Window Tint Ticket

[RABYARIS]

Before the Government takes away our rights in terms of our private property they should have to prove their claims of safety issues with window tint. For example, what % of window tint drivers shoot other people through their tinted windows? I have never heard of a case. Or how about a study that shows how increasing your window tint reduces your visibility by "X" amount.

We are now to the point where citizens give up their rights without statistical or scientific proof of the necessity of the law. Our Constitution was set up to protect the rights of the individual citizen not the rights of an over reaching government.

"You can put all the tint you want on your house windows as it is on private property. However, when you are in a vehicle on public roads it is everone busines how dark the tint is!" - I can hear the new law now..."Your house faces a public road therefore the police have the right to see into your home in case you shoot at them through your window".

"I'm a firm believer in keeping the goverment out of our lives but, when on a public road, it become my businees what you may or may not be doing in your car!" Absolutely false..."may or may not" gives you no right what so ever to interfere with my rights to privacy. That is 1946 Joseph Stalin speak.

"I think a lot of people forget the fact that driving is a privilege. It is not a RIGHT. I'm sure when you sign up to get your DL you're signing that you'll abide by THEIR LAW and if you don't, you may get fined. Period." With this logic then voting can become a privilege, citizenship and then breathing.

The Government is not our parent. It is supposed to serve us not vice versa. It is supposed to be restrained from unnecessarily interfering with our lives.

I am sorry for the rant and I do not wish to offend or insult anyone but Thomas Jefferson once said, "Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift from God?"

[Mead]

Originally Posted by RABYARIS

Before the Government takes away our rights in terms of our private property they should have to prove their claims of safety issues with window tint. For example, what % of window tint drivers shoot other people through their tinted windows? I have never heard of a case. Or how about a study that shows how increasing your window tint reduces your visibility by "X" amount.

We are now to the point where citizens give up their rights without statistical or scientific proof of the necessity of the law. Our Constitution was set up to protect the rights of the individual citizen not the rights of an over reaching government.

"You can put all the tint you want on your house windows as it is on private property. However, when you are in a vehicle on public roads it is everone busines how dark the tint is!" - I can hear the new law now..."Your house faces a public road therefore the police have the right to see into your home in case you shoot at them through your window".

"I'm a firm believer in keeping the goverment out of our lives but, when on a public road, it become my businees what you may or may not be doing in your car!" Absolutely false..."may or may not" gives you no right what so ever to interfere with my rights to privacy. That is 1946 Joseph Stalin speak.

"I think a lot of people forget the fact that driving is a privilege. It is not a RIGHT. I'm sure when you sign up to get your DL you're signing that you'll abide by THEIR LAW and if you don't, you may get fined. Period." With this logic then voting can become a privilege, citizenship and then breathing.

The Government is not our parent. It is supposed to serve us not vice versa. It is supposed to be restrained from unnecessarily interfering with our lives.

I am sorry for the rant and I do not wish to offend or insult anyone but Thomas Jefferson once said, "Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift from God?"

Hey we know you're pissed about the government, but there is some level of safety involved with driving and the rules to protect the public. The rules are dumbed down to meet the skill level of all drivers. Based on your world, we can tint the windshield and ban all speed limits right? you want ulitmate freedom? where do you draw the line and keep in mind you're sharing the road with 90 yo grannys, illegals, deaf people, drunks, the list goes on and on. The public is not all perfect like you and the world is not the same when Thomas Jefferson was alive

[SAV912]

^ Wat.

I've drunkenly stumbled into The Situation Room.

-C

[why?]

Originally Posted by SAV912

^ Wat.

I've drunkenly stumbled into The Situation Room.

-C

eww a georgia bulldogs fan...

[SAV912]

Originally Posted by why?

eww a georgia bulldogs fan...

Damn right. Sic 'em.

You are? I can handle Florida, Auburn or even Georgia Tech. But we are gonna brawl if you bring up the Crimson Tide...

-C

[why?]

Originally Posted by SAV912

Damn right. Sic 'em.

You are? I can handle Florida, Auburn or even Georgia Tech. But we are gonna brawl if you bring up the Crimson Tide...

-C

lols. What about Boise? made y'all look pathetic. I'll always be a gator fan at heart, bu I love what Steve Spurrier is doing with the Gamecocks. Means there is two games I look forward to every saturday.

[SAV912]

Originally Posted by why?

lols. What about Boise? made y'all look pathetic. I'll always be a gator fan at heart, bu I love what Steve Spurrier is doing with the Gamecocks. Means there is two games I look forward to every saturday.

Boise did make us look bad. I was there at that game. It was DEAFENING in the first quarter when Boykin ran that 82 yard end-around. And then Kellen Moore did what he does best: make a secondary look outright silly.

Thankfully, the 0-2 start still ended with SEC-E champion rings, and a rare win over your Gators.

Spurrier is doing awesome things at USC. If Lattimore returns healthy this coming season, they will be scary good on offense. Just hope the D can replace all those departing linebackers.

-C

OP: Sorry for off topic, but football is better than politics.

[JumpmanYaris]

Originally Posted by SAV912

Damn right. Sic 'em.

You are? I can handle Florida, Auburn or even Georgia Tech. But we are gonna brawl if you bring up the Crimson Tide...

-C

UK ALL THE WAY BITCHES LOL

[SAV912]

Originally Posted by JumpmanYaris

UK ALL THE WAY BITCHES LOL

So did you enjoy that first win over the Vols in 25 years?

-C

[Mead]

In California, you can tint the front with Doctor's permission or be an A-List Celebrity.

[bentjazz]

I live in Northern Kentucky, and my windows are tinted. Never been hassled, but I'd be a little anxious if I took a long road trip.....
As for police officers, and I don't mean to offend anyone, but I've known more than a few. There are good cops, but there are a hell of a lot of asshole cops out there who combine their egos with that gun and a badge mentality. Not a fan....

[RedRide]

It speaks volumes that the ones who cry the loudests about losing "rights" are the exact same ones who want to shove a probe up a woman's privates when no doctor says it is warrented or nessary.

The "we are loosing rights" crowd has lost all credibility long ago.
Even Ron Paul is a study in hypocrisy.

BTW, the loosing "rights" crowd also fails to realize that even the founding fathers recognized that certain things shoudd be illegal and some things should be limited by the federal government and...... the wild west that they long for had much more gun control laws than they are aware of.
Example......... it was a law in most every town that guns were not allowed in any salloon for obvious reasons. This is why small, "hidden" weapons were developed back then. Also many towns had laws that guns were not allowed in churches, etc. So, even then there was much gun control, paticularly considering that there were only a few types of guns available back then, unlike today.

Their view of the wild west where guns ruled is from historically inaccurate Hollywood movies, etc.
They worship a time that never was and never will be!

Everyone who signed the consitution did not agree with all the provisions and wording but, they all reluctantly signed it anyway. They all compromised for the good of the (new) country! If they could see us now......!

Anyway, this "losing rights" argument has no place in this discussion about tints except that we have a right to know what you are doing in your car on public roads.

About cops.......
Yes, there are good and bad cops just like in every other profession.
However, we all can agree that cops are absolutely nessary.
Now, how can we fault either a good or bad cop when they point out that you have knowingly, purposely violated a law whith the full knowledge that they do not make the laws and are only sworn to enforce them?

Would you pound your hand with a hammer and then, expect it not to hurt?
Let's grow up a bit here people.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I agree, crazy dark tints up front shouldn't be legal, but I think darker than 70% tint should be legal in Cali. I mean, the thought about banning selling black cars since it makes people use the AC more? Wtf, (good quality) tint helps keep the interior of a car cool.

I agree that cops are necessary, but little things like not that dark of a tint isn't that big of a deal. They let people who drive 75 mph slide, which I think poses more danger to people than not that dark of tints. Also, again, speaking from experience, I don't think cops should talk down on citizens like how BOTH of them did to me.

[RedRide]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I agree, crazy dark tints up front shouldn't be legal, but I think darker than 70% tint should be legal in Cali. I mean, the thought about banning selling black cars since it makes people use the AC more? Wtf, (good quality) tint helps keep the interior of a car cool.

I agree that cops are necessary, but little things like not that dark of a tint isn't that big of a deal. They let people who drive 75 mph slide, which I think poses more danger to people than not that dark of tints. Also, again, speaking from experience, I don't think cops should talk down on citizens like how BOTH of them did to me.

Cops generally ignore speeders when they are going with the flow of traffic However, if you are the lone speeder, you will get pulled over.


The same goes for tints.
It you were to wear a mask in a public place you will draw the attention of the police every time. If your car has a very dark mask (dark tint) on a public road, it will also draw the attention of the police..
It's simple human nature and logic!
People who wear masks generally have something to hide.

Besides, the darker the tint, the less visability you have and this is why there are legal limits.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by RedRide

Besides, the darker the tint, the less visability you have and this is why there are legal limits.

yep in a perfect world we could tint the windshield but in LA I share the road with serial killers, child molesters and ... seeing who's next to me is kinda important

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by RedRide

Cops generally ignore speeders when they are going with the flow of traffic However, if you are the lone speeder, you will get pulled over.


The same goes for tints.
It you were to wear a mask in a public place you will draw the attention of the police every time. If your car has a very dark mask (dark tint) on a public road, it will also draw the attention of the police..
It's simple human nature and logic!
People who wear masks generally have something to hide.

Besides, the darker the tint, the less visability you have and this is why there are legal limits.

Odd since most cars I see while driving on the freeway had darker tints that I did at the time, I guess they singled me out because I was driving slower than the speed limit! Facking bullshiznits.

I also understand the legal limits, but come on, it gets to be over 100 degrees out here in Cali. 70% just isn't going to cut it.

[47_MasoN_47]

I want tint, but don't want the hassle from it. I could probably get doctor permission or whatever since I have a pretty rough case of Excema, but it's just not worth getting pulled over for.

[Altitude]

Way back in 1984 I got a ticket for window tint. That was the first and last time. I still like tint on the windows, but I keep the fronts clean to avoid the hassle. Problem solved.