Air Filter

[cwk8412]

Does anyone know whether the air filter on second gen yaris will fit on the third gen yaris?

[91mustang]

Should be exactly the same.

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[ccyaris]

Agree, K&N 33-2360 Air Filter the best, little pricey but reusable.

[Dabuu]

Yup, it's the same.

I've personally ran a TRD drop in filter from an ncp91 in my 131.

[Captain Yaris]

Is it worth it? Does it make that much of a difference?

[ern-diz]

Call me crazy, but I felt a difference after installing K&N and resetting the ECU. Was surprised by what felt like it not being as bogged down under WOT as it was with the paper filter. Not quite as much as the bump I felt after installing lightweight wheels, but a similar feeling. Wasn't expecting it, but noticed it.

[scylla]

If the K&N filters are the same as way back when I used them, you have to be careful of how much you oil them. You can foul the MAF sensor.

Ask me how I know.

[Captain Yaris]

Over oiling them is one of the reasons that I've been hesitant about using the filters. Thanks for the input. Would you all recommend a drop in or go all out with the Typhoon CAI? Is one better than the other?

[ern-diz]

Yeah, I plan to be sparing with the oil when I get around to cleaning it.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Call me crazy, but I felt a difference after installing K&N and resetting the ECU. Was surprised by what felt like it not being as bogged down under WOT as it was with the paper filter. Not quite as much as the bump I felt after installing lightweight wheels, but a similar feeling. Wasn't expecting it, but noticed it.

That's very interesting. I guess I'll just keep using the paper filters. Usually buy the engine and cabin filter from ebay for well under $10 for both.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

In my first Yaris, the K&N Typhoon SRI helped bring back some power/torque that I lost from my 2.25" custom resonator-back exhaust. Sounded great too.

On my Yaris now, I just have a drop in K&N filter. No power difference felt until I removed the carbon trap. Felt a tad bit more responsive, and my mpg went up.

On my FR-S, I have a K&N drop in filter. No power difference by itself. Once I tuned the engine with an OFT, picked up quite a bit of power/torque, especially around the torque dip area of the FR-S.

Got an Injen SRI for the FR-S. Car drove like sh!t. Would bog down if you WOT from a standstill. Car felt like it lost quite a bit of power too. Intake temps were 10+ degrees higher. Removed it after a week and sold the Injen, and went back to the OEM intake with the K&N.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by kimona

That's very interesting. I guess I'll just keep using the paper filters. Usually buy the engine and cabin filter from ebay for well under $10 for both.

Yeah, the car feels like it inhales a little easier now, but I'm still a little worried about the oiling piece when cleaning. Don't want to create MAF issues for myself...

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

In my first Yaris, the K&N Typhoon SRI helped bring back some power/torque that I lost from my 2.25" custom resonator-back exhaust. Sounded great too.

On my Yaris now, I just have a drop in K&N filter. No power difference felt until I removed the carbon trap. Felt a tad bit more responsive, and my mpg went up.

On my FR-S, I have a K&N drop in filter. No power difference by itself. Once I tuned the engine with an OFT, picked up quite a bit of power/torque, especially around the torque dip area of the FR-S.

Got an Injen SRI for the FR-S. Car drove like sh!t. Would bog down if you WOT from a standstill. Car felt like it lost quite a bit of power too. Intake temps were 10+ degrees higher. Removed it after a week and sold the Injen, and went back to the OEM intake with the K&N.

Did you unplug the battery and reset the ECU after installing the K&N? Call me crazy, K&N doesn't say anything about it, but I didn't feel an improvement until sometime after having installed the K&N and then needing to disconnect the battery for something unrelated. I could be crediting the K&N for improvement that simply came from the ECU reset. Not ruling that out.

[Captain Yaris]

Thanks for the input, I think I'm going to try a K & N drop in. What is the deal with removing the carbon trap?

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by ccyaris

Agree, K&N 33-2360 Air Filter the best, little pricey but reusable.

K&N air filters are shit.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by scylla

If the K&N filters are the same as way back when I used them, you have to be careful of how much you oil them. You can foul the MAF sensor.

Ask me how I know.

Not only fouling the MAF, but also letting in a ton of crap. I had one on a VR6 Passat, and it gave me nothing but trouble.

And no, they don't do anything for performance.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Yeah, the car feels like it inhales a little easier now, but I'm still a little worried about the oiling piece when cleaning. Don't want to create MAF issues for myself...



Did you unplug the battery and reset the ECU after installing the K&N? Call me crazy, K&N doesn't say anything about it, but I didn't feel an improvement until sometime after having installed the K&N and then needing to disconnect the battery for something unrelated. I could be crediting the K&N for improvement that simply came from the ECU reset. Not ruling that out.

Just don't go crazy when oiling. Get some MAF sensor cleaner as well and clean the sensor every now-and-then.

Yup, did that (annoying in the FR-S since I have to retrain the gas pedal to be more linear).

It all comes down to how efficient a car's OEM intake box and intake tubing is. I guess the FR-S just has a really efficient intake system.

[ABSPLASTIC]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Just don't go crazy when oiling. Get some MAF sensor cleaner as well and clean the sensor every now-and-then.

Yup, did that (annoying in the FR-S since I have to retrain the gas pedal to be more linear).

It all comes down to how efficient a car's OEM intake box and intake tubing is. I guess the FR-S just has a really efficient intake system.

Had mine for roughly 80k miles with no problem and have cleaned it every other oil change. No fouling thus far

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by ABSPLASTIC

Had mine for roughly 80k miles with no problem and have cleaned it every other oil change. No fouling thus far

Yeah, I had a K&N filter of some sort on the first Yaris for probably 90k-100k. The FR-S' K&N has around 50k on it. No issues for me either.