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03-20-2009, 04:41 PM | #1 |
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TC swap?
anyone tried to swap TC engine into yaris??
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03-20-2009, 04:57 PM | #2 | |
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pretty sure no
why would you choose such a heavy powerplant? and why not call it a toyota Highlander engine?
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03-20-2009, 05:55 PM | #3 |
or a camry
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throw a nissan titan engine in thar
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1999 tacoma 2.4
2AZFE sorry dude, you're wrong http://www.1aauto.com/1A/alternator/...AL00344/610766
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I don't think the point is that it won't fit but more that there are better, lighter options that will also fit
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Well personally if I couldn't figure a way to stuff a LS1 in it I wouldn't bother with a motor swap in the Yaris... but for those that would, I think they find other Toyota motors to be a better choice.
As for engine swaps in general, certain motors like the chevy 350 or the LS1 or etc. can be put in almost anything and still be considered ok in the car world. A die hard fan will always be against an engine from a different make though.
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assuming you are talking about the last generation MR2's 1ZZ-FE, I'm pretty sure that engine wasn't as powerful as the 2zz-GE from the Celica.
don't qoute me though, I'm no Toyota engine diehard
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You'd stand out from the rest of us...
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www.monkeywrenchracing.com for all your 1zz/2zz needs
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the 2AZ will fit and it is a great platform to build on. On such a light car, the power to weight difference doesn't really factor in. Yes, the 2ZZ is more powerful, but that doesn't mean better.
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In what way is a 2.4L that is producing less power better than a 1.8 producing more? From what I hear the 2ZZ is a tight squeeze already. There's no way you'll be able fit a supercharger or turbo with the 2AZ(if it actually fits). |
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PK, if it's the latest model MR2 then yes, that would be a 1ZZ engine. Engine which was also used in the previous generation regular 1.8L Corollas. The 2ZZ (Celica, Matrix/Corolla XRS) is essentially the same engine, but with the VVTL-i head which, like Honda's VTEC, allows a high-RPM cam profile for an increase in power, like a second wind, if you will... These engines have been swapped in Yarii over here, as well as Puerto Rico, and I am sure in many other places. If it's an older MR2 then you'd have the 2.0L 3S-GE engine, a very very respectable powerplant but far larger and heavier than the ZZ series. I have seen one with my own eyes wedged in a previous-generation Vios here, really tight fit!
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03-21-2009, 06:20 AM | #18 |
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Sounds like I need to revamp the old "motor swap thread"
2az (New TC 2.4L Motor) Will not fit. Reasons why, 1. Its a BIG motor compared to the Yaris motor, I mean yes it is small in comparrison to other 2.4L motors, but it is fairly too big to fit in the tiny Hatchback engine bay, even the sedan engine bay wouldnt hold that much. 2. The complete orientation of the motor is reversed from the Yaris, meaning that the hot side (exhaust) and cold side (intake) are reversed...This will only complicate things if you want to keep the ECU and cooling parts in their same area, IF you wedge the motor in the car, but the header is 3 centimeters from the radiator, your going to have a small issue. Or if its 3 centimeters from the ECU, problems once more. The hardest part of this particular swap, would be rebuilding the engine bay from the ground up to make everything fit and work in a harmonous manner. Plus there is the downfall of having to change either the complete setup of the engine bay, or the orientation of the motor...CUSTOM WORK, of course your going to expect it when it comes to exhaust and intake piping, but when you have to change drivetrain parts, who says that the TC transmission is even going to come close to fitting, and if even clear certain critical parts of the Yaris. Then your going to have to pray that after all this, you can bolt up to the origional driveshafts, if not...more custom and costly work. 3. IF you were to swap this in, there are better and smaller motors out there that can generate the same if not more HP than this engine. The 2az TC motor only produces about 160hp, the Xb version even less...Now compare that to a 1zz from the Celica (140hp) add intake, exhaust, header, pulleys and you are at the same HP level. Cram a 2zz in there and your looking at 170ish HP. A 4age Blacktop is around the same HP as the 2az. I am not saying the 2az is a bad motor, just there are more motors out there, than just the TC one. 4. Money, IF you are willing to spend this kind of money into a car, I would assume that more than likely you could have afforded a nicer/faster car. If you wanted 160hp to start, why not buy a last gen Civic SI hatch (Not trying to promote Honda, but just being honest). 5. With money comes another idea, instead of tearing apart EVERYTHING in hope that you can start new, take the existing motor, redo internals and try boost. Almost every application using a turbocharger out there is putting down 150WHP (WHEEL, not base), which is about 170bhp. I am not claiming that the 1nz (Yaris motor) is the best canidate for the forced induction market, but by no means does it have no potential...Just ask Garm Oh and to clear up the cost of a 2az motor, cheapest one I found was $1100, no transmission, no ECU, no wiring harness, etc...cheapest with all that was about $2000, but with a 4spd auto, "Complete". Oh, and heres the application list for all vehicles that have a 2azfe in them... Most common application is the TC, and Camry Toyota Camry (2002-2009) Toyota Matrix XRS/Pontiac Vibe (2009-) Toyota Corolla XRS (2009-) Toyota Camry Solara (2004-) Toyota RAV4 (2006-2008) Toyota Highlander/Kluger (2001-2003) Toyota Estima / Toyota Previa / Toyota Tarago Toyota Alphard Toyota Blade Scion tC Scion xB (2008-)
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