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Old 05-07-2009, 07:42 PM   #1
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52.60 mpg

Well, I've been averaging 39-40 mpg, but today, I was able to get a trip average of 52.60 mpg. This included city and freeway driving. Brian (Bailout) was kind enough to teach me some tricks while letting me use his SGII in my car. He taught me how to properly use FAS, DFCO, P&G, hangtime, and drafting (if there were anymore, add them on, Brian). It really does make a difference on how one drives. I thought I was doing a decent job at conserving gas, but man, was I wrong.

Also, Brian demonstrated that I CAN drive on the freeway with my windows partially down (fully down if I wanted to) if I'm driving 55 mph, and not have it affect my FE. He also demonstrated how the A/C impacts FE instantaneously, knocking off anywhere between 5-10 mpg.

I think the two biggest factors that contributed to my 52 mpg was hangtime and proper FAS. Anticipating the lights and cars ahead can make you see how FAS will be more beneficial than DFCO. As for hangtime, it truly is crazy how taking your foot off the throttle by a mm or so can make you gain so much. I'm going to try to keep doing this despite not having a SGII.

I didn't think I would have done so well, especially for a day's (really an hour or so) worth of learning and trying. It goes to show that anyone can get high 40's, if not 50's mpg, even us tuner folks. Thanks again Brian for teaching me how to get better FE.
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:33 PM   #2
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That's awesome :) and congratz. I'm slowly creeping up into the 40's with my mpg by just changing little things. I'm not the first person to say it but I've come to believe that the biggest change you can make to get better mpg is to adjust the nut behind the wheel.

Keep up the good work and hope you keep getting those 50's.

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Old 05-07-2009, 09:44 PM   #3
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Nice work.

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Old 05-07-2009, 09:48 PM   #4
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Is 52.6 what the SGII is telling you, or is it based on refilling your tank and actually calculating fuel consumption?
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:29 PM   #5
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I've come to believe that the biggest change you can make to get better mpg is to adjust the nut behind the wheel.

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I don't know if I have a "nut" behind my wheel. But after looking closer, I noticed that I do have a screw loose! LOL.
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Old 05-08-2009, 05:16 AM   #6
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:36 AM   #7
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I'm glad you had a good time, Lazandro (Kaotic), and you were a fast learner. Keep practicing both the techniques and anticipatory driving/situational awareness, calm down (e.g. stop that throttle bobble when shifting at low RPM! ), and I'm sure you'll punch out a 50+ tank before the end of the Summer.

A funny story from yesterday: I took Lazandro out for a short drive to show him my driving style and as we returned to a large and busy parking lot (the ARCO Plaza in Sacramento) I coasted with my engine off for the last few hundred meters, as is my custom. His jaw was dropped the whole time and as we rolled into a parking place after making a few turns he let out a little gasp of surprise and satisfaction.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:09 AM   #8
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Addendum: Before anyone freaks out on the "drafting" it was a 2-2.5 second follow behind a semi truck northbound on the I-5 at 53-54 MPH in light traffic. That is a larger gap than most folks would give any other vehicle in heavy traffic conditions. This kind of situation is uncommon as trucks rarely move that slowly but when I can find one I take advantage of it.
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Addendum: Before anyone freaks out on the "drafting" it was a 2-2.5 second follow behind a semi truck northbound on the I-5 at 53-54 MPH in light traffic. That is a larger gap than most folks would give any other vehicle in heavy traffic conditions. This kind of situation is uncommon as trucks rarely move that slowly but when I can find one I take advantage of it.
My only fear drafting large trucks is they seem to always kick up small rocks and debri. Last time i did that i ended up with a rock chip in the center of my windshield.
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:46 PM   #10
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What is Hangtime? How does it work?
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:28 PM   #11
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There's a sticky for it here in the FE forum:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9422
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:15 PM   #12
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Wow, when can i get some lessons Brian? I would like to learn too, I just coast and do ahngtime around the 60mph mark. Usually on 280S, a bit past Serramonte the road goes down...so i usually speed up a bit and coast all the way to the merging point towards SFO airport. I'm afraid to try DFCO and Pulse and Glide. But i may be doing P&B already?

My average when i filled up today was 46.8 mpg...trying to get 50 or higher :(
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There's a sticky for it here in the FE forum:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9422
Thanks for the reply. This Hangtime thing seems interesting... I'll have to try it!
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:37 AM   #14
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Wow, I'm happy I'm consistently getting 32mpg.
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Old 05-09-2009, 04:02 PM   #15
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nice going on the lessons with Brian

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Well, I've been averaging 39-40 mpg, but today, I was able to get a trip average of 52.60 mpg. This included city and freeway driving. Brian (Bailout) was kind enough to teach me some tricks while letting me use his SGII in my car. He taught me how to properly use FAS, DFCO, P&G, hangtime, and drafting (if there were anymore, add them on, Brian). It really does make a difference on how one drives. I thought I was doing a decent job at conserving gas, but man, was I wrong.

Nice going with the 52.6 MPG using the Scanguage. Are you now going to purchase one? IMO they do make a big difference in your driving. My last tank of gas was 52.7 MPG. I love the warmer weather!
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:23 PM   #16
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Kaotic, I hope you don't mind, but I didn't wanna start my own thread.
I just hit a 72.25MPG tank driving 75%hwy/25%city. I have no scan-gauge, just soem advice taken from this site and gassavers.
Some prick in a truck was even yelling and swearing at me saying why do i drive so slow, and was tailgaiting me. I got frustrated, and floored it. We had words at the traffic light. I just can't keep my cool sometimes.
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:27 PM   #17
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I just hit a 72.25MPG tank driving 75%hwy/25%city.
Ummm, in a yaris? US gallons??

I'd think with some people here willing to sacrifice their entire car for an extra mpg, I would have seen someone get that high before. I've never seen a tank in the 60s even.

Did you find an 800 mile long hill?? Or a hill that you coast down and take an elevator to the top of?
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:01 PM   #18
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Did you find an 800 mile long hill?? Or a hill that you coast down and take an elevator to the top of?
No, they actually have Yaris lift tickets available over at www....

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