DEBATE: Analog vs Digital - Class D vs Old School Amps - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

_S7V7N_ · 05-21-2012, 02:47 PM

Lol that's from a totally diff thread.

RedRide · 05-21-2012, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _S7V7N_

Lol that's from a totally diff thread.

Exactly. You were the one to drag it into this one.
I guess some here hate "popcorn" .

_S7V7N_ · 05-21-2012, 03:51 PM

I guess some here lack the ability to stay on the thread topic. It's okay a few Adderall should fix you right up.

RedRide · 05-21-2012, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _S7V7N_

I guess some here lack the ability to stay on the thread topic. It's okay a few Adderall should fix you right up.

A fool never knows when to quit.

_S7V7N_ · 05-21-2012, 04:44 PM

Takes one to know one ?

RedRide · 05-21-2012, 06:19 PM

....and the show continues.

"Takes one to know one"?
I did not know that they had computer labs in kindergarten.

_S7V7N_ · 05-21-2012, 06:27 PM

Guess Neanderthals have evolved ?

Glad I can give you meaning to life for a few hours.

Just for you Red Ride ! Ever been slapped like that ?

sqcomp · 05-21-2012, 08:06 PM

RR...

He wasn't talking about me. Do we have a home audio section on this site? It seems that's where you draw your experience from...not 12 Volt audio.

...it'd be mean though for me to mess with you in there too...

S7V7N...

That post made me laugh. I'm sitting here waiting for my Kevlar kicks to cure and that just made my afternoon!

_S7V7N_ · 05-21-2012, 08:59 PM

Sometimes these youngsters need some Act Right !

sqcomp · 05-22-2012, 12:35 AM

I'm about to break out the Ensure and Metamucil...

RedRide · 05-22-2012, 01:43 PM

I just stated established facts and I have no interest or need to engage in a pissing match with those who have a need to always get in the last word that does not even pertain to a topic at hand.
I outgrew that juvenile trait many decades ago when I matured.

So, you guys can have the last words (I know how badly you neeed it) as I/we enjoy the show.

sqcomp · 05-22-2012, 02:08 PM

He he...established facts eh? That good analog source material is better than compressed digital music sources? Sure. That is in most cases fact.

But the issue you have not addressed is, how do YOU intend to apply that to CAR AUDIO. You cannot realistically put a record player in your car, what's there to do? Take your entire line and move it to a home audio section.

Stick to AudioKarma or DIYaudio sites. You have nothing to add to mobile electronics. This includes amplifiers that someone else referenced (C-64) that you aren't apparently using or have used in your car audio setup. Look at the thread title and the section subject we're in. It's a car audio section in a thread that is obviously meant for car audio. All car audio playback, unless it's a dedicated show car, sounds fake. Did I get it right? I'll reiterate....placebo effect. You have made up your mind that car audio systems sound fabricated. Okay...stop trolling around the car audio section then. No matter what is done, accomplished, or mentioned, there's no changing your perspective. So why stick around? You can't make good sound come from your car, you don't want to hear what I'm offering or anyone else on this board from our experience...so why are you here again?

Did you notice that? Take a look again just to make sure.

Now, let's talk about your experience with CAR AUDIO amplifiers and what you're currently running in your Yaris. Then let's relate that to your past statements about "old school" amplifiers vs new class D amplifiers.

RedRide · 05-22-2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

But the issue you have not addressed is, how do YOU intend to apply that to CAR AUDIO. You cannot realistically put a record player in your car, what's there to do? Take your entire line and move it to a home audio section.....

I never said or even remotly alluded to that or anything even anything remotely simular You are grasping at straws and resorting to blatently making things up to win an argument with yourself .
I never even remotly suggested that anyone use anilog sources in any vehicle!
You are simply and purposely taking a couple of comments and truths out of contex.

I rest my case!

Do you not realize that your desperate rants are offered for the whole world to see?

I would suggest that you subscribe to you own signature!!

_S7V7N_ · 05-22-2012, 03:45 PM

I'm going to get RR hooked on phonics and some spelling lessons ! This guy couldn't type a coherent paragraph if his life depended on it.

Remotly ? Simular ? Anilog ?

Are you trying to be funny or just that illiterate ? Uneducated ? Or ignorant ?

sqcomp · 05-22-2012, 04:18 PM

Yup...I'm the one grasping.

I'm also the one with real world perspective in the car audio realm. You sir are impotent. Prove me wrong. Bring a car audio system to a regional championship with your tube amps and prove me wrong. You're in NY correct? Make the trip down to SBN/INAC and prove that your old school system will be everything you're blabbing about.

Guess what? You won't back up your hype. You'll sit there like every other keyboard commando and try to justify your existence in the car audio realm.

I'd be happy to meet you in Daytona Beach. I'll bring an all D class amplified vehicle that isn't a show car and have my fun with you. Here's a hint...use the tube driven Panasonic TX-5500 source and some Butler tube amps. It's a start.

Can't say I didn't give you any good advice.

why? · 05-23-2012, 06:24 PM

rr is a troll in the classic sense. Almost every single post of his on Yarisworld is a trolling post.

I did not realize people still thought Class D amps were inferior. I remember reading about Richard Clark and his experiment. An entire room and a full setup with everything to prove people wrong.

That makes Scott's scores even more amazing.

sqcomp · 05-23-2012, 08:56 PM

^I still hold out hope for RR. I have to have faith the we're just on opposite sides of the same coin.

Scott was going up against Arc Audio's best. Fred Lynch's Arc SE amps are very nice. It comes down to dynamic power and how we perceive "better". Those JL/HD amps are basically 750 Watts per driver. The best I've got is 450 Watts (@ 12 Volts unregulated) from my DD S2b amps. Bummer! :)

I was demoing the G35 for the entire day on Sunday at SBN. I cannot remember how many people I went through tracks with in that car. I'm thinking that he'll prolly have it at CES this next year unless he pulls something out of his sleeve, which could happen.

Oh! Nice fun project. My wife is going to nursing school soon for 15 months in DC. This means I'll be turning the living room into a listening room! I've got the TL MTM speaker enclosures off some vintage solid state equipment. Sorry to say it isn't tube driven...I don't have a record player either. I ONLY have a blu ray and an SACD player. Damn I'm uncultured! :P

RedRide · 05-24-2012, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why?

rr is a troll in the classic sense. Almost every single post of his on Yarisworld is a trolling post.

I did not realize people still thought Class D amps were inferior. I remember reading about Richard Clark and his experiment. An entire room and a full setup with everything to prove people wrong.

That makes Scott's scores even more amazing.

Spoken like a true troll!

05-21-2012, 02:47 PM	#37
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Lol that's from a totally diff thread. __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

05-21-2012, 03:51 PM	#39
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	I guess some here lack the ability to stay on the thread topic. It's okay a few Adderall should fix you right up. __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

05-21-2012, 04:44 PM	#41
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Takes one to know one ? __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

05-21-2012, 06:27 PM	#43
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Guess Neanderthals have evolved ? Glad I can give you meaning to life for a few hours. Just for you Red Ride ! Ever been slapped like that ? __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3 Last edited by _S7V7N_; 05-21-2012 at 07:25 PM.

05-21-2012, 08:06 PM	#44
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	RR... He wasn't talking about me. Do we have a home audio section on this site? It seems that's where you draw your experience from...not 12 Volt audio. ...it'd be mean though for me to mess with you in there too... S7V7N... That post made me laugh. I'm sitting here waiting for my Kevlar kicks to cure and that just made my afternoon! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 05-21-2012 at 08:22 PM.

05-21-2012, 06:19 PM	#42
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,501	....and the show continues. "Takes one to know one"? I did not know that they had computer labs in kindergarten.

05-21-2012, 08:59 PM	#45
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Sometimes these youngsters need some Act Right ! __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

05-22-2012, 12:35 AM	#46
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I'm about to break out the Ensure and Metamucil... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-22-2012, 01:43 PM	#47
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,501	I just stated established facts and I have no interest or need to engage in a pissing match with those who have a need to always get in the last word that does not even pertain to a topic at hand. I outgrew that juvenile trait many decades ago when I matured. So, you guys can have the last words (I know how badly you neeed it) as I/we enjoy the show.

05-22-2012, 02:08 PM	#48
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	He he...established facts eh? That good analog source material is better than compressed digital music sources? Sure. That is in most cases fact. But the issue you have not addressed is, how do YOU intend to apply that to CAR AUDIO. You cannot realistically put a record player in your car, what's there to do? Take your entire line and move it to a home audio section. Stick to AudioKarma or DIYaudio sites. You have nothing to add to mobile electronics. This includes amplifiers that someone else referenced (C-64) that you aren't apparently using or have used in your car audio setup. Look at the thread title and the section subject we're in. It's a car audio section in a thread that is obviously meant for car audio. All car audio playback, unless it's a dedicated show car, sounds fake. Did I get it right? I'll reiterate....placebo effect. You have made up your mind that car audio systems sound fabricated. Okay...stop trolling around the car audio section then. No matter what is done, accomplished, or mentioned, there's no changing your perspective. So why stick around? You can't make good sound come from your car, you don't want to hear what I'm offering or anyone else on this board from our experience...so why are you here again? Did you notice that? Take a look again just to make sure. Now, let's talk about your experience with CAR AUDIO amplifiers and what you're currently running in your Yaris. Then let's relate that to your past statements about "old school" amplifiers vs new class D amplifiers. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 05-22-2012 at 02:33 PM.

05-22-2012, 03:45 PM	#50
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	I'm going to get RR hooked on phonics and some spelling lessons ! This guy couldn't type a coherent paragraph if his life depended on it. Remotly ? Simular ? Anilog ? Are you trying to be funny or just that illiterate ? Uneducated ? Or ignorant ? __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

05-22-2012, 04:18 PM	#51
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Yup...I'm the one grasping. I'm also the one with real world perspective in the car audio realm. You sir are impotent. Prove me wrong. Bring a car audio system to a regional championship with your tube amps and prove me wrong. You're in NY correct? Make the trip down to SBN/INAC and prove that your old school system will be everything you're blabbing about. Guess what? You won't back up your hype. You'll sit there like every other keyboard commando and try to justify your existence in the car audio realm. I'd be happy to meet you in Daytona Beach. I'll bring an all D class amplified vehicle that isn't a show car and have my fun with you. Here's a hint...use the tube driven Panasonic TX-5500 source and some Butler tube amps. It's a start. Can't say I didn't give you any good advice. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 05-23-2012 at 08:55 PM.

05-23-2012, 06:24 PM	#52
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	rr is a troll in the classic sense. Almost every single post of his on Yarisworld is a trolling post. I did not realize people still thought Class D amps were inferior. I remember reading about Richard Clark and his experiment. An entire room and a full setup with everything to prove people wrong. That makes Scott's scores even more amazing. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

05-23-2012, 08:56 PM	#53
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	^I still hold out hope for RR. I have to have faith the we're just on opposite sides of the same coin. Scott was going up against Arc Audio's best. Fred Lynch's Arc SE amps are very nice. It comes down to dynamic power and how we perceive "better". Those JL/HD amps are basically 750 Watts per driver. The best I've got is 450 Watts (@ 12 Volts unregulated) from my DD S2b amps. Bummer! :) I was demoing the G35 for the entire day on Sunday at SBN. I cannot remember how many people I went through tracks with in that car. I'm thinking that he'll prolly have it at CES this next year unless he pulls something out of his sleeve, which could happen. Oh! Nice fun project. My wife is going to nursing school soon for 15 months in DC. This means I'll be turning the living room into a listening room! I've got the TL MTM speaker enclosures off some vintage solid state equipment. Sorry to say it isn't tube driven...I don't have a record player either. I ONLY have a blu ray and an SACD player. Damn I'm uncultured! :P __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
full range class D amps	patm	In Car Entertainment + Electronics (audio / video / alarm)	6	03-09-2012 09:44 PM