Rear Sway Bar? - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Cosmonaut · 09-30-2010, 01:20 AM

you know when you turn fast and the car feels top heavy and feels like it wants to tip over well this bar does a great job of removing that sensation.
also experiment with your tire pressures to fit your driving comfort.

install one unless your an old lady who doesnt care how the car drives, then dont.
i have the 19mm. i thought about doing the 23mm but decided not to. overall the 19mm is more than enough for street driving.
and btw i have all completely stock suspension no mods other than the sway bar.

yariseggvvti · 09-30-2010, 04:29 AM

you dont have to lower or change the shocks. I have UR set up in my car. Start with front UR upper Front Strut Bar, ebay lower tie bar(blue color), ebay(blue color) Middle Lower Bar,ebay rear support bar(bue color). UR rear sway bar(23mm), rear upper strut bar,UR Rear Lower Bar. Finally ebay cabin Bars(in front of the rear seat).

After all these bars install and makes a big diff. NO need to lower or spend extra money for something else you dont need.

All these bars are good enough on the street and making sharp turns.

One last thing good to invest on is the stainless brake lines. Now the Yaris brake is stiff than the Bimmer.

SimTronik · 09-30-2010, 10:17 PM

Great, thanks for all your replys... So a rear sway bar and maybe a front strut bar should be in my prior list ? Could this help for lateral wind issues too? I Have now a yaris sedan 2010 cuz my 2009 completely passed out last winter.

(After two car hitted the rear, i had time to get out before the bing bang)

So everything can make my driving more efficient and safer, i'll take it)

RedRide · 09-30-2010, 11:24 PM

Yes, most report that it makes the Yaris more stable in cross winds.

*kimona* · 10-01-2010, 12:41 AM

Holy shit! That '09 is a wreck!

Best thing I did for highway instability... wheels and the right tyres.

PumpkinSteve · 10-01-2010, 04:00 PM

Can anyone in Europe tell me the best place to buy the TRD sway bar? I'm in the UK, I've found one seller on Ebay US who ships worldwide but I'd prefer to order from mainland Europe if possible.

yariseggvvti · 10-01-2010, 08:39 PM

Great, thanks for all your replys... So a rear sway bar and maybe a front strut bar should be in my prior list ? Could this help for lateral wind issues too? I Have now a yaris sedan 2010 cuz my 2009 completely passed out last winter.

(After two car hitted the rear, i had time to get out before the bing bang)

So everything can make my driving more efficient and safer, i'll
take it)

Looks like you must get a Roll-cage is better. Yeah, the strut bar

and rear sway(23mm) bar make a big big different of the
handling.

The money you spent on in worth a bunch, better those muffler.

Muffler just sounds like all show no go.

SimTronik · 10-01-2010, 08:45 PM

Haha roll- cage...
Nah it was a snowy and really f**** windy night with minimum visibility and i should have stay home.
I just hitted the side of the road. Car is wreck cuz of a pickup who didnt mind of the temperature and was going full speed.
Anyways... I still can walk. Back to subject.

So lets go for those sway bar and front strut.

yariseggvvti · 10-01-2010, 08:51 PM

Also, the MEGAN TOYOTA YARIS 07+ LOWER REAR REAR LOWER TIE BAR selling on ebay. These bars will helps a bit too. little bit adds up its going to be a lot. The Ualtraracing bars are expensive, but you are going to love it.

SimTronik · 10-01-2010, 10:04 PM

Yeah i just seen it on ebay thanks for the info. (micro image have real better price tho)
Whats the difference between a rear sway bar and a rear lower strut brace ?

yariseggvvti · 10-02-2010, 01:58 AM

Don't really know which rear lower strut brace you talking about. The shocks and spring for yaris in the rear is separate. You might talking about the lower brace bar..right under where the spring seats on.

I had install rear sway bar and rear brace bar. the different is sway bar goes to the lower beam and brace bar goes the chassis. All the bars help the car stiff up when it making a turn. No body roll and just take the turn flat in and flat out.

SimTronik · 10-02-2010, 05:47 AM

was talking about this http://shop.microimageonline.com/NIT...ace-RSB-01.htm vs a rear sway bar. Which one is more efficient and should be installed first.. for a everyday driver....

why? · 10-02-2010, 11:00 AM

do the rear sway bar first. Everyone who has done it says it has a gigantic impact on handling.

djct_watt · 10-02-2010, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimTronik

was talking about this http://shop.microimageonline.com/NIT...ace-RSB-01.htm vs a rear sway bar. Which one is more efficient and should be installed first.. for a everyday driver....

The brace is ineffective for sway/roll reduction without a proper sway bar. What it does is just create massive toe out under heavy cornering (heavy oversteer). It maintains the same horizontal distance between the two suspension points, but does not maintain the same loads, due to the pivots. It's absolutely useless without a sway bar. Just try jacking up one side and you'll see how much out of whack the toe can get with that useless thing. I have it.

Unfortunately, TRD of Japan does not have the Yaris/Vios sway bar available, and the only manufacturer is Ultra-Racing.

SimTronik · 10-03-2010, 12:16 AM

Thanks,
last question would be: do you have to install front strut bar and rear sway bar at the same time because it would unbalance or if you start with the front strut bar it doesnt matter. (Hope this sound clear, english isn't my first language)

djct_watt · 10-03-2010, 12:37 AM

Front strut bars have minimal impact. When your suspension is made of marshmallows, your suspension compresses looooooong before your chassis flexes. And because the Yaris strut bars are so close to the firewall, they already have relatively little flex.

The inherent handling problems are due to a soft suspension, which really isn't a problem until you start cornering, and the car rolls. This can be fixed with a higher spring rate suspension, or band-aid fixed with a stiff sway bar. IMO, for street use, sway bars are the way to go.

why? · 10-03-2010, 02:17 AM

trd is just overpriced. The UR sway bar is probably better in every way, plus less expensive.

ddongbap · 10-03-2010, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djct_watt

The brace is ineffective for sway/roll reduction without a proper sway bar. What it does is just create massive toe out under heavy cornering (heavy oversteer). It maintains the same horizontal distance between the two suspension points, but does not maintain the same loads, due to the pivots. It's absolutely useless without a sway bar. Just try jacking up one side and you'll see how much out of whack the toe can get with that useless thing. I have it.

Unfortunately, TRD of Japan does not have the Yaris/Vios sway bar available, and the only manufacturer is Ultra-Racing.

Toe out does not equal oversteer. Thats rotation yo.

09-30-2010, 01:20 AM	#19
Cosmonaut The Last Baron View User's Garage Drives: 09 Polar White HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sanentoneyow, Tecksis Posts: 280	you know when you turn fast and the car feels top heavy and feels like it wants to tip over well this bar does a great job of removing that sensation. also experiment with your tire pressures to fit your driving comfort. install one unless your an old lady who doesnt care how the car drives, then dont. i have the 19mm. i thought about doing the 23mm but decided not to. overall the 19mm is more than enough for street driving. and btw i have all completely stock suspension no mods other than the sway bar. __________________ Sanction this outbreak, a Virus conspires. Single sparks are Spectral Fires! \| UR 19mm sway \|

10-02-2010, 11:00 AM	#31
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	do the rear sway bar first. Everyone who has done it says it has a gigantic impact on handling. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

10-03-2010, 02:17 AM	#35
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	trd is just overpriced. The UR sway bar is probably better in every way, plus less expensive. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

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09-30-2010, 04:29 AM	#20
yariseggvvti Drives: Yaris Hatchieback Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 199	you dont have to lower or change the shocks. I have UR set up in my car. Start with front UR upper Front Strut Bar, ebay lower tie bar(blue color), ebay(blue color) Middle Lower Bar,ebay rear support bar(bue color). UR rear sway bar(23mm), rear upper strut bar,UR Rear Lower Bar. Finally ebay cabin Bars(in front of the rear seat). After all these bars install and makes a big diff. NO need to lower or spend extra money for something else you dont need. All these bars are good enough on the street and making sharp turns. One last thing good to invest on is the stainless brake lines. Now the Yaris brake is stiff than the Bimmer.

09-30-2010, 10:17 PM	#21
SimTronik Machinist View User's Garage Drives: Yaris sedan 2010 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sts-Anges, Quebec, canada Posts: 198	Great, thanks for all your replys... So a rear sway bar and maybe a front strut bar should be in my prior list ? Could this help for lateral wind issues too? I Have now a yaris sedan 2010 cuz my 2009 completely passed out last winter. (After two car hitted the rear, i had time to get out before the bing bang) So everything can make my driving more efficient and safer, i'll take it)

09-30-2010, 11:24 PM	#22
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,501	Yes, most report that it makes the Yaris more stable in cross winds.

10-01-2010, 12:41 AM	#23
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	Holy shit! That '09 is a wreck! Best thing I did for highway instability... wheels and the right tyres.

10-01-2010, 04:00 PM	#24
PumpkinSteve Drives: Yaris SR 1.8 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tyne and Wear, UK Posts: 54	Can anyone in Europe tell me the best place to buy the TRD sway bar? I'm in the UK, I've found one seller on Ebay US who ships worldwide but I'd prefer to order from mainland Europe if possible.

10-01-2010, 08:39 PM	#25
yariseggvvti Drives: Yaris Hatchieback Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 199	Great, thanks for all your replys... So a rear sway bar and maybe a front strut bar should be in my prior list ? Could this help for lateral wind issues too? I Have now a yaris sedan 2010 cuz my 2009 completely passed out last winter. (After two car hitted the rear, i had time to get out before the bing bang) So everything can make my driving more efficient and safer, i'll take it) Looks like you must get a Roll-cage is better. Yeah, the strut bar and rear sway(23mm) bar make a big big different of the handling. The money you spent on in worth a bunch, better those muffler. Muffler just sounds like all show no go.

10-01-2010, 08:45 PM	#26
SimTronik Machinist View User's Garage Drives: Yaris sedan 2010 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sts-Anges, Quebec, canada Posts: 198	Haha roll- cage... Nah it was a snowy and really f**** windy night with minimum visibility and i should have stay home. I just hitted the side of the road. Car is wreck cuz of a pickup who didnt mind of the temperature and was going full speed. Anyways... I still can walk. Back to subject. So lets go for those sway bar and front strut.

10-01-2010, 08:51 PM	#27
yariseggvvti Drives: Yaris Hatchieback Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 199	Also, the MEGAN TOYOTA YARIS 07+ LOWER REAR REAR LOWER TIE BAR selling on ebay. These bars will helps a bit too. little bit adds up its going to be a lot. The Ualtraracing bars are expensive, but you are going to love it.

10-01-2010, 10:04 PM	#28
SimTronik Machinist View User's Garage Drives: Yaris sedan 2010 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sts-Anges, Quebec, canada Posts: 198	Yeah i just seen it on ebay thanks for the info. (micro image have real better price tho) Whats the difference between a rear sway bar and a rear lower strut brace ?

10-02-2010, 01:58 AM	#29
yariseggvvti Drives: Yaris Hatchieback Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 199	Don't really know which rear lower strut brace you talking about. The shocks and spring for yaris in the rear is separate. You might talking about the lower brace bar..right under where the spring seats on. I had install rear sway bar and rear brace bar. the different is sway bar goes to the lower beam and brace bar goes the chassis. All the bars help the car stiff up when it making a turn. No body roll and just take the turn flat in and flat out.

10-02-2010, 05:47 AM	#30
SimTronik Machinist View User's Garage Drives: Yaris sedan 2010 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sts-Anges, Quebec, canada Posts: 198	was talking about this http://shop.microimageonline.com/NIT...ace-RSB-01.htm vs a rear sway bar. Which one is more efficient and should be installed first.. for a everyday driver....

10-03-2010, 12:16 AM	#33
SimTronik Machinist View User's Garage Drives: Yaris sedan 2010 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sts-Anges, Quebec, canada Posts: 198	Thanks, last question would be: do you have to install front strut bar and rear sway bar at the same time because it would unbalance or if you start with the front strut bar it doesnt matter. (Hope this sound clear, english isn't my first language)

10-03-2010, 12:37 AM	#34
djct_watt Drives: 2010 NCP91 5spd Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Thailand Posts: 449	Front strut bars have minimal impact. When your suspension is made of marshmallows, your suspension compresses looooooong before your chassis flexes. And because the Yaris strut bars are so close to the firewall, they already have relatively little flex. The inherent handling problems are due to a soft suspension, which really isn't a problem until you start cornering, and the car rolls. This can be fixed with a higher spring rate suspension, or band-aid fixed with a stiff sway bar. IMO, for street use, sway bars are the way to go.