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RacerFreakXXX · 05-01-2010, 09:51 PM

I've decided to go turbo after a lot of thinking. I'm not going for anything fancy but I want to get the job done right. My goal is to make 130-140whp, my goal spending limit will be $2,500 or less, and my goal time frame completion is summer 2011. I'm going to need your help to piece together what I need. This goal is not including gauges, electronics, EMS. I have a good idea on what needs to be done with all of that.

Here is what I have:

ebay Intercooler - $50

Here is what I need:

Garrett Dual Ball Bearing GT2554R $900
Garms Bottom Mount Turbo Manifold $439
Perrin Fuel Rail $180
1zz-fe Fuel Injectors $60 - $100
Custom Piping - $500

So far my total is around $2,100 (playing it safe), so that gives me $400 for little things.

Questions:

-What GT25 Garrett turbo should I go with (basically what AR do I want)?

-What other turbochargers might you suggest for cheaper that are rebuilt or new?

-What are the little things I will need?

-What do you guys think of the XA/XB Ebay turbo manifolds?

-Are there any other bottom mount manifolds other than ebay, HKS, & Zage?

PETERPOOP · 05-01-2010, 10:06 PM

why don't you get the MI turbo manifold?

http://www.microimageonline.com/foru...s-are-in-stock

RacerFreakXXX · 05-01-2010, 10:19 PM

wow.... I missed that... thank you PETERPOOP. Now that's a lot more than I planned to spend.

cali yaris · 05-01-2010, 10:36 PM

Quote:

So far my total is around $1,900 (playing it safe), so that gives me $600 for little things.

management: hardware, wiring and tuning. what is your budget for that?

RacerFreakXXX · 05-01-2010, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

This goal is not including gauges, electronics, EMS.

ems, wiring, gauges, ect I will figure out... it's the gaskets, lines and adaptors that I really need help figuring out. Oh and a downpipe to go with that turbo manifold of yours, lol.

cali yaris · 05-01-2010, 10:41 PM

are you going to run an external wastegate?

cali yaris · 05-01-2010, 10:42 PM

Garrett GT2554R is what I used, it was an awesome little turbo. I'll be using that one for the kit I'm making.

RacerFreakXXX · 05-01-2010, 10:51 PM

Well that's good, and it's cheaper than the GT2560R. So you will be selling an actual kit turbo within the next year or will it be a step by step and sell it when it's done?

cali yaris · 05-01-2010, 10:54 PM

I'll be selling parts as I make them and a complete kit when a stock test car drives around boosted for a month without CELs.

RacerFreakXXX · 05-01-2010, 10:56 PM

well I'd be happy to be your test car, lol

PETERPOOP · 05-01-2010, 11:04 PM

The MicroImage turbo kit, I believe, will also not have any management.

cali yaris · 05-01-2010, 11:52 PM

^ that is the goal.

racer, add a BOV to your list

RacerFreakXXX · 05-02-2010, 12:12 AM

I'm not 100% on the bov... I'm also trying to see if I can run a turbo at low boost with little to know help from an ems. What do you plan to include in your kit?

cali yaris · 05-02-2010, 12:22 AM

Why are you not 100% on a BOV?

Parmas · 05-02-2010, 05:34 AM

Hi RacerFreak

Making a custom turbo setup is not easy and cheap as it seems. If you plan $2500 you might think of another $1000 for what you might forgot.

1. A BOV is not an option but a must so you must include that

2. Decide whether you are going internal or external wastegate. My opinion for low boost applications till 7psi, an internal wastegate of the Garrett turbo itself is good enough

3. Decide what intercooler fits best for your needs and looks. A top mount IC would be cheaper and is good for low boost while a front mount IC requires fitment, more expensive to buy but looks awesome. Don't forget the custom intercooler piping to add to the list.

4. Upgrading the fuel pump to a higher flow rate one is an insurance and might aswell need it to keep up fuel during boost. Also consider adding a fuel return line to the setup.

5. Also consider upgrading the fuel regulator to an aftermarket one

6. Maybe the stock clutch might hold but not for long. Try a stage 1 exedy clutch to be safe.

All parts can be cheap or expensive depending on brand and efficiency. My opinion is that to invest in quality parts as these are that assure your motor to work safe when you sometimes hit the gas more roughly

Hope this helps

cali yaris · 05-02-2010, 11:53 AM

^ I agree with almost all of that.

I'm a confirmed Clutchmasters fan now, I've used both and it's just a better clutch.

lilredrocket · 05-02-2010, 02:28 PM

If your goal is only 130-140ish HP why not go stage 0? No intercooler and run a water/meth kit. You are probably only going to be running 5psi.

Parmas · 05-02-2010, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilredrocket

If your goal is only 130-140ish HP why not go stage 0? No intercooler and run a water/meth kit. You are probably only going to be running 5psi.

A meth kit isn't cheap to buy and to install and you need to refill it when it's needed. An intercooler has no day to day to take care of and costs about the same compared to an average intercooler

05-01-2010, 09:51 PM	#1
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	Beefing Up my Yaris I've decided to go turbo after a lot of thinking. I'm not going for anything fancy but I want to get the job done right. My goal is to make 130-140whp, my goal spending limit will be $2,500 or less, and my goal time frame completion is summer 2011. I'm going to need your help to piece together what I need. This goal is not including gauges, electronics, EMS. I have a good idea on what needs to be done with all of that. Here is what I have: ebay Intercooler - $50 Here is what I need: Garrett Dual Ball Bearing GT2554R $900 Garms Bottom Mount Turbo Manifold $439 Perrin Fuel Rail $180 1zz-fe Fuel Injectors $60 - $100 Custom Piping - $500 So far my total is around $2,100 (playing it safe), so that gives me $400 for little things. Questions: -What GT25 Garrett turbo should I go with (basically what AR do I want)? -What other turbochargers might you suggest for cheaper that are rebuilt or new? -What are the little things I will need? -What do you guys think of the XA/XB Ebay turbo manifolds? -Are there any other bottom mount manifolds other than ebay, HKS, & Zage? Last edited by RacerFreakXXX; 05-01-2010 at 10:55 PM.

05-01-2010, 10:41 PM	#6
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	are you going to run an external wastegate? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

05-01-2010, 10:42 PM	#7
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Garrett GT2554R is what I used, it was an awesome little turbo. I'll be using that one for the kit I'm making. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

05-01-2010, 10:54 PM	#9
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I'll be selling parts as I make them and a complete kit when a stock test car drives around boosted for a month without CELs. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

05-01-2010, 11:52 PM	#12
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ that is the goal. racer, add a BOV to your list __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

05-01-2010, 10:06 PM	#2
PETERPOOP View User's Garage Drives: 08 white liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 3,674	why don't you get the MI turbo manifold? http://www.microimageonline.com/foru...s-are-in-stock

05-01-2010, 10:19 PM	#3
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	wow.... I missed that... thank you PETERPOOP. Now that's a lot more than I planned to spend.

05-01-2010, 10:51 PM	#8
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	Well that's good, and it's cheaper than the GT2560R. So you will be selling an actual kit turbo within the next year or will it be a step by step and sell it when it's done?

05-01-2010, 10:56 PM	#10
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	well I'd be happy to be your test car, lol

05-01-2010, 11:04 PM	#11
PETERPOOP View User's Garage Drives: 08 white liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 3,674	The MicroImage turbo kit, I believe, will also not have any management.

05-02-2010, 12:12 AM	#13
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	I'm not 100% on the bov... I'm also trying to see if I can run a turbo at low boost with little to know help from an ems. What do you plan to include in your kit? __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

05-02-2010, 12:22 AM	#14
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Why are you not 100% on a BOV? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

05-02-2010, 05:34 AM	#15
Parmas Drives: Vitz RS Turbo Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ML Posts: 576	Hi RacerFreak Making a custom turbo setup is not easy and cheap as it seems. If you plan $2500 you might think of another $1000 for what you might forgot. 1. A BOV is not an option but a must so you must include that 2. Decide whether you are going internal or external wastegate. My opinion for low boost applications till 7psi, an internal wastegate of the Garrett turbo itself is good enough 3. Decide what intercooler fits best for your needs and looks. A top mount IC would be cheaper and is good for low boost while a front mount IC requires fitment, more expensive to buy but looks awesome. Don't forget the custom intercooler piping to add to the list. 4. Upgrading the fuel pump to a higher flow rate one is an insurance and might aswell need it to keep up fuel during boost. Also consider adding a fuel return line to the setup. 5. Also consider upgrading the fuel regulator to an aftermarket one 6. Maybe the stock clutch might hold but not for long. Try a stage 1 exedy clutch to be safe. All parts can be cheap or expensive depending on brand and efficiency. My opinion is that to invest in quality parts as these are that assure your motor to work safe when you sometimes hit the gas more roughly Hope this helps

05-02-2010, 11:53 AM	#16
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ I agree with almost all of that. I'm a confirmed Clutchmasters fan now, I've used both and it's just a better clutch. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

05-02-2010, 02:28 PM	#17
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	If your goal is only 130-140ish HP why not go stage 0? No intercooler and run a water/meth kit. You are probably only going to be running 5psi. __________________

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