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Midon · 09-22-2009, 05:19 PM

as long as they were designed to work with our VVT-i and self adjust when the ecu send the signal it shouldn't throw a CEL. ever thing can be made better if they made it work with the stock cam they can make a better one and it will still work if made right.

JayTee09 · 09-23-2009, 04:03 AM

^^thats true. I just hope that the demand for these will be great enough to make the work worth it. I would love to see some Cams for the 1nz.

jt258 · 09-23-2009, 10:05 AM

thats why we need to rally up enough people to so mike will want to put these cams into production. im pretty sure that we will need more than thirty people to make this work.

JayTee09 · 09-23-2009, 07:13 PM

we need to bring in some of the scion guys, some one should go on a good will mission to a couple of the scion forums.

lilredrocket · 09-23-2009, 08:37 PM

I have posted this on Scionlife and on microimageonline fourms and I think all together its at 20 people. The cams that NST sells now for other motors work with VVT-i so that is not a problem. I just don't think this is going to happen unless I win the lottery and donate the money for the R&D

severous01 · 09-23-2009, 10:29 PM

$70 per hp is still not worth it. that's ridiculous.

and i can install all my own parts. it's no prob for me...

i guess im just not used to the expense and 'power gains' of these imports and smaller engines. i guess i should be looking at percentages and not power gains. i did gain 10% power on headers for camaro, and another 10% for cam, but then again, we're talkin 35-40 hp each...seems more worth while.

lilredrocket · 09-23-2009, 10:41 PM

If we were to get 10hp out of mild cams that is a 10% gain for us so that would be the same right? Stock car with a manual tranny are putting down 90 whp on the dynos but with I/H/E/Pulley some people are spending up to that much and not seeing those kinds of gains.

minired5stby · 09-23-2009, 11:59 PM

Count me in too on the list of intrest

rob323 · 09-24-2009, 05:27 PM

Some definite interest from myself as well. On the assumption that they will work equally in a 1NZ-FE Echo motor (no reason why they shouldn't). I would be curious as to whether they free up the top end some more and whether there is any benefit to raising the rev limit from the factory setting. I would also be interested to know whether the ramp angles require heavier valve springs or whether the factory ones suffice up to the factory rev limit.

lilredrocket · 09-24-2009, 05:35 PM

Buy going off the cams that NST already produces their cams provide gains through out the whole RPM range and are a direct bolt in meaning not extra mods will be nessecary.

rob323 · 09-24-2009, 05:46 PM

Gotcha.

I understand that no other mods are needed if the factory rev limit is retained, but then there is the what if question. If the power is still increasing at the factory rev limit, then an increase in rev limit through aftermarket management may provide additional top end power and give you a more flexible engine to work with when changing gears, especially to those of us with the "Economy" final drive ratios in our gearboxes.

lilredrocket · 09-24-2009, 06:15 PM

Well I know CTscott has found a way to get rid of the speed limiter he may be able to raise the rev limiter but then you will be looking at gettin stiffer valve springs. As far as knowing if they will keep making power at the rev limiter is a long ways away R&D needs to happen before that and there has to be enough intrest to start that. That does not mean stop with the questions I am gathering these to turn over to Mike if there is anything that he wants to add and I know he stops in every once in a while so he would be able to help out too. I might give it one more week to see if anyone else is interested then let him know the count.

jt258 · 09-24-2009, 07:22 PM

Even though these cams are designed to work with the stock computer i would like to know what the intake and exhaust lift and duration of these cams would be.

just curious to know.

lilredrocket · 09-24-2009, 07:25 PM

I know that you are but none of this will be figured out until the R&D is started

jt258 · 09-25-2009, 12:27 AM

TRUE

Yoda · 09-26-2009, 07:01 PM

just saw this an count me in .

crxgames · 10-03-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTee09

we need to bring in some of the scion guys, some one should go on a good will mission to a couple of the scion forums.

I'm an xB guy and I come here for "performance" 1nz reading. Few scion guys attempt to push the 1nz anywhere except for the few that bolt on a premade turbo kit (there are always a few exceptions though...).

But if you wanna try another site, hit up clubxb.com.

I'm definitely watching this.

t0m4s · 10-03-2009, 05:06 PM

interested!

09-22-2009, 05:19 PM	#37
Midon Mod Freak Drives: 88 MR2 GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gainesville, TX Posts: 147	as long as they were designed to work with our VVT-i and self adjust when the ecu send the signal it shouldn't throw a CEL. ever thing can be made better if they made it work with the stock cam they can make a better one and it will still work if made right. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3160999

09-23-2009, 08:37 PM	#41
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	I have posted this on Scionlife and on microimageonline fourms and I think all together its at 20 people. The cams that NST sells now for other motors work with VVT-i so that is not a problem. I just don't think this is going to happen unless I win the lottery and donate the money for the R&D __________________

09-23-2009, 10:41 PM	#43
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	If we were to get 10hp out of mild cams that is a 10% gain for us so that would be the same right? Stock car with a manual tranny are putting down 90 whp on the dynos but with I/H/E/Pulley some people are spending up to that much and not seeing those kinds of gains. __________________

09-24-2009, 05:35 PM	#46
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	Buy going off the cams that NST already produces their cams provide gains through out the whole RPM range and are a direct bolt in meaning not extra mods will be nessecary. __________________

09-24-2009, 06:15 PM	#48
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	Well I know CTscott has found a way to get rid of the speed limiter he may be able to raise the rev limiter but then you will be looking at gettin stiffer valve springs. As far as knowing if they will keep making power at the rev limiter is a long ways away R&D needs to happen before that and there has to be enough intrest to start that. That does not mean stop with the questions I am gathering these to turn over to Mike if there is anything that he wants to add and I know he stops in every once in a while so he would be able to help out too. I might give it one more week to see if anyone else is interested then let him know the count. __________________

09-23-2009, 04:03 AM	#38
JayTee09 4dr=FTW View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 107	^^thats true. I just hope that the demand for these will be great enough to make the work worth it. I would love to see some Cams for the 1nz.

09-23-2009, 10:05 AM	#39
jt258 View User's Garage Drives: 10' corolla ce Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: HOUSTON Posts: 106	thats why we need to rally up enough people to so mike will want to put these cams into production. im pretty sure that we will need more than thirty people to make this work.

09-23-2009, 07:13 PM	#40
JayTee09 4dr=FTW View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 107	we need to bring in some of the scion guys, some one should go on a good will mission to a couple of the scion forums.

09-23-2009, 10:29 PM	#42
severous01 Drives: 2008 yaris, stripped, red Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SE Texas Posts: 977	$70 per hp is still not worth it. that's ridiculous. and i can install all my own parts. it's no prob for me... i guess im just not used to the expense and 'power gains' of these imports and smaller engines. i guess i should be looking at percentages and not power gains. i did gain 10% power on headers for camaro, and another 10% for cam, but then again, we're talkin 35-40 hp each...seems more worth while.

09-23-2009, 11:59 PM	#44
minired5stby View User's Garage Drives: Yaris S liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 759	Count me in too on the list of intrest

09-24-2009, 05:27 PM	#45
rob323 Don't drive it, RALLY it! Drives: 1999 echo PRC rally car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Joyner, Brisbane Posts: 321	Some definite interest from myself as well. On the assumption that they will work equally in a 1NZ-FE Echo motor (no reason why they shouldn't). I would be curious as to whether they free up the top end some more and whether there is any benefit to raising the rev limit from the factory setting. I would also be interested to know whether the ramp angles require heavier valve springs or whether the factory ones suffice up to the factory rev limit.

09-24-2009, 05:46 PM	#47
rob323 Don't drive it, RALLY it! Drives: 1999 echo PRC rally car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Joyner, Brisbane Posts: 321	Gotcha. I understand that no other mods are needed if the factory rev limit is retained, but then there is the what if question. If the power is still increasing at the factory rev limit, then an increase in rev limit through aftermarket management may provide additional top end power and give you a more flexible engine to work with when changing gears, especially to those of us with the "Economy" final drive ratios in our gearboxes.

09-24-2009, 07:22 PM	#49
jt258 View User's Garage Drives: 10' corolla ce Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: HOUSTON Posts: 106	Even though these cams are designed to work with the stock computer i would like to know what the intake and exhaust lift and duration of these cams would be. just curious to know.

09-24-2009, 07:25 PM	#50
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	I know that you are but none of this will be figured out until the R&D is started __________________

09-25-2009, 12:27 AM	#51
jt258 View User's Garage Drives: 10' corolla ce Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: HOUSTON Posts: 106	TRUE

09-26-2009, 07:01 PM	#52
Yoda Drives: 2008 Black Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Posts: 966	just saw this an count me in .

10-03-2009, 05:06 PM	#54
t0m4s 1NZ-FE View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Seddan 08 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Panama Posts: 220	interested! __________________ . DC Sports Header, Vibrant Hi-Flow Cat, Round Magnaflow Muffler, Vibrant Tip, Dunlop Direzza 195/50 Rims 15", Injen Technologies Cold Air Intake, NST CR-Lite crank, waterpump & alternator pulleys, Tanabe NF210 Springs, NST SSK 1 & 2, NST Shifter Cable & Cage Bushing Kit, Nitto Engine Torque Damper

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