engine question... (2ZR-FE and 2ZZ-GE) - Toyota Yaris Forums

Avia · 05-23-2007, 06:21 AM

the first one is the new yaris TS engine and the second one is the celica TS engine.

both are 1.8, both are vvt-i, both are 16v.

the yaris engine produce 133 bhp, but the celica engine produce 190 bhp.

what do i miss?

eTiMaGo · 05-23-2007, 06:27 AM

VVTL-i and a GE vs FE head

2ZR is economy-oriented, 2ZZ is performance oriented, basically!

IllusionX · 05-23-2007, 03:54 PM

bet you can swap the FE head with a GE head..
so you'd have a 2ZR-GE...

and later generation of the 2ZZ only outputs 180 on the celica and 170 on the corolla.. hehe funny shit.

eTiMaGo · 05-23-2007, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllusionX

bet you can swap the FE head with a GE head..
so you'd have a 2ZR-GE...

and later generation of the 2ZZ only outputs 180 on the celica and 170 on the corolla.. hehe funny shit.

I doubt it'll work properly... the 2ZZ has variable lift, which is controlled by the ECU. If you put that head on a non variable lift engine, the ECU won't know anything about it... Unless you change the ECU as well, but that's certainly another can of worms...

Oh and yeah, there are certain sub-versions of the 2ZZ as mentioned, with different outputs... Standard Toyota spec is 180hp for the Celica, Lotus tweaked their version to 190hp (or 230hp if I am not mistaken with a supercharger in the Exige S), and the Corolla version was de-tuned I think to suit some regulations (as it's not considered a sports car like the Celica, it probably needs to be quieter, I dunno...)

weapon5 · 12-23-2010, 05:49 PM

the 2ZR-FE is also dual vvti verse the 2zzge which is not but the 2zzge does have lift like you guys mention. doing a ge head is simple you have your fe head and you do a head job bam GE lol :D

thebarber · 12-24-2010, 08:16 AM

all 2zzge's put down the same at-wheel horsepower, despite what the brochures say

2zrfe would fit in the yaris MUCH more easily than a 2zzge

05-23-2007, 06:21 AM	#1
Avia I've made a post! Drives: yaris Join Date: May 2007 Location: middle east Posts: 1	engine question... (2ZR-FE and 2ZZ-GE) the first one is the new yaris TS engine and the second one is the celica TS engine. both are 1.8, both are vvt-i, both are 16v. the yaris engine produce 133 bhp, but the celica engine produce 190 bhp. what do i miss?

05-23-2007, 06:27 AM	#2
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	VVTL-i and a GE vs FE head 2ZR is economy-oriented, 2ZZ is performance oriented, basically! __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

12-24-2010, 08:16 AM	#6
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	all 2zzge's put down the same at-wheel horsepower, despite what the brochures say 2zrfe would fit in the yaris MUCH more easily than a 2zzge __________________

05-23-2007, 03:54 PM	#3
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	bet you can swap the FE head with a GE head.. so you'd have a 2ZR-GE... and later generation of the 2ZZ only outputs 180 on the celica and 170 on the corolla.. hehe funny shit.

12-23-2010, 05:49 PM	#5
weapon5 Drives: VITZ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: MN Posts: 58	the 2ZR-FE is also dual vvti verse the 2zzge which is not but the 2zzge does have lift like you guys mention. doing a ge head is simple you have your fe head and you do a head job bam GE lol :D