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[bronsin]

Also I think its pretty clear a lot of the drugs dont work.

Lets take cancer for instance.

In 1950 the survival rate for cancers of all kinds was 50%.

Today, quoting medicine, its "as much as 60%."

Note "as much as" doesnt mean its 60%. Those are weasel words in other words.

Considering the billions (trillions?) of dollars spent on cancer "research" a 10% rate of improvement (and clearly its not 10%, its less than that. Probably a LOT less!) is failure.

But dont take my word for it that is also in the NYT.

[goliath1812]

I hate cancer, and yes it should of course be beaten by now with all of the fundraising. I don't believe that much of the money raised even goes towards finding a cure though, I believe most of it goes towards advertising and making more (newer) drugs to sell back to the patients. Unfortunately.

Sad how people have beaten cancer by changing their diet, yet something that simple doesn't get looked at by medical professionals because it wont make them any money.

I did however just read about new research that shows some promise. They are testing giving a strain of HIV to terminal cancer patients, which actually seems so far to fight the cancer cells pretty well.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by goliath1812

And Nook, congrats with your recovery, when i say "the american way", it is of course not intended for every single american out there. There are a lot of people adopting a healthy lifestyle. But when the majority of doctors find a problem, they throw a script at you instead of trying to fix the underlying problem, and most people are happy with that. Give me drugs so i get "better". I think it's wrong, and kudos to you as well, but it just keeps happening. As long as doctors keep the perscription pads flowing, and the people are happy going to the pharmacy, nothing is going to change.

I agree with you...and just losing weight would help with a lot of the things people take scripts to 'help' with.....but taking the script is easier . IMO, in an overall sense, the only beneficial 'side effect/consequence' of 'Obamacare' is that some people (who need to) are 'waking up' re costs and care.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Also I think its pretty clear a lot of the drugs dont work.

Lets take cancer for instance.

In 1950 the survival rate for cancers of all kinds was 50%.

Today, quoting medicine, its "as much as 60%."

Note "as much as" doesnt mean its 60%. Those are weasel words in other words.

Considering the billions (trillions?) of dollars spent on cancer "research" a 10% rate of improvement (and clearly its not 10%, its less than that. Probably a LOT less!) is failure.

But dont take my word for it that is also in the NYT.

Still, in the past, one might go bankrupt re the bills but would still have the best chance of surviving in the United States. Will this still be the case in the future? If things continue to go in the direction Ezekiel Emanuel wants them to, I doubt the U.S. will be the 'best hope'.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by goliath1812

I hate cancer, and yes it should of course be beaten by now with all of the fundraising. I don't believe that much of the money raised even goes towards finding a cure though, I believe most of it goes towards advertising and making more (newer) drugs to sell back to the patients. Unfortunately.

And to paying peoples salaries for doing those things....

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

And to paying peoples salaries for doing those things....

....somewhat along this same vein.....I don't like it when CVS, Safeway, etc are soliciting customers for charitable donations. They don't do it out of any altruism (at least Safeway doesn't,as they have had conflicts with unions over this). They do it because they take the tax deduction, a revenue driver for them. Sometimes when I say no, I explain that if I'm going to make a donation, I want undisputed rights to the tax deduction. I've actually had a few cashiers tell me that I can take the tax deduction. When I tell them that the IRS doesn't allow the same deduction to be claimed twice and that I don't want any conflict, I usually get a look that tells me I might as well be speaking Hungarian or Finnish I especially don't like an electronic record (that can be sold) of my 'saying' no to the donation.