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Old 03-29-2014, 09:25 PM   #1
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How do these spark plugs look to you ?

Had them changed out at Toyota service center while in for suspension work . Replaced with DENSO SK16R11 plugs at $8.99 each . Car was idling rough , so had them replaced , seems no better . The tech lost one of the nuts for the engine cover and will likely have to order one at $2.35 . Here are pictures of used plugs at NGK , http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_su...qs/faqread.asp . Which one looks close to these ? Don't look that healthy to us .
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:27 PM   #2
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I needed to replace the nuts myself a few times. I just purchased them at local hardware with the correct thread and have done fine. NO worrying about ordering any. Just a thought.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:34 PM   #3
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Check Spark Plug Condition

Looks like you could have a mixture of a couple conditions there.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:37 PM   #4
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Those plugs don't look bad for 73K miles.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:40 PM   #5
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I like how ash fouled and worn are the same image....

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Old 03-29-2014, 11:31 PM   #6
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Check Spark Plug Condition

Looks like you could have a mixture of a couple conditions there.
What two conditions are you referring too? Is that with the NGK pics ? I was thinking that the PCV may be not working properly. Maybe I will clean it out or get a new one. Thanks
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:18 AM   #7
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I needed to replace the nuts myself a few times. I just purchased them at local hardware with the correct thread and have done fine. NO worrying about ordering any. Just a thought.
Thanks , but I expect to get it back the way it went in with all the parts . It's less than $2.50 . They're going to try to locate it , if not , hopefully a new one through parts .
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:38 PM   #8
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seafoam

looks like a candidate for a Seafoam cleaning at the Intake manifold. Did wonders for my 200k mile new beetle.
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Old 03-30-2014, 06:02 PM   #9
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Seafoam ...does really work ? I did my plugs at aground 140km and they looked clean nothing like urs ....also did u clean ur throttle body mine was dirty would stick and caused bad ideal , easy to do just make sure u have key on and someone on the throttle pedal when cleaning or ur get we'll May engine light .


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Old 03-31-2014, 11:00 AM   #10
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Little wear but lots of carbon. Any oil consumption? Is this short trip driving? If so, this car needs some hwy driving or Italian tuneup.
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:06 AM   #11
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Like Scott said with over 70k the results are not bad per se. Personally I would verify after 15-20k more miles how new ones look just for due diligence sake.

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Old 03-31-2014, 10:45 PM   #12
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Little wear but lots of carbon. Any oil consumption? Is this short trip driving? If so, this car needs some hwy driving or Italian tuneup.
No oil consumption . Usually 50 or more miles per drive on urban roads , interstate and some city . Did use some Chevron Techron for the tank before removal of the NGK and install of the new Denso , probably around 300 miles of driving of Techron on the NGK .
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:53 PM   #13
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More pics of NGK the plugs .
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They are OK. Just gap them and put them back in for another 200,000k miles.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:33 AM   #15
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More pics of NGK the plugs .
Are these the same plugs as the OP? They look much better in this picture indeed.
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Old 04-01-2014, 12:31 PM   #16
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Yes , these are the NGK IFR5A11 installed at the factory .
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:28 PM   #17
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Got the nut in the mail and put it on . The car is still idling a bit rough . Oh well .
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:05 PM   #18
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Have you cleaned the TB and checked the engine mounts?
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