Yaris Oil Change DIY - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

sbergman27 · 02-28-2010, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilD424

Damn 5W20? Thats wayyy to thin. Even so with 5W30. I personally wouldn't use anything less then 10W30, atleast for the kind of driving we do in NYC.

5w30 is considerably thicker at 0F than it is at 200F. Just not by as much as a straight weight oil. Why do you think that it needs to be *even thicker* when cold, but don't seem concerned about 5w30 at normal operating temperature. In practice, the lower the first number the better. It's the second number that is really significant. Personally, I don't see the point in 10w30. It just takes longer to flow and makes the car harder to start in cold weather.

At any rate, Toyota says 5w30. Some engines, Yaris' included, use the engine oil as hydraulic fluid to do certain things. (Yaris' vvt-i engine uses it to control the valve timing.) So messing around with non-spec viscosities *can* have unintended consequences.

Use what the filler cap recommends.

Hard_Yaris · 03-02-2010, 01:29 PM

I want to know what the Deal is with the FRAM oil filters?

Problems or just a personal preference?

Happy Little Pony · 03-02-2010, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard_Yaris

I want to know what the Deal is with the FRAM oil filters?

Problems or just a personal preference?

If I may be so bold as to offer my opinion:

The cheapest Fram filters (the "orange can") have gotten a bad reputation. It may be deserved or it may not. There are plenty of anecdotal stories of Frams letting people down, but anecdotes are not proof that Fram's are any more prone to failure than any other cheapie brand. The main point of contention seems to surround the use of paper-like fiber end caps on the filter element instead of something more substantial (like, you know, METAL!). The more expensive Fram models seem to be made a little more stout and you don't hear as many complaints about them.

I've used Frams in the past, there are millions of cars on the road using them now, and, if I couldn't obtain anything else, I wouldn't have a problem using one today. But they are way down on my list.

From Amazon, I can get Purolator Pure One's for about $4.75 or Denso for $3.94. Better filters for about the same price.

R2D2 · 09-06-2009, 10:22 AM

Nice write up! This needs to be a sticky.

Just FYI prefilling filters (or not) is one of those eternal polarizing arguements-I'm not even going to go there just be clean about it!
Anything in the center tube is heading for the bearings unfiltered so don't let any crud in there.

65mm 14 flute cap style filter wrench on a 3/8 ratchet works great for the Yaris.

R2

Yaris Hilton · 09-06-2009, 12:43 PM

I've never prefilled filters. Never saw anybody else do it, either, only certain somewhat OC people who've written online instructions.

It just takes a few seconds for the oil pump to fill it and the gauge pressure comes right up. The residual lubrication in the engine that was just shut down carries it through that.

RedRide · 09-06-2009, 01:45 PM

Yes. Most service depts and local garages do not prefill a filter.
While it is a good thing to do no harm will come to an engine if you don't.

As Yaris Hilton said, it only takes a couple of seconds for it to fill and oil pressur to build up.

Just don't redline it the second you start it and it will be fine.

TXyaris · 08-12-2011, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRide

Yes. Most service depts and local garages do not prefill a filter.
While it is a good thing to do no harm will come to an engine if you don't.

As Yaris Hilton said, it only takes a couple of seconds for it to fill and oil pressur to build up.

Just don't redline it the second you start it and it will be fine.

damn.. thats what i always do! lol

biggyjiggy · 07-18-2012, 07:33 PM

just did my first oil change on my yaris :) since ive had it. Thank you very much for the write up it helped alot :)

AlexNet0 · 09-06-2009, 01:56 PM

I would recommend against using a band filter clamp there is almost no room for that. I would recommend cap style as R2D2 said above.

Quote:

65mm 14 flute cap style filter wrench on a 3/8 ratchet works great for the Yaris.

bronsin · 09-08-2009, 09:16 AM

If you turn the oil filter in the direction you indicate in your illustration to loosen it you will tighten it instead.

yarisitis · 10-08-2009, 10:27 AM

I'm going to be doing an oil change on my Yaris today or tomorrow and I want to get something clear before, kinda dumb question...

The drain plug is the one circled in red right?

Better safe than sorry.

Altitude · 10-08-2009, 11:46 AM

^^ Yes.

bronsin · 10-08-2009, 12:37 PM

Excellent!

Lazerdot · 10-08-2009, 02:43 PM

FYI, don't qoute me..., but If I remember correctly my Amsoil monthly info a couple months ago said something about Toyota going either 0w20, or 5w20 recommended in 2010 or 2011 cars. Evedently for better mileage. I'll try to find the info.

yarisitis · 10-11-2009, 06:33 PM

Oops, I put in too much oil than I should have...I think, reading the damn dipstick, as easy as it sounds, is a pain because one side has the oil at the full level and the other side has it way above the full level. It's pretty misleading so I don't know if I over filled it or not.

Are there any real consequences (drop in MPG, bad for the engine?) from this or will it be fine?

It should be fine as long as I don't get any checking engine lights or oil pressure lights coming on right?

rningonfumes · 10-11-2009, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarisitis

Oops, I put in too much oil than I should have...I think, reading the damn dipstick, as easy as it sounds, is a pain because one side has the oil at the full level and the other side has it way above the full level. It's pretty misleading so I don't know if I over filled it or not.

Are there any real consequences (drop in MPG, bad for the engine?) from this or will it be fine?

It should be fine as long as I don't get any checking engine lights or oil pressure lights coming on right?

Still within the dots but towards the higher end? Can you take a pic?

yarisitis · 10-12-2009, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rningonfumes

Still within the dots but towards the higher end? Can you take a pic?

On one side it's all the way to the dot marking full, and on the other side it's way beyond the full dot.

I'll try taking a picture tomorrow so you can actually see.

yaris-me · 10-11-2009, 10:40 PM

Install a Fumoto valve in the drain hole, then oil changing is easier and if you over fill, you can drain a little to the correct level.

09-06-2009, 10:22 AM	#4
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	Nice write up! This needs to be a sticky. Just FYI prefilling filters (or not) is one of those eternal polarizing arguements-I'm not even going to go there just be clean about it! Anything in the center tube is heading for the bearings unfiltered so don't let any crud in there. 65mm 14 flute cap style filter wrench on a 3/8 ratchet works great for the Yaris. R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

10-08-2009, 02:43 PM	#14
Lazerdot View User's Garage Drives: Blazing Blue 08 liftback Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Euless Texas Posts: 241	FYI, don't qoute me..., but If I remember correctly my Amsoil monthly info a couple months ago said something about Toyota going either 0w20, or 5w20 recommended in 2010 or 2011 cars. Evedently for better mileage. I'll try to find the info. __________________ One Year One Oil-AMSOIL at www.Trulube.com TRD Exhaust, Springs and Struts. TRD SSK. NST Underdrive Crank Pulley. Amsoil Dominator 10w-30 Racing Oil, Amsoil DOT4 brake fluid, Amsoil Severe Gear 75w-90 transmission oil, Ultra Racing 23mm Sway Bar, Camber Bolts, R1 Drilled Slotted front Brakes and SS Brake cables from Micro-Image. Orange Konig Daylight 17s, Kumo MXs. Greg@TruLube.com

10-11-2009, 06:33 PM	#15
yarisitis Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 165	Oops, I put in too much oil than I should have...I think, reading the damn dipstick, as easy as it sounds, is a pain because one side has the oil at the full level and the other side has it way above the full level. It's pretty misleading so I don't know if I over filled it or not. Are there any real consequences (drop in MPG, bad for the engine?) from this or will it be fine? It should be fine as long as I don't get any checking engine lights or oil pressure lights coming on right? Last edited by yarisitis; 10-11-2009 at 08:25 PM.

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