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Old 06-26-2014, 03:15 AM   #55
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I didnt do any alignement at all and I had install adjustable front sway link too. I dont see or feel any problem to aliigment. I think those tech are b.s about aligments. it costs 150 each time.
Well it's true that after install and lowering, it neither pulls to one side nor tilts the wheel, which I guess is a good sign. And I can't tell for sure, but the Yaris seems more confident holding the front end at turns, at the same time feeling like the steering wheel is a bit more compliant, though sluggish, if you get what I mean. I'm pretty sure that the front camber and toe could be adjusted a bit to reflect the drop, if only to assign some quantifiable before/after parameters and be absolutely sure that there's nothing uneven going on.

And after reading Tamago's writeup

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14026

I'd be interested in adding a touch more toe-in and negative camber over stock, if they're not at that spot already. And if I feel a little adventurous, I'll try that flat washer shimming on the bolts between rear hubs and axles to get my rear toe and camber set. Those, after all, can be reset to "defaults" without needing the shop's rack, right?

Sure, it's only 1 1/2" (38 mm) of lowering, but I only intend to make up to 1/2" (13 mm) of adjustment up or down anyway. Assuming this logic works, if the alignment is set to my "midway" height -- the parameters of which you can bet will be recorded for future reference -- there should be no real need for realignment afterwards, as long as I stay within that +/- 1/2" of adjustment. Not like I'll miss anything far below or above that.

And the place I'm having it done at will let me dictate some last minute adjustments of my own while the thing's up on their lift. $102 gets all that done, and for quite some time afterwards I doubt I'll need it redone.

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Old 06-26-2014, 08:41 AM   #56
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And thanks to microimage resources

http://microimageonline.com/forums/s...TECH-TSB-FILES
More specifically http://www.microimageonline.com/down...Suspension.pdf starting at page SP-59 (pdf file page 61)

I can visualise the axles' mounting plates and bolt patterns without even having to jack my car up.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:49 AM   #57
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Lol headlights ...I have been meaning to do same after I lowered my Yaris

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Well, this walks you right through it.

http://www.microimageonline.com/down...s/Lighting.pdf

Starting at page LI-88 (pdf page 89)
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:55 AM   #58
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And hey Garm. Like Yoda, but wiser and more powerful you are.

Thanks for managing pretty much everything I need to know about my car.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:44 AM   #59
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And thanks to microimage resources

http://microimageonline.com/forums/s...TECH-TSB-FILES
More specifically http://www.microimageonline.com/down...Suspension.pdf starting at page SP-59 (pdf file page 61)

I can visualise the axles' mounting plates and bolt patterns without even having to jack my car up.
Thanks a lot for diggin this up, I totally forgot about the MI PDF section I'm gonna have to do more research on the alignment stuff... I don't know if it's to the car, tires, or what the heck. I have to change my two front tires soon as they are rotting.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:55 AM   #60
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Wait I don't get it. Something wrong with your ride, vaironl?
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:03 AM   #61
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Wait I don't get it. Something wrong with your ride, vaironl?

Sorry I typed that message in a rush. Right now my two front tires are rotting (actually since I got the car), so I have to change those.but after lowering the car I keep hearing the need to do an alignment after about a week or two. I'm just not sure if it's for the tires or the car itself or what the hell it's for. Let's keep in mind this is literary the first time I'm doing this so a lot of research must be done.


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Old 06-26-2014, 11:02 AM   #62
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Most if not all posts I've been reading suggest 1 week/200km to "settle", then get the alignment done. Mine happens this Saturday.

As for rotting, wow. Are the tires that old?
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:34 AM   #63
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Most if not all posts I've been reading suggest 1 week/200km to "settle", then get the alignment done. Mine happens this Saturday.

As for rotting, wow. Are the tires that old?

I guess so, it was a car with around 27k miles on it. I don't know why but I have the feeling it might better to wait a bit more just in case (2-3 weeks)


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Old 06-26-2014, 11:43 AM   #64
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I've already logged an extra 250 km (150 miles) since the installation. That does not play well with my OCD
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:21 PM   #65
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Put some new tires just today. This thread got me wondering and found a good place with low prices, I did get some really cheap tires called milestar, but the older ones were dry rotting (just learned that today) and had the risk of popping any time on me.
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hehe, you're welcome. Don't forget, you only need a FRONT alignment -- don't let them charge you for a four wheel alignment. Nothing to adjust back there.

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Old 06-27-2014, 08:45 AM   #67
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In fact, all the shops I asked were fairly up front (pardon the pun) about it. When I asked them if they were willing to use some washers I'd provide to have them do rear camber and toe, they said it really would use up their time, because that involves removing everything that bolts to the axle every time they need to adjust with another washer. A tech's time isn't cheap, and I respect that.

I think I'll try to figure out the rear settings myself after the front alignment is done. If the rear torsion bar's camber/toe are hard-set, I can't imagine any difficulty getting back to those settings by simply removing all washers.

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Old 06-27-2014, 03:37 PM   #68
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Put some new tires just today. This thread got me wondering and found a good place with low prices, I did get some really cheap tires called milestar, but the older ones were dry rotting (just learned that today) and had the risk of popping any time on me.
What tire size?
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Old 06-27-2014, 04:10 PM   #69
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What tire size?

195/60/r15 rear(new tires) 185/60/r15 in the front. I didn't even check at the shop :/ just asked for cheap tires. I also got a bit desperate and bought the tokicos from MI today lol. You guys wont even want to know the talk I had to go through with my mom.


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Old 06-27-2014, 04:19 PM   #70
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Well, different tire sizes don't lend themselves well to tire rotations. That's why I don't want to stagger, nor get directionals. I'm on a budget, too.

Good on you though for getting the shocks before the springs, and not the other way around.

Is it the mom's ownership or yours?
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Old 06-27-2014, 04:26 PM   #71
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Well, different tire sizes don't lend themselves well to tire rotations. That's why I don't want to stagger, nor get directionals. I'm on a budget, too.

Good on you though for getting the shocks before the springs, and not the other way around.

Is it the mom's ownership or yours?

Moms but I have to pay for everything lol.


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Old 06-27-2014, 04:29 PM   #72
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Sorry to hear that. So you've got all the expenses, all the responsibility, AND all the nagging and criticism?

Pretty tough, man. I've felt your pain.
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