Question about Yaris performance

[bonjournaste]

I remember when the Echo came out and being quite impressed with the performance for what it was. I remember articles in Car and Driver and Motor Trend showing 0-60 times with high 7's, low 8's.

(random ones i could find online)
http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicl...echo_2000.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...yota_echo.html


Does anyone know if there's a difference in weight or gearing compared to the new Yaris? The only numbers I could find for the Yaris were in the mid 9's 0-60, but I couldn't find anything from the major magazines online.

Even with the Yaris TS, they're stating 9.3 0-62 times, (so say 9 flat 0-60). I'm hoping that's a conservative number?

Obviously they're not built for speed, but the Echo was suprisingly quick, and that was also 6 years ago. Power to weight seems like it should be close?

Any thoughts?

[Katana]

First of all, the new Yaris is heavier.Next, its engine(1.8lt, 132hp) will give better accelleration not from stop but in higher speeds.It will certainly have plenty of torque!

[ECHOKnight2000]

The first article is one of the few I found to be positive about the ECHO

Anyway the new Yaris is a totally different platform and as mentioned before it weighs more...so handling characteristics are going to be different at least for the most part. I'm just second guessing but I'm guessing the Yaris hatch and sedan run around 2,200lbs to 2,350lbs depending on options and configuration (hatch or sedan) but according to the spec sheet the hatch and sedan are roughly about the same weight but from various reviews people find the hatch to be more "quick" or at least seem that way. I know the gearing is different to compensate for the weight gain.

Here is a link to the U.S. site, if you go to "capacities" tab it will show the curb weight of both models.http://www.toyota.com/yaris/specs.html

[Katana]

Nice job there.

The new Yaris has better handling that the previous model, but it is a bit slower.

[Pars]

My 07 Yaris manual seems very quick in 1st and 2nd gear, but the extra bulk (when compared to older model) shows through when it's time to go into third gear. So, up to 80km/hr it seems very quick or at least on par with any of the quicker competition.

Back when I was driving my 98 Civic Hatch, I was surprised that the old Echo could keep up with me up to 100km/hr, but then I'd waste it at higher speeds. The upcoming 1.8L on the TS is going to be a really fun setup.

[Katana]

Exactly.

Between 0-110 km/h my car is pretty fast.However, between 110-140 it is very very slow.After 140km/h it is kind of fast again.