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Old 03-09-2019, 05:06 PM   #55
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Shame that Mazda uses a GDI engine even in their Mazda2. Not interested in the carbon-sludge headache & maintenance associated with it to keep it running properly. I would rather stick to NA port-injected engines or port+direct injection combo engines. That really really limits new vehicle selection today, however - especially if you also don't want a CVT transmission but want an automatic. I'm thinking that I will probably look for a (no doubt rare) lower-mileage automatic 2018 Yaris SE hatchback in about 2 years if no one ever releases a decent-looking & reliable subcompact/compact hybrid in the U.S. market before then. I really hate the U.S. car/vehicle market.
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Old 03-09-2019, 07:11 PM   #56
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I just bought a new 2019 Yaris hatch manual (Canada). Didn't want GDI injection, didn't want a Mazda. Fortunately you can still get the Toyota made hatch here, I suspect we'll get the Mazda hatch for 2020 although that's not confirmed yet.
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Old 03-09-2019, 08:06 PM   #57
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Shame that Mazda uses a GDI engine even in their Mazda2. Not interested in the carbon-sludge headache & maintenance associated with it to keep it running properly. I would rather stick to NA port-injected engines or port+direct injection combo engines. That really really limits new vehicle selection today, however - especially if you also don't want a CVT transmission but want an automatic. I'm thinking that I will probably look for a (no doubt rare) lower-mileage automatic 2018 Yaris SE hatchback in about 2 years if no one ever releases a decent-looking & reliable subcompact/compact hybrid in the U.S. market before then. I really hate the U.S. car/vehicle market.

i will sell you my yaris, for a premium if you want a car that badly.
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Old 03-09-2019, 08:59 PM   #58
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Oh "boo hoo", for the whiners.

Those claiming that "Mazda will bring Toyota down", check out how well regarded the Yaris iA is by Comsumer Rpoerts. Sure enthusiasts can say "I don't care", but CR is looked to by most paying customers, who are mainly looking for reliability. No, they are not "rusting", nor "bringing Toyota down".

Link: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars.../2018/overview

"The badge may say Toyota, but this car is built by Mazda and uses Mazda parts. That's a good thing. Related to the Mazda CX-3, it brings frugality, but not at the expense of ride comfort and driving enjoyment like past Toyota econoboxes. With the Yaris iA, Toyota has done away with the bare-bones economy car, delivering something fresh and fun... "

And one more thing, the 2019 Yaris, which is only the Mazda based sedan, was rated "Best Subcompact Car for 2019".
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ks/2936504002/

So, get over it, IMHO. :-)
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:45 AM   #59
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Oh "boo hoo", for the whiners.

Those claiming that "Mazda will bring Toyota down", check out how well regarded the Yaris iA is by Comsumer Rpoerts. Sure enthusiasts can say "I don't care", but CR is looked to by most paying customers, who are mainly looking for reliability. No, they are not "rusting", nor "bringing Toyota down".

Link: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars.../2018/overview

"The badge may say Toyota, but this car is built by Mazda and uses Mazda parts. That's a good thing. Related to the Mazda CX-3, it brings frugality, but not at the expense of ride comfort and driving enjoyment like past Toyota econoboxes. With the Yaris iA, Toyota has done away with the bare-bones economy car, delivering something fresh and fun... "

And one more thing, the 2019 Yaris, which is only the Mazda based sedan, was rated "Best Subcompact Car for 2019".
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ks/2936504002/

So, get over it, IMHO. :-)
no mods for the yaris sedan, drove one and its shifts like crap, cause the dealer let me do a shake down, like a real one and its just all flash and trying to be premium, like a hipster with maxed out credit cards wearing gucchi premium. its ride is soft and it doesnt soak up lumps right.

the little knobby crap thing was annoying and the non touch screen had horrible sunlight vision and no adjustability. sportmode was a joke and its visibility is crud.

i just want a 3door like the one i teased in the leaks even if its a watered down version so i can get an 2200 pound hatchback and upgrade from my one now, plus with GRMN support supposidly it would mean i wouldnt have to stick to my old clunker and could probabyl get leather and heated seats and all that jazz, cuz that bubble body is wooooo wee pretty, maybe, if its the 2008 version updated for toyotas useage then hell yeah its nice.
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Old 03-10-2019, 08:19 AM   #60
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Oh "boo hoo", for the whiners.

Those claiming that "Mazda will bring Toyota down", check out how well regarded the Yaris iA is by Comsumer Rpoerts. Sure enthusiasts can say "I don't care", but CR is looked to by most paying customers, who are mainly looking for reliability. No, they are not "rusting", nor "bringing Toyota down".

Link: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars.../2018/overview

"The badge may say Toyota, but this car is built by Mazda and uses Mazda parts. That's a good thing. Related to the Mazda CX-3, it brings frugality, but not at the expense of ride comfort and driving enjoyment like past Toyota econoboxes. With the Yaris iA, Toyota has done away with the bare-bones economy car, delivering something fresh and fun... "

And one more thing, the 2019 Yaris, which is only the Mazda based sedan, was rated "Best Subcompact Car for 2019".
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ks/2936504002/

So, get over it, IMHO. :-)
The car isn't nearly old enough to determine its reliability based off of CR. I agree Mazda isn't a bad brand from a reliability standpoint (sans rust) but to claim it's been shown to be reliable on a car that has only been out a small amount of years is silly. Remind of the Chevy commercials shoving virtually meaningless JD Power porn in our faces
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Old 03-10-2019, 01:07 PM   #61
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Consumer Reports, lol. Are you kidding me? They are as pretentious, biased & bought as the so-called professional movie critics who fawned over garbage movies like The Black Panther, etc. Also, they believe that all the tech-bloat sensor 'safety features' that are only useful for self-driving cars & cars being driven by distracted idiots is what makes or breaks a 'good car'. It's laughable. Have fun with those flawed GDI engines, turbos & crappy push-belt CVTs that they love so much because they are 'more modern' & get 2 more MPG (at least until they prematurely break or get sludged up).

If you want a good feel for how a car really is, go read the forums of various models & how owners convey their first-hand experiences with them after owning them for a while. The iA forums are a real mixed bag, with a big thread dedicated to transmission problems & failure within the first several years, and other various build quality-problem threads. Sounds like when you buy one, it is a potluck special on whether you get a decent one or a bad one. Same with the Honda HR-V.
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:09 PM   #62
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Consumer Reports, lol. Are you kidding me? They are as pretentious, biased & bought as the so-called professional movie critics who fawned over garbage movies like The Black Panther, etc. Also, they believe that all the tech-bloat sensor 'safety features' that are only useful for self-driving cars & cars being driven by distracted idiots is what makes or breaks a 'good car'. It's laughable. Have fun with those flawed GDI engines, turbos & crappy push-belt CVTs that they love so much because they are 'more modern' & get 2 more MPG (at least until they prematurely break or get sludged up).

If you want a good feel for how a car really is, go read the forums of various models & how owners convey their first-hand experiences with them after owning them for a while. The iA forums are a real mixed bag, with a big thread dedicated to transmission problems & failure within the first several years, and other various build quality-problem threads. Sounds like when you buy one, it is a potluck special on whether you get a decent one or a bad one. Same with the Honda HR-V.
more failure and more trans problems = more money
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:04 PM   #63
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The technicians I was chatting with at the local Toyota dealer were telling me how much they hate the iA and that they have a lot of trans and electrical issues.
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:15 AM   #64
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The technicians I was chatting with at the local Toyota dealer were telling me how much they hate the iA and that they have a lot of trans and electrical issues.
its a pretty crummy car, i test drove a 2016 when i was buying my 2015 yaris and its really all flash and stuff. the dealer wanted 18 grand for it, got it, floored it and it went like stink. its a good car for an older person or a teenage driver like a girl or something but outside of that, it doesnt have the same potential as the liftbacks do. smaller cramped engine bay, uncofortable seats, soft wiggly ride, ass that bounces all over the place.
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:01 AM   #65
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its a pretty crummy car, i test drove a 2016 when i was buying my 2015 yaris and its really all flash and stuff. the dealer wanted 18 grand for it, got it, floored it and it went like stink. its a good car for an older person or a teenage driver like a girl or something but outside of that, it doesnt have the same potential as the liftbacks do. smaller cramped engine bay, uncofortable seats, soft wiggly ride, ass that bounces all over the place.
Haters. Lol

Have had a 2011 M2 hatch for 6 years. Was a great reliable car, plenty power to get it moving. Auto transmission wasn't great, so was the Yaris 4AT.

I can't wait to see how a new M2/Yaris HB with 6MT performs. I know the GDI engine is kind of a let down...

I'm eyeing a 2020 Corolla HB base 6MT ;)

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Haters. Lol

Have had a 2011 M2 hatch for 6 years. Was a great reliable car, plenty power to get it moving. Auto transmission wasn't great, so was the Yaris 4AT.

I can't wait to see how a new M2/Yaris HB with 6MT performs. I know the GDI engine is kind of a let down...

I'm eyeing a 2020 Corolla HB base 6MT ;)

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ew 4 doors, i will never own a 4 door anything,
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:15 PM   #67
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ew 4 doors, i will never own a 4 door anything,
You obviously will never have kids.

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no it its because i had a 4 door and it was useless and people would bother me for rides. literally became a trash pile.


its why a bus has 50 seats and a performance car has 2, its lonley at the top :P
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also, 3 doors are better performance vehicles, two less doors means a stiffer chassis. everyone just wants 4 doors because we live in america and everyones busy and has a family.

also the new corolla hatch is ugly, like fat whale blob ugly.
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Old 03-11-2019, 04:19 PM   #70
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also, 3 doors are better performance vehicles, two less doors means a stiffer chassis. everyone just wants 4 doors because we live in america and everyones busy and has a family.

also the new corolla hatch is ugly, like fat whale blob ugly.
Also to the insurance companies, 4 door means you're responsible. 2 door means you have a death wish.... judging by their premiums on 2 door economy cars
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everyone just wants 4 doors because we live in america
Seriously!
If your above "leaked" photo is to be realized, then that iteration marks the first ever Vitz 3 door. The 3 door Echo and Yaris we have are in fact a North American phenomenon. Count the doors made available to the rest of the world. It is not 3. 4 doors is global, not "American".

As for the insurance statement, that is so untrue. An insurance company cannot make a willy nilly decision to surcharge a 2 door variant of a 4 door.


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Personally, I don't really care if a car is a 4-door or 2-door because I don't have any kids or passengers, nor don't I plan to - so my rear seat is nothing more than cargo area for groceries during the hot summer A/C months (& 4 doors is easier to access it) I do think that the side profile on the 4-door Yaris hatch looks better than that of the 2-door hatch though, so I'm glad the SE came as a 4 door. I also don't tend to drive like I'm being chased by the police, so I don't think the chassis strength between the two versions is significant enough to worry about in my case.
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