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Old 02-02-2009, 10:35 AM   #145
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Florida is like France, you just don't drink the water, you drink booze instead. They put so much crap in this water, chlorine, flouride, etc,etc,etc. It is absurd.
the water is great all that stuff adds flavor to it
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:00 AM   #146
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That's just it, it' extremely quick for 1.5L (assuming manual tranny). Also, the xA isn't a Yaris, even if the engine is similar, at the wheels it's a different story.
so what's the difference then, same engine, same transmission, same axles... how is it "a different story" ?
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Old 02-02-2009, 06:05 PM   #147
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A larger percentage of the components of the Corolla is made in the USA excluding the main drivetrain. The alternator for example is made for Denso in USA. I test drove a corolla and its design and interior pieces felt boring and quite cheap. The seats felt really cheap and the engine noise was worse than the Yaris. There must be a higher profit margin on the corolla, as there are higher rebates for them (they wouldn't be giving rebates to do you a favor and they are STILL making a profit!).
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:00 PM   #148
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A larger percentage of the components of the Corolla is made in the USA excluding the main drivetrain. The alternator for example is made for Denso in USA. I test drove a corolla and its design and interior pieces felt boring and quite cheap. The seats felt really cheap and the engine noise was worse than the Yaris. There must be a higher profit margin on the corolla, as there are higher rebates for them (they wouldn't be giving rebates to do you a favor and they are STILL making a profit!).
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:28 PM   #149
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so what's the difference then, same engine, same transmission, same axles... how is it "a different story" ?
Power steering system is different.
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:38 PM   #150
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Power steering system is different.
wow so THAT'S gonna make power numbers SO different lol
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:53 PM   #151
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so what's the difference then, same engine, same transmission, same axles... how is it "a different story" ?
LBS/KG

corolla = 2822 curb
yaris = 2340 curb

nearly 500 lbs difference between the two
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:59 PM   #152
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corolla = 2822 curb
yaris = 2340 curb

nearly 500 lbs difference between the two

that wasn't the argument buddy
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:01 PM   #153
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that wasn't the argument buddy
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That's just it, it' extremely quick for 1.5L (assuming manual tranny). Also, the xA isn't a Yaris, even if the engine is similar, at the wheels it's a different story.
at the wheels its a different story because the car is lighter
power to weight ratio.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:15 PM   #154
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wow so THAT'S gonna make power numbers SO different lol
Who said it makes the power SO different, lol.
You just asked what the difference is, so I just mentioned it.

xA takes the power from the engine horse power.
Yaris takes the power from the electricity.
xA ends up having a little less horse power at the wheel and a little less fuel economy.
I'm guess the difference would be something like if the driver goes on diet and loses 50 lbs of weight, lol.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:15 PM   #155
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That's just it, it' extremely quick for 1.5L (assuming manual tranny). Also, the xA isn't a Yaris, even if the engine is similar, at the wheels it's a different story.
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sure it was assclown



at the wheels its a different story because the car is lighter
power to weight ratio.
read it again, pay attention lol, we were discussing xA vs yaris, not Corolla vs yaris
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:19 PM   #156
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Who said it makes the power SO different, lol.
You just asked what the difference is, so I just mentioned it.

xA takes the power from the engine horse power.
Yaris takes the power from the electricity.
xA ends up having a little less horse power at the wheel and a little less fuel economy.
I'm guess the difference would be something like if the driver goes on diet and loses 50 lbs of weight, lol.

ok buddy so answer me this

1.where does the electricity come from for your power steering on the yaris? thin air? no... it comes from the battery, and the battery is charged by the alternator. power is power lol

2. if you're "driving in a straight line" how much power is being consumed, electric to hydraulic?
3. did you ever consider gear ratios could be the reason the yaris gets better economy?
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ok my apologies. =P
I thought he was comparing it to the corolla, now that i read it again as you pointed out, I actually stand on your side... >,< *crowns himself an assclown*
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:37 PM   #158
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ok my apologies. =P
I thought he was comparing it to the corolla, now that i read it again as you pointed out, I actually stand on your side... >,< *crowns himself an assclown*
it's all good, figured u'd missed the tiny xA part
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:42 PM   #159
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ok buddy so answer me this

1.where does the electricity come from for your power steering on the yaris? thin air? no... it comes from the battery, and the battery is charged by the alternator. power is power lol

2. if you're "driving in a straight line" how much power is being consumed, electric to hydraulic?
3. did you ever consider gear ratios could be the reason the yaris gets better economy?
1) Battery can be charged even when you're idling. Charged energy can then be used to steer. Without using battery, you need to get all power from the engine power at the time of steer. Power is power, but power can be saved instead of wasted.

2) It's true. This concept doesn't do any good for straight line.

3) Yes, gear ratio can make A LOT more difference that steering system. I just mentioned steering system because it just came to my mind at that time. There are so many things that can make difference and steering system was one thing, which probably is one of the smallest :(
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:11 PM   #160
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...3) Yes, gear ratio can make A LOT more difference that steering system. I just mentioned steering system because it just came to my mind at that time. There are so many things that can make difference and steering system was one thing, which probably is one of the smallest :(
umm you do realize he was referring to the transmission, right?
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Old 02-03-2009, 02:13 AM   #161
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umm you do realize he was referring to the transmission, right?
I can't think of anything else in the car that has a gear ratio other than transmission...
Is there anything else?

All I wanted to do was just to add one more difference between Yaris and xA since Tamago was listing down the differences and power steering system wasn't there.

If the gear ratio is different, then that's just another difference.
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I can't think of anything else in the car that has a gear ratio other than transmission...
Is there anything else?

All I wanted to do was just to add one more difference between Yaris and xA since Tamago was listing down the differences and power steering system wasn't there.

If the gear ratio is different, then that's just another difference.
my gears are shorter, which means my car = faster off the line ;)

oh and your other gear ratio is your rack and pinion ratio.
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