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hatchbackkid82 · 04-17-2009, 01:52 PM

Anyone know if we can install one of these in our cars? I know the honda guys use the VAFC(controls VTEC engagement point and Air Fuel Ratio). I've seen a couple of other cars use the SAFC, that weren't Hondas. Anyone know?

eTiMaGo · 04-17-2009, 01:58 PM

in theory yes, it could be used to alter the ECU's behavior in open loop mode (i.e. with the pedal to the metal), but in regular closed-loop mode it may cause havoc...

t0m4s · 04-22-2009, 06:13 PM

i've heard that you need an FPR (Fuel Pressure Regulator) to do this mod? it's that true? i think it's to regulate the mix of air/fuel but i dont know

jouna · 04-22-2009, 07:55 PM

i have a couple of friends that own echos and xrs and they have the apex and they work the vvti fine but haven't seen it on a yaris computer yet. personally imma have to go with the emanage ultimate' bit harder to install and to work with it but the results are awesome.

or you could just buy a camcon which is made for controlling the vvti

RHDVIPbB · 04-23-2009, 12:25 AM

Not sure why you would need a fpr, but then again I had my SAFC on an 87 Conquest TSi. I have thought about the camcon one though. I think the SAFC would be good only to those with a turbo or sc, but then you would probably already be going with Emanage which is a lot easier to use. If you had to do a budget build then I could see using an SAFC.

t0m4s · 04-23-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jouna

i have a couple of friends that own echos and xrs and they have the apex and they work the vvti fine but haven't seen it on a yaris computer yet. personally imma have to go with the emanage ultimate' bit harder to install and to work with it but the results are awesome.

or you could just buy a camcon which is made for controlling the vvti

in camcon page doesnt list the yaris seddan ncp93

jouna · 04-23-2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t0m4s

in camcon page doesnt list the yaris seddan ncp93

i googled and found this for the camcon...

http://images.google.com.pr/imgres?i...%3D2%26hl%3Des
hope it helps

t0m4s · 04-23-2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jouna

i googled and found this for the camcon...

http://images.google.com.pr/imgres?i...%3D2%26hl%3Des
hope it helps

this is what i'm telling you

1nz · 04-24-2009, 07:11 AM

use the ncp91, they're similar and just to share, i installed a camcon on my ncp93 and evnthough it was able to adjust my a/f as when i set all to 10% the a/f wnt to 10.4a/f and power dropped from 98 to 94 but increasing the power was like impossible with the camcon not sure why thats why i installed the emanage ultimate instead will tune it next week and see the result

t0m4s · 04-24-2009, 01:04 PM

keep us update

04-17-2009, 01:52 PM	#1
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	SAFC-II Anyone know if we can install one of these in our cars? I know the honda guys use the VAFC(controls VTEC engagement point and Air Fuel Ratio). I've seen a couple of other cars use the SAFC, that weren't Hondas. Anyone know?

04-17-2009, 01:58 PM	#2
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	in theory yes, it could be used to alter the ECU's behavior in open loop mode (i.e. with the pedal to the metal), but in regular closed-loop mode it may cause havoc... __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

04-22-2009, 06:13 PM	#3
t0m4s 1NZ-FE View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Seddan 08 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Panama Posts: 220	i've heard that you need an FPR (Fuel Pressure Regulator) to do this mod? it's that true? i think it's to regulate the mix of air/fuel but i dont know __________________ . DC Sports Header, Vibrant Hi-Flow Cat, Round Magnaflow Muffler, Vibrant Tip, Dunlop Direzza 195/50 Rims 15", Injen Technologies Cold Air Intake, NST CR-Lite crank, waterpump & alternator pulleys, Tanabe NF210 Springs, NST SSK 1 & 2, NST Shifter Cable & Cage Bushing Kit, Nitto Engine Torque Damper

04-23-2009, 12:25 AM	#5
RHDVIPbB Right beside you, wave Drives: 08 PBM Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 742	Not sure why you would need a fpr, but then again I had my SAFC on an 87 Conquest TSi. I have thought about the camcon one though. I think the SAFC would be good only to those with a turbo or sc, but then you would probably already be going with Emanage which is a lot easier to use. If you had to do a budget build then I could see using an SAFC. __________________ 2008 Toyota Yaris Sedan. Pacific Blue Mica. Custom vinyl eyebrows, color matched interior trim pieces, Vios lip spoiler, 17" Maas rims 2010 Scion xB 7.0 Release Series. 1535 of 2000. Murasaki. Stock with TRD springs.

04-24-2009, 07:11 AM	#9
1nz Drives: Vios Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brunei Posts: 82	use the ncp91, they're similar and just to share, i installed a camcon on my ncp93 and evnthough it was able to adjust my a/f as when i set all to 10% the a/f wnt to 10.4a/f and power dropped from 98 to 94 but increasing the power was like impossible with the camcon not sure why thats why i installed the emanage ultimate instead will tune it next week and see the result __________________ Please visit us @: greddyvios.blogspot.com

04-22-2009, 07:55 PM	#4
jouna Drives: jdm yaris sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: bayamon puerto rico Posts: 433	i have a couple of friends that own echos and xrs and they have the apex and they work the vvti fine but haven't seen it on a yaris computer yet. personally imma have to go with the emanage ultimate' bit harder to install and to work with it but the results are awesome. or you could just buy a camcon which is made for controlling the vvti

04-24-2009, 01:04 PM	#10
t0m4s 1NZ-FE View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Seddan 08 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Panama Posts: 220	keep us update __________________ . DC Sports Header, Vibrant Hi-Flow Cat, Round Magnaflow Muffler, Vibrant Tip, Dunlop Direzza 195/50 Rims 15", Injen Technologies Cold Air Intake, NST CR-Lite crank, waterpump & alternator pulleys, Tanabe NF210 Springs, NST SSK 1 & 2, NST Shifter Cable & Cage Bushing Kit, Nitto Engine Torque Damper

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