Ultra Racing 23mm Rear Stabilizer Bar - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

kngrsll · 04-26-2009, 09:18 PM

sweeeeeet!! the g/f is buying a 23mm rear sway bar for my birthday :) :) :)

Klinton · 04-27-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kngrsll

sweeeeeet!! the g/f is buying a 23mm rear sway bar for my birthday :) :) :)

sounds like a great lady!!!

fuji · 04-28-2009, 04:06 AM

I just ordered mine. Might have to beef up the front later!

Loren · 04-28-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fuji

I just ordered mine. Might have to beef up the front later!

We seem to be missing the "banging head against wall" smiley. So, you'll have to use your imagination and picture me banging my head against the wall now.

CtrlAltDefeat · 04-28-2009, 03:55 PM

justjesus · 04-28-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren

We seem to be missing the "banging head against wall" smiley. So, you'll have to use your imagination and picture me banging my head against the wall now.

yup yup.

Good write up / driver's impression.

detroiter · 04-30-2009, 11:55 AM

I'm curious how your driving experience has been since it's been some time from installing your Ultra Racing bar, any updates since you've had some seat time with it?

Loren · 04-30-2009, 12:03 PM

I work from home, so I don't put a lot of miles on the car. Since the last update that I made Sunday, I've driven the car exactly once. Nothing new to report. I like it, it works for me, not much more to say.

The more I drive with it, the more I'm going to get used to it. I don't expect I'll have anything more to add. The initial impressions were the most relevant things I could tell you, and that is past. I'd have to change the car back to the way it was before in order to give that same level of comparison again.

I'll post up after I actually do an autocross in full-competition mode and review that aspect.

CompanyXPaladin · 04-30-2009, 12:36 PM

I just got my 19mm bar 6 weeks ago - now I want the 23mm bar.. Curse you, Loren!

Nice review - thanks for the write-up.

detroiter · 04-30-2009, 12:49 PM

I see what you mean. Well thank you for what you have contributed so far, looks like my TRD bar might be a thing of the past and will look to the future with a UR one

CtrlAltDefeat · 04-30-2009, 01:12 PM

So the UR 23mm seems to be better then the 19mm TRD... wonder if that's because of the tighter fitting of the UR or the size. When I bought my UR Sway bar only the 19mm was available unfortunately, and I wonder how much of a difference it would have been with the 23mm... any thoughts, Loren?

Loren · 04-30-2009, 01:40 PM

"Better" is relative to what you expect from it and what else you've done to your suspension. For the average street driver with an otherwise stock or near stock suspension, the 19mm bar is probably all you really need.

The 23mm is "better" for me not because of the tightness of fitment, that is purely incidental and in no way effects how the bar works. It's better for my needs because it is a larger diameter and therefore stiffer. Being stiffer, it does everything that a rear stabilizer bar does to a greater degree, which is good for the kind of competition driving that I do.

"How much difference" between the 19 and 23mm bars? 4 millimeters! I can't quantify it any more than that. I've already reviewed it in comparison to the TRD 19mm bar on MY car, that's all I can do, man.

Will a 23mm bar be "better" for you? I can't answer that. I will say this, however... I subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" principle. With the stock suspension, the body roll is awful and a 19mm bar fixes that. The problem *I* was fighting was understeer in a competition environment. The 23mm bar did a better job of fixing THAT problem. If you're not having that problem, then you don't need to fix it.

CtrlAltDefeat · 04-30-2009, 03:36 PM

hmm ok well my ultimate goal in the future is to buy a DD and turn my current Yari into a track car. I would have liked to have gotten a 23mm and not have to buy the same part twice, but my then maybe I'll need a new one (i think they lose their stiffness after a while, right?) If not I'll see if I truly need it by then...

Loren · 04-30-2009, 03:52 PM

Um, no, they don't lose their stiffness after a while.

CtrlAltDefeat · 04-30-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren

Um, no, they don't lose their stiffness after a while.

oh ok... I figured like the chassis itself, it would lose it's stiffness after a while

RagnaCaT · 05-01-2009, 10:13 PM

I got a question will sway bar relief the rear wobble I get sometimes in the highway at speed around 70mph? normaly it's on windy days, wide turns and well highway stuff..

Loren · 05-02-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RagnaCaT

I got a question will sway bar relief the rear wobble I get sometimes in the highway at speed around 70mph? normaly it's on windy days, wide turns and well highway stuff..

Yep.

PHXDEMON · 05-03-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RagnaCaT

I got a question will sway bar relief the rear wobble I get sometimes in the highway at speed around 70mph? normaly it's on windy days, wide turns and well highway stuff..

It won't elmininate but it helped mine out a lot (19mm UR sway bar)

04-26-2009, 09:18 PM	#37
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	sweeeeeet!! the g/f is buying a 23mm rear sway bar for my birthday :) :) :) __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

04-28-2009, 03:55 PM	#41
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	__________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

04-30-2009, 12:03 PM	#44
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	I work from home, so I don't put a lot of miles on the car. Since the last update that I made Sunday, I've driven the car exactly once. Nothing new to report. I like it, it works for me, not much more to say. The more I drive with it, the more I'm going to get used to it. I don't expect I'll have anything more to add. The initial impressions were the most relevant things I could tell you, and that is past. I'd have to change the car back to the way it was before in order to give that same level of comparison again. I'll post up after I actually do an autocross in full-competition mode and review that aspect. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

04-30-2009, 01:12 PM	#47
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	So the UR 23mm seems to be better then the 19mm TRD... wonder if that's because of the tighter fitting of the UR or the size. When I bought my UR Sway bar only the 19mm was available unfortunately, and I wonder how much of a difference it would have been with the 23mm... any thoughts, Loren? __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

04-30-2009, 01:40 PM	#48
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	"Better" is relative to what you expect from it and what else you've done to your suspension. For the average street driver with an otherwise stock or near stock suspension, the 19mm bar is probably all you really need. The 23mm is "better" for me not because of the tightness of fitment, that is purely incidental and in no way effects how the bar works. It's better for my needs because it is a larger diameter and therefore stiffer. Being stiffer, it does everything that a rear stabilizer bar does to a greater degree, which is good for the kind of competition driving that I do. "How much difference" between the 19 and 23mm bars? 4 millimeters! I can't quantify it any more than that. I've already reviewed it in comparison to the TRD 19mm bar on MY car, that's all I can do, man. Will a 23mm bar be "better" for you? I can't answer that. I will say this, however... I subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" principle. With the stock suspension, the body roll is awful and a 19mm bar fixes that. The problem I was fighting was understeer in a competition environment. The 23mm bar did a better job of fixing THAT problem. If you're not having that problem, then you don't need to fix it. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

04-28-2009, 04:06 AM	#39
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	I just ordered mine. Might have to beef up the front later!

04-30-2009, 11:55 AM	#43
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	I'm curious how your driving experience has been since it's been some time from installing your Ultra Racing bar, any updates since you've had some seat time with it?

04-30-2009, 12:36 PM	#45
CompanyXPaladin Drives: 08 Yaris 5-speed Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 212	I just got my 19mm bar 6 weeks ago - now I want the 23mm bar.. Curse you, Loren! Nice review - thanks for the write-up.

04-30-2009, 12:49 PM	#46
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	I see what you mean. Well thank you for what you have contributed so far, looks like my TRD bar might be a thing of the past and will look to the future with a UR one

04-30-2009, 03:36 PM	#49
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	hmm ok well my ultimate goal in the future is to buy a DD and turn my current Yari into a track car. I would have liked to have gotten a 23mm and not have to buy the same part twice, but my then maybe I'll need a new one (i think they lose their stiffness after a while, right?) If not I'll see if I truly need it by then... __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

04-30-2009, 03:52 PM	#50
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	Um, no, they don't lose their stiffness after a while. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

05-01-2009, 10:13 PM	#52
RagnaCaT HacKers WanTed! View User's Garage Drives: Yaris S HB & Yaris S SD Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Villalba, Puerto Rico Posts: 435	I got a question will sway bar relief the rear wobble I get sometimes in the highway at speed around 70mph? normaly it's on windy days, wide turns and well highway stuff.. __________________ *R-CaT* Project Yar 2ZR

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