Has anyone checked with a paint shop to see if a clearcoat can be added...... - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

death is my gift · 07-18-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by grampi

I would be shocked if the Yaris doesn't have clearcoat on it. Every car I know of built within the last 10 years or so has had clearcoat.

Ah, good to know. Learning is fun.

sherryberry · 07-18-2007, 03:33 PM

that's what i thought too but why are people sayin there is no clearcoat?

death is my gift · 07-18-2007, 03:36 PM

Cuz like me they were misinformed? Don't really know.

brickhardmeat · 07-18-2007, 05:13 PM

Yes there is a layer of clear coat on the car.

sherryberry · 07-18-2007, 05:30 PM

brick comes to the rescue!

Meteorite Man · 07-18-2007, 05:38 PM

That plastic wrap stuff sure does distort the Yaris.

Chuck

Meteorite Man · 07-18-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sherryberry

brick comes to the rescue!

A real fine gentleman he is.

Just watch how fast he can get your pussy out of the tree.

Chuck

death is my gift · 07-18-2007, 05:41 PM

So, why not put more than one layer of a clear coat?

brickhardmeat · 07-18-2007, 06:26 PM

I am not certain that there is only one layer of clear but there can't be much. Why? Cost.

I had a scratch on my bumper probably bumped a tool installing struts or it happened pulling stuff in and out of the hatch area. It ws -very- easy to remove with Scratch X. Took me about 2 min. and it vanished.

churp · 07-18-2007, 08:36 PM

Brick and Grampi are right, there is a clearcoat....just not a durable one. Best to talk to a good bodyshop about what's best. I vote for a good 2 part urethane....read an article when they first came out, street rodders were using it on frames and suspension components, they could actually beat on the frame after it was cured with a hammer and not leave marks....very tough. And the thinner the layer of paint the better!!!

grampi · 07-19-2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brickhardmeat

I am not certain that there is only one layer of clear but there can't be much. Why? Cost.

I had a scratch on my bumper probably bumped a tool installing struts or it happened pulling stuff in and out of the hatch area. It ws -very- easy to remove with Scratch X. Took me about 2 min. and it vanished.

The problem in doing that is you're basically using an abrasive to remove some or all of the clearcoat (depending on how deep the scratch is) surrounding the damaged area so you no longer see the scratch. Not only is a very thin clearcoat being used by the auto makers to save money, they obviously aren't using the most durable stuff either. I'll let you guys know what I find out about having the entire front end and hood done up with the good stuff by a paint shop.

brickhardmeat · 07-19-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by grampi

The problem in doing that is you're basically using an abrasive to remove some or all of the clearcoat (depending on how deep the scratch is) surrounding the damaged area so you no longer see the scratch. Not only is a very thin clearcoat being used by the auto makers to save money, they obviously aren't using the most durable stuff either. I'll let you guys know what I find out about having the entire front end and hood done up with the good stuff by a paint shop.

There is still some clear there and I'll give it a thick coat of wax. The scratch wasn't bad. Yes these products create many fine scratches to make the larger scratch fade disappear. You should see the underside of my front bumper. There is no saving that.

grampi · 07-19-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brickhardmeat

There is still some clear there and I'll give it a thick coat of wax. The scratch wasn't bad. Yes these products create many fine scratches to make the larger scratch fade disappear. You should see the underside of my front bumper. There is no saving that.

If all the color is still there, you may be able to save it with a good coat of some good clearcoat.

brickhardmeat · 07-19-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by grampi

If all the color is still there, you may be able to save it with a good coat of some good clearcoat.

No bottom of the bumper has been scraped profusely. No paint left just plastic. Doesn't show.

grampi · 07-19-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brickhardmeat

No bottom of the bumper has been scraped profusely. No paint left just plastic. Doesn't show.

Oh, how'd that happen?

brickhardmeat · 07-19-2007, 04:42 PM

driveways mostly

Imagine · 07-20-2007, 10:24 AM

Two types of paint is used in painting cars usually.. Base coat / Clear coat and Enamel. Enamel does not get cleared. I don't know of any manufacturer that doesn't use base coat/ clear coat. I'm not a professional body man, just do the stuff for fun but I don't see any reason why you couldn't lay a couple of coats over the stock. Just wet sand the stock clear and spray a couple coats of more durable clear coat. You'd be amazed how much better good clear would make the paint look too.

thatboyjer · 07-23-2007, 05:38 PM

i just wash my car at the neighborhood wash, high pressure rinse, foam brush (which i thouroughly clean first with the HP rinse), high pressure rinse again, clearcoat protective wax, Spot free rinse, air dry by driving around.

End result? car looks great and i don't get any of those swirly looking scratchs from drying the car with a cloth. I hit all sorts of debris while driving to work on the dirt roads for 15+ miles in the mornings but the paints really holding up still looks great.

i think it all depends on maintenence.

07-18-2007, 03:36 PM	#21
death is my gift wacky broadway nightmare View User's Garage Drives: Willow is a '07 Red Yaris LB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: dallas Posts: 621	Cuz like me they were misinformed? Don't really know. __________________ "it's always complicated and at some point someone has to draw the line and that is always going to be me. you get down on me for cutting myself off but in the end the slayer is always cut off" Buffy

07-18-2007, 05:13 PM	#22
brickhardmeat Lonesome Cowboy View User's Garage Drives: 2007 WHITE HATCHBACK Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Inner City, Dallas Posts: 2,995	Yes there is a layer of clear coat on the car. __________________ SPONSORED BY

07-18-2007, 05:38 PM	#24
Meteorite Man Passin' The Gas...Station Drives: Same As You But Different Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Taunton, Mass Posts: 266	That plastic wrap stuff sure does distort the Yaris. Chuck __________________ MY Gas Station Attendant Misses Me... Chuck

07-18-2007, 05:41 PM	#26
death is my gift wacky broadway nightmare View User's Garage Drives: Willow is a '07 Red Yaris LB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: dallas Posts: 621	So, why not put more than one layer of a clear coat? __________________ "it's always complicated and at some point someone has to draw the line and that is always going to be me. you get down on me for cutting myself off but in the end the slayer is always cut off" Buffy

07-18-2007, 06:26 PM	#27
brickhardmeat Lonesome Cowboy View User's Garage Drives: 2007 WHITE HATCHBACK Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Inner City, Dallas Posts: 2,995	I am not certain that there is only one layer of clear but there can't be much. Why? Cost. I had a scratch on my bumper probably bumped a tool installing struts or it happened pulling stuff in and out of the hatch area. It ws -very- easy to remove with Scratch X. Took me about 2 min. and it vanished. __________________ SPONSORED BY

07-18-2007, 03:33 PM	#20
sherryberry Drives: 07 Blazing Blue Yaris Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,305	that's what i thought too but why are people sayin there is no clearcoat?

07-18-2007, 05:30 PM	#23
sherryberry Drives: 07 Blazing Blue Yaris Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,305	brick comes to the rescue!

07-18-2007, 08:36 PM	#28
churp Clean and (dis)Functional View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2dr--Black Betty Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tropical Minnesota Posts: 562	Brick and Grampi are right, there is a clearcoat....just not a durable one. Best to talk to a good bodyshop about what's best. I vote for a good 2 part urethane....read an article when they first came out, street rodders were using it on frames and suspension components, they could actually beat on the frame after it was cured with a hammer and not leave marks....very tough. And the thinner the layer of paint the better!!! __________________ ____________ Old School Cobble Jockey

07-19-2007, 04:42 PM	#34
brickhardmeat Lonesome Cowboy View User's Garage Drives: 2007 WHITE HATCHBACK Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Inner City, Dallas Posts: 2,995	driveways mostly __________________ SPONSORED BY

07-20-2007, 10:24 AM	#35
Imagine Insert sarcasm here. View User's Garage Drives: 2009 Black Pearl Sand 3Dr Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 241	Two types of paint is used in painting cars usually.. Base coat / Clear coat and Enamel. Enamel does not get cleared. I don't know of any manufacturer that doesn't use base coat/ clear coat. I'm not a professional body man, just do the stuff for fun but I don't see any reason why you couldn't lay a couple of coats over the stock. Just wet sand the stock clear and spray a couple coats of more durable clear coat. You'd be amazed how much better good clear would make the paint look too.

07-23-2007, 05:38 PM	#36
thatboyjer Drives: 5spd 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: texas Posts: 143	i just wash my car at the neighborhood wash, high pressure rinse, foam brush (which i thouroughly clean first with the HP rinse), high pressure rinse again, clearcoat protective wax, Spot free rinse, air dry by driving around. End result? car looks great and i don't get any of those swirly looking scratchs from drying the car with a cloth. I hit all sorts of debris while driving to work on the dirt roads for 15+ miles in the mornings but the paints really holding up still looks great. i think it all depends on maintenence.

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