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Old 03-06-2014, 09:33 AM   #397
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Hi is there any information anywhere on these installs?

I've acquired a second hand AP800 and want to install it on my Yaris and have figured out the wiring except for the accelerator pedal.
Like I asked on your other thread - What year is your Yaris, as that makes a difference in the wiring?
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:43 AM   #398
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Like I asked on your other thread - What year is your Yaris, as that makes a difference in the wiring?
oh sorry didn't see a reply

it's a 2007 Yaris
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:02 AM   #399
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oh sorry didn't see a reply

it's a 2007 Yaris
OK. The accelerator pedal has a 6 pin connector.

1 - White: VCP2 (Sensor 2 power)
2 - Brown: EPA2 (Sensor 2 ground)
3 - Light blue: VPA2 (Sensor 2 output)
4 - Black: VCPA (Sensor 1 power)
5 - Green: EPA (Sensor 1 ground)
6 - Red: VPA (Sensor 1 output)


I haven't seen the install manual for the AP800 for the Yaris, but looking at the pinout of the AP800 it has a high and low throttle position sensor connections.

On the Yaris the VPA signal would be the low one (2.6 to 4.5 V at full throttle) and VPA2 would be the high one (3.4 to 5.0 V at full throttle).
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:23 AM   #400
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Awesome that's perfect
thanks!

you don't also happen to have the same thing for a 2006 Corolla do you?
It's also a 6pin plug but different configuration

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also where did you find it?
because I've been searching for hours and got nothing

*edit edit*
just googled corolla VCP2 and found it :S

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OK. The accelerator pedal has a 6 pin connector.

1 - White: VCP2 (Sensor 2 power)
2 - Brown: EPA2 (Sensor 2 ground)
3 - Light blue: VPA2 (Sensor 2 output)
4 - Black: VCPA (Sensor 1 power)
5 - Green: EPA (Sensor 1 ground)
6 - Red: VPA (Sensor 1 output)


I haven't seen the install manual for the AP800 for the Yaris, but looking at the pinout of the AP800 it has a high and low throttle position sensor connections.

On the Yaris the VPA signal would be the low one (2.6 to 4.5 V at full throttle) and VPA2 would be the high one (3.4 to 5.0 V at full throttle).

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Old 03-06-2014, 11:07 AM   #401
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Awesome that's perfect
thanks!

you don't also happen to have the same thing for a 2006 Corolla do you?
It's also a 6pin plug but different configuration

*edit*
also where did you find it?
because I've been searching for hours and got nothing

*edit edit*
just googled corolla VCP2 and found it :S
I don't have the info for the Corolla, but the pinout order is likely the same with just the wire colors being different. You can verify that by measuring the voltage on the pins where the "power" pins should have 5 volts on them and the grounds zero.

I found a manual for the aftermarket cruise online, but it was not for a Yaris.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:38 PM   #402
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I don't have the info for the Corolla, but the pinout order is likely the same with just the wire colors being different. You can verify that by measuring the voltage on the pins where the "power" pins should have 5 volts on them and the grounds zero.

I found a manual for the aftermarket cruise online, but it was not for a Yaris.
Yeah I thought the same too but the order is different

yeah? could you link it to me anyway please?
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:50 PM   #403
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Yeah I thought the same too but the order is different

yeah? could you link it to me anyway please?
http://nicolas.bct.free.fr/Regulateu...rateur_HDi.pdf

I ran into the diagram for the 05 Corolla and it shows:

1. Yellow - EPA2
2. White - VPA2
3. Yellow - EPA
4. Black - VCP2
5. Green - VPA
6. Black - VCPA
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:45 AM   #404
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Awesome got it installed and working. Just need to calibrate it now

Thanks for all your help
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:22 AM   #405
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omfg so lame... followed instructions to calibrate and now it doesn't work fml

linked the manual I was using
http://www.lupo3lklub.dk/pdf/AP900C_...ion_Manual.pdf

my unit is actually an AP800 but the seemed to have replaced that with a 2 in 1 type unit the AP900c
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:00 AM   #406
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omfg so lame... followed instructions to calibrate and now it doesn't work fml

linked the manual I was using
http://www.lupo3lklub.dk/pdf/AP900C_...ion_Manual.pdf

my unit is actually an AP800 but the seemed to have replaced that with a 2 in 1 type unit the AP900c
Will it respond to the "Diagnostics mode" listed in the manual?
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:37 PM   #407
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Will it respond to the "Diagnostics mode" listed in the manual?
ok found an AP800 manual from a supplier the setup modes are slightly different got it working again but still want to smooth out the cruise control

It seems fine but at 80 km/h it's kind of "jerky" and takes awhile to settle, like its trying to maintain speed by tapping the accelerator instead of gradual pedal control.

There's instructions to manually adjust the INIT, GAIN and PPM but I don't exactly understand what that is yet. Doing some reading on it now
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Old 06-21-2014, 04:31 PM   #408
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Since the car is built with a spiral cable that does not have enough wires to support cruise control, it is unlikely that the ECM is programmed for it.

In doing a bit more research on the Axio Fielder, the ones with the same engine as the Yaris (1NZ-FE) do not support cruise control, but the ones with the 2ZR-FE engine do.
Hey CTScott,

maybe it is again a stupid question about the cruise control in the european Yaris XP9.
I read that you have not found any model in the EWDs which has CC built in.

Pointing to the above quote I post it to clarify for myself. Because all my trials on the net gave only answers for the smaler engine types.

In my case it is the TS 1.8 (2ZR-FE engine) with the ECM 89661-52F30. So far as I could investigate built only for Europe and Japan.
Additional: This car was only built in Japan, so maybe this is a chance to have CC programmed.

If it won't be in I am going probably with the ROSTRA 250-1873. The European solution will be more than double priced (waeco magicspeed ms-880).

Thanks for your work here it is an outstanding platform with a lot of useful stuff.

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Old 03-20-2015, 03:22 AM   #409
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Hello CTScott, I know you said that only cars with US/Canada specs support CC, but I need to know if my 2014 yaris with mexican specs supports it since the car appears to be fully wired (the d3 has the black wire for the horn, the blue and brown for the CC and aparently 3 more wires for audio controls). It also appears to have the CC indicator on the instrument panel along with the vsc/trac which is not an option for sedans in mexico. Is there any option for me in case OEM CC can't be installed? I take highways a lot and it's not fun for my leg.
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Hello CTScott, I know you said that only cars with US/Canada specs support CC, but I need to know if my 2014 yaris with mexican specs supports it since the car appears to be fully wired (the d3 has the black wire for the horn, the blue and brown for the CC and aparently 3 more wires for audio controls). It also appears to have the CC indicator on the instrument panel along with the vsc/trac which is not an option for sedans in mexico. Is there any option for me in case OEM CC can't be installed? I take highways a lot and it's not fun for my leg.
Yes. Mexico spec cars are the same as US spec ones, so it will work for you.
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Yes. Mexico spec cars are the same as US spec ones, so it will work for you.
I tried to test the CC with a two switch set from one of your tutorials but nothing happened, then I tried to bridge the blue and brown cables and nothing. I did the tests because I don't want to buy the stalk and the wire without knowing for sure if the car's CC is enabled. Am I doing something wrong? Is there any other way to find out?

Thanks for answering!
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Check for the presence of the blue wire on the ECM connector. The ones from the steering column may only run to the junction block under the dash top.
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Check for the presence of the blue wire on the ECM connector. The ones from the steering column may only run to the junction block under the dash top.
There's nothing in the 40 pin, should I test it with a voltimeter? If so, please tell me the right steps to do it because I don't want to set the car on fire
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If you pull the rubber plug you can stick a small piece of wire in the hole to take the voltage measurement. Turn the key to the on position and take the measurement with the red on that wire and the black lead on a ground.
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