ZPI....I Have question's - Toyota Yaris Forums

punch · 06-29-2007, 07:32 AM

few questions for ZPI folks...

1. On an automatic, you said in the past it would be de-tuned for a lower HP, to save the tranny, so what HP rating are we talking about?

2. Whats the turn-around time ( ordered-built-shipped) on a turbo kit for an automatic vs. stick yaris.

3. what other aftermarket stuff is required for an automatic yaris?

4. whats this about a CEL after the turbo install???

5. since the turbo kit is a lower HP rating, is a intercooler really needed?

6. rumours about speakerman breaking his car after turbo install?????

thanks

cali yaris · 06-29-2007, 03:08 PM

I will PM you with my Z _ _ experience in general, don't want to waste public forum space.

YarisGuy · 06-29-2007, 06:09 PM

This is a public forum and information is to be shared. It is not a place to share good experiences and sweep the bad under the rug!

I've done some reading on other forums recently. Threads like this one pop up at least once every couple months. Enjoy the five pages of goodness:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/view...r=asc&&start=0

cali yaris · 06-29-2007, 09:52 PM

ok, fine. I just don't want to be labeled a hater because I "bash" that company. I honestly think they have serious issues that any potential customer should consider before they buy.

Here is my PM, duly copied:

I've been tuning cars for a while now, have a Scion tC pushing 443 whp and 474 torque. When I was doing my motor build, ZPI single-handedly cost me nearly 10 weeks in delays because of broken promises and lack of communication.

ZPI has caused me nothing but grief, both in product development and in the absolute lack of customer support. As recently as last month, I couldn't get a straight answer on when they would ship me a crank pulley for the Yaris.

I think for simple parts they are probably fine, but for large projects like a turbo install, something is guaranteed to require their assistance -- and you may or may not get it. So there is a first-hand story for you.

PetersRedYaris · 06-30-2007, 12:51 AM

I'm also am curious as to the answer to question number 6...

*Chris07LB* · 06-30-2007, 08:58 AM

Dont expect an answer... or a reply.... or a....

joey1320 · 06-30-2007, 09:56 AM

well can spkrman post an answer then???

*Chris07LB* · 06-30-2007, 10:24 AM

That hack was banned weeks ago..

punch · 06-30-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey1320

well can spkrman post an answer then???

spkrman got banned as he was ripping off people for there money....

punch · 06-30-2007, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris07LB

Dont expect an answer... or a reply.... or a....

and they expect us to buy from them, yet can't answer a simple post???

*Chris07LB* · 06-30-2007, 01:37 PM

Looks like you get the point now. I know it sucks, but mostly ALL the vendors here are just here to "bump" their product posts, and every now and then stop in just to post up something else.

I guess thats fine, but every other forum I belong to, the vendors are a part of the family, and post and share other info, besides what "deals" they have extended this week.

joey1320 · 06-30-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punch

spkrman got banned as he was ripping off people for there money....

oh wow didn't know that.
hopefully zpi can chime in soon.

*Chris07LB* · 06-30-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey1320

hopefully zpi can chime in soon.

Looks like you need to read the replys in this post a little closer.

If you have a question for ZPI, a phone call is whats going to get your answers.

joey1320 · 06-30-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris07LB

Looks like you need to read the replys in this post a little closer.

If you have a question for ZPI, a phone call is whats going to get your answers.

oh i don't give a crap about the thread, i contacted zpi about other things via pm. it just sucks that their reputation continues to decline and they are doing nothing about it

turboyaris · 07-02-2007, 05:18 AM

well.... I dont have any affliation to ZPI aside from being friends with the guys, but here is the answer to your questions to the best of my knowledge.

1. in the 160-170 whp range
2. the kits should be built (last I talked with kenny) the main difference is the tune on the ecu as for between stick and auto
3. they offer an upgraded valve body for smoother crisper shifting with the increase in power. I would also upgrade the tranny cooler. Other then that, just gauges and obviously exhaust.
4. as described before, the CEL is caused by the removal of the front O2 sensor, no matter what turbo kit you ever buy, it looks like this may remain a problem for us (unless someone comes up with a bypass for the CEL) the reason is that the front O2 sensor is what causes the learning in our ECUs so therefore if you were to keep it, the increased EGTs would throw the computer off the deepend severly messing with your tune.
5. you will still need the intercooler as the boost level is the same. I believe (in my previous experience with different cars) that the lower power levels is actually caused by 2 things gear ratio (4 gears as opposed to 5 in a manual) and also the cams found in an auto are more conservative to allow for a smoother shift through a stock setup.
6. dunno anything about speakerman, but personally anyone that buys a turbo simply for show deserves to have their car blow up... and 20s on a yaris... I mean come on

*Chris07LB* · 07-02-2007, 07:27 AM

LMAO at #6!

You forgot UGLY ASS 20's..

06-29-2007, 07:32 AM	#1
punch Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan "D" package Join Date: May 2006 Location: Barrie, ontario Posts: 852	ZPI....I Have question's few questions for ZPI folks... 1. On an automatic, you said in the past it would be de-tuned for a lower HP, to save the tranny, so what HP rating are we talking about? 2. Whats the turn-around time ( ordered-built-shipped) on a turbo kit for an automatic vs. stick yaris. 3. what other aftermarket stuff is required for an automatic yaris? 4. whats this about a CEL after the turbo install??? 5. since the turbo kit is a lower HP rating, is a intercooler really needed? 6. rumours about speakerman breaking his car after turbo install????? thanks

06-29-2007, 03:08 PM	#2
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I will PM you with my Z _ _ experience in general, don't want to waste public forum space. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

06-29-2007, 06:09 PM	#3
YarisGuy Drives: 2006 Yaris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 203	This is a public forum and information is to be shared. It is not a place to share good experiences and sweep the bad under the rug! I've done some reading on other forums recently. Threads like this one pop up at least once every couple months. Enjoy the five pages of goodness: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/view...r=asc&&start=0 __________________ It's a red yaris

06-29-2007, 09:52 PM	#4
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	ok, fine. I just don't want to be labeled a hater because I "bash" that company. I honestly think they have serious issues that any potential customer should consider before they buy. Here is my PM, duly copied: I've been tuning cars for a while now, have a Scion tC pushing 443 whp and 474 torque. When I was doing my motor build, ZPI single-handedly cost me nearly 10 weeks in delays because of broken promises and lack of communication. ZPI has caused me nothing but grief, both in product development and in the absolute lack of customer support. As recently as last month, I couldn't get a straight answer on when they would ship me a crank pulley for the Yaris. I think for simple parts they are probably fine, but for large projects like a turbo install, something is guaranteed to require their assistance -- and you may or may not get it. So there is a first-hand story for you. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

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06-30-2007, 12:51 AM	#5
PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	I'm also am curious as to the answer to question number 6...

06-30-2007, 08:58 AM	#6
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	Dont expect an answer... or a reply.... or a....

06-30-2007, 09:56 AM	#7
joey1320 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lakewood, Ohio Posts: 538	well can spkrman post an answer then???

06-30-2007, 10:24 AM	#8
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	That hack was banned weeks ago..

06-30-2007, 01:37 PM	#11
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	Looks like you get the point now. I know it sucks, but mostly ALL the vendors here are just here to "bump" their product posts, and every now and then stop in just to post up something else. I guess thats fine, but every other forum I belong to, the vendors are a part of the family, and post and share other info, besides what "deals" they have extended this week.

07-02-2007, 05:18 AM	#15
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	well.... I dont have any affliation to ZPI aside from being friends with the guys, but here is the answer to your questions to the best of my knowledge. 1. in the 160-170 whp range 2. the kits should be built (last I talked with kenny) the main difference is the tune on the ecu as for between stick and auto 3. they offer an upgraded valve body for smoother crisper shifting with the increase in power. I would also upgrade the tranny cooler. Other then that, just gauges and obviously exhaust. 4. as described before, the CEL is caused by the removal of the front O2 sensor, no matter what turbo kit you ever buy, it looks like this may remain a problem for us (unless someone comes up with a bypass for the CEL) the reason is that the front O2 sensor is what causes the learning in our ECUs so therefore if you were to keep it, the increased EGTs would throw the computer off the deepend severly messing with your tune. 5. you will still need the intercooler as the boost level is the same. I believe (in my previous experience with different cars) that the lower power levels is actually caused by 2 things gear ratio (4 gears as opposed to 5 in a manual) and also the cams found in an auto are more conservative to allow for a smoother shift through a stock setup. 6. dunno anything about speakerman, but personally anyone that buys a turbo simply for show deserves to have their car blow up... and 20s on a yaris... I mean come on

07-02-2007, 07:27 AM	#16
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	LMAO at #6! You forgot UGLY ASS 20's..

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