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Old 12-11-2008, 11:06 AM   #1
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Question Motor Oil and filters

I have researched this with no prevail on this site, maybe its been erased since it was hacked before??

Anyway, so I need an oil change bad... running close to 5000miles on my mobile1 5w-30. I was thinking of going with royal purple 5w-30.

Others have said 0w30? I don't eee what this will do to an engine that states 5w30. Please give me some insight before I do stay with 5w30.

If that oil is good, what filter should I use? I have heard toyota tell me that they only recommend their oil filters.

If anyone can get me a part number for the oil filter for my 2007 Yaris Sadan, I would appreciate that.

Maybe I can buy the filter and just change the oil myself at home instead of driving far and spending more on labor costs.

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:15 AM   #2
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when i asked the dealer they said 5w30 and only 5w30
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:23 AM   #3
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even 5w30 in the winter?
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:24 AM   #4
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5w30 is all she wrote apparently and he also said in the yaris regular toyota 5w30 or synthetic 5w30 will perform about the same. i wanna run synthetic because i like it though
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:25 AM   #5
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I have researched this with no prevail on this site, maybe its been erased since it was hacked before??

Anyway, so I need an oil change bad... running close to 5000miles on my mobile1 5w-30. I was thinking of going with royal purple 5w-30.

Others have said 0w30? I don't eee what this will do to an engine that states 5w30. Please give me some insight before I do stay with 5w30.

If that oil is good, what filter should I use? I have heard toyota tell me that they only recommend their oil filters.

If anyone can get me a part number for the oil filter for my 2007 Yaris Sadan, I would appreciate that.

Maybe I can buy the filter and just change the oil myself at home instead of driving far and spending more on labor costs.

Thank you!
I'd just stick with 5w-30. Being synthetic the cold flow is good enough and I doubt that fuel economy will be that much different with 0w-30

Wix (PN 51394)/Napa Gold (PN 1394) is a quality filter.
RP oil is good, but I'd have to pay about $2 per qt more than the deal I'm getting on Amsoil...In the past I've used M1, Redline, RP, etc; all pretty good oil and fairly easy to find.

...or ask someone to change it for you, with you suppling the oil and filter. You're probably looking at maybe $20.00 (labor). Around here synthetic oil changes go for $55.00 to $85.00, depending where you shop.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:40 AM   #6
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Cool, thank you to all for the quick response.

I have not found Amsoil anywhere just yet, but for the little difference it makes on just 4 quarts of oil the engine needs, I rather go for the best.

Other then that, what would be concidered the "best" oil filter for our car?

I just want to find it, stock up on it all, and do this myself for now on. Any website or vendor on here that sells the stuff, please recommend, if not its ebay.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:55 AM   #7
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K&N would likely make the best filter but it's WAY overkill for the Yaris. The wix or OE filter is just fine, especially if you are diligent with your oil changes.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:09 PM   #8
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see posts here for Used Oil Analysises for SHELL , PENNZOIL full synthetics . Good performance at a fair price . Says 5w-30 on oil cap and in owners manual . No mention of 0w-30 . Read somewhere that TOYOTA is getting tough on warranty for engine due to misuse . Better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:15 PM   #9
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If you want overkill find an Amsoil dealer, here on the board or a local distributor (check the Amsoil site for answers?), and use HP5w-30 and their Ea oil filter (Ea009)

The Ea filter appears to be built by Wix, but the filter media isn't paper, looks more like a K&N air filter...some sort of media supported by mesh screen.

Amsoil XL oil is great for 5K OCIs, with the WIX filter, overkill for the HP oil and the Ea filter, but I get a good deal so I went with the overkill.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:22 PM   #10
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i wonder who makes the TRD filters... they go for 20-40$ a piece.. like.. omg
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All these abriviations are throwing me way off. Dont understand much of them. Im not stupid, just cant read them all when half the sentence is just that!

Either way, I guess I will stick with Royal Purple this time.

Does anyone know if I deviate from bringing in my car to the dealership, if they will use that against me in the future if something goes wrong? (Assuming I just do the oil changes myself?) So far all maintenance has been done by them.
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i wonder who makes the TRD filters... they go for 20-40$ a piece.. like.. omg
K&N.. my dealer sells them for $9
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:25 PM   #13
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Who makes K&N oil filters?
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:27 PM   #14
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All these abriviations are throwing me way off. Dont understand much of them. Im not stupid, just cant read them all when half the sentence is just that!

Either way, I guess I will stick with Royal Purple this time.

Does anyone know if I deviate from bringing in my car to the dealership, if they will use that against me in the future if something goes wrong? (Assuming I just do the oil changes myself?) So far all maintenance has been done by them.
Just keep ALL the paperwork in your owners manual in the glove box. Receipts, dates RO's. I always ask for RO printout of any work done even at dealer so thier computer database doesn't go "mysteriously" off line during a warranty issue.

AFA oil and filter - tried 'em all over the years - settling on MOTUL 8100 eco-nergy (not in stores, imported from europe, from LTB motorsports online) and Wix filter but for the 2AZFE 2.4L motor - just a bit bigger but same specs. Car runs perfect now with this stuff - it didn't before. Too bad it like 9$ a litre! I am a MOTUL convert. I had Royal Purple 5w30 street oil in there a while back but wasn't crazy about it really. It ran good up at the redline with hammer down street race driving action but weird and nervous at tooling around grandma speeds. IDK. my dos centavos
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i wonder who makes the TRD filters... they go for 20-40$ a piece.. like.. omg
Didn't Denso make the real TRD filters? I don't know if they had the foam media like the OEM Japanese Toyota filters...like what was installed on the Yaris from the factory, unlike what the dealership stocks.
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:31 PM   #16
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If your car won't start with 5w oil in there, move somewhere WARMER ;) the 5W is Winter oil. Otherwise pick a real SYN with high percentage PAO basestock for winter.
aND THAT k&N aint no thang, no big deal, WIX is all you need, works better than the toyota on my sisters machine!
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:46 PM   #17
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i buy my OEM toyota filters from www.partznet.com
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Just keep ALL the paperwork in your owners manual in the glove box. Receipts, dates RO's. I always ask for RO printout of any work done even at dealer so thier computer database doesn't go "mysteriously" off line during a warranty issue.

AFA oil and filter - tried 'em all over the years - settling on MOTUL 8100 eco-nergy (not in stores, imported from europe, from LTB motorsports online) and Wix filter but for the 2AZFE 2.4L motor - just a bit bigger but same specs. Car runs perfect now with this stuff - it didn't before.
51396 filter? If so, yeah, looks exactly the same except for being about a 1/2 inch taller. Same micron rating and flow rate. Too bad I had 3 Ea filters in stock already.
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