Lighten weight. (HB)

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

Ever heard of "stock class", asswipe? <--- your word.

understandable, im sure 9 out of 10 members here WILL NOT, ever embark in any race with this vehicle. if you want to do that buy a car thats MEAN'T to be on track. the very small aftermarket support for this vehicle does not allow it to be taken past a stock class etc..

yes i know theres turbo kits, supercharger kits... still doesn't make this a track vehicle straight off the lot. for the price of a brand new yaris, you can purchase a few years old 350z,s2000,even an evo and sti. which are actually mean't to be tracked or daily driven. with ungodly amounts of aftermarket support.

I am by no means trashing this car, because i own as well and i really enjoy it, but i know where it stands on a performance realm. technically speaking a bone stock honda cr-x would do circles on track against a yaris, due to the power weight ratio, and if not probably a $1,000 in suspension and tires which is more easily obtainable will ensure that.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

understandable, im sure 9 out of 10 members here WILL NOT, ever embark in any race with this vehicle. if you want to do that buy a car thats MEAN'T to be on track. the very small aftermarket support for this vehicle does not allow it to be taken past a stock class etc..

Yeah, outside of a stock class the Yaris has no chance: http://speedcasttv.com/#/races/283

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

Yeah, outside of a stock class the Yaris has no chance: http://speedcasttv.com/#/races/283

is that supposed to make me quiet up? any car can go across a track 50mph... once again as i said, im not knocking the car i love mine, but its not a race car and was never mean't to be a race car.

[12 yaris]

You are correct the Yaris is not a high perfomance car,there just basic transportation
for the average Joe who needs a well built car with Toyota's reliability.
If I still wanted a gas guzzeling performance car I would have kept my impractical
Vette.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

is that supposed to make me quiet up? any car can go across a track 50mph... once again as i said, im not knocking the car i love mine, but its not a race car and was never mean't to be a race car.

No, just further shows the ignorance/arrogance behind your posts. There are not too many cars on the street that are meant to be a racecar, but that rarely prevents people from modifying and racing them.

[cali yaris]

but its not a race car and was never mean't to be a race car.

He doesn't get it. It's ok. Enjoy your mileage and pre-formed opinions.

Look up the Vitz one-class race in Japan, which has existed, oh since they DESIGNED THE CAR?

[broody]

The Echo hatchback was the ultimate/last driver's car 10 years ago.

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by 12 yaris

You are correct the Yaris is not a high perfomance car,there just basic transportation
for the average Joe who needs a well built car with Toyota's reliability.
If I still wanted a gas guzzeling performance car I would have kept my impractical
Vette.

exactly

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

No, just further shows the
ignorance/arrogance behind your posts. There are not too many cars on the street that are meant to be a racecar, but that rarely prevents people from modifying and racing them.

There aren't?????? what are evos, STI's,M3s,srt4,Volkswagen GTI,vettes,mustangs,camaros, lexus ISF etc... the list goes on. Trying to beef up a car, thats mean't to be a great with fuel and safety standards, that has no race inspired aerodynamics, motor, drivetrain,suspension, is not only going to cost a fortune but is absolutely ridiculous and pointless.

just go buy a car similar to what i listed and it'll not only cost a fraction of what it'll cost to make a yaris in any of those catergories.

Once again i think these cars are very eye catching and attractive, and with a few exterior mods, it'll look bad ass, but speed isn't something i even thought of when i bought this car a month ago point blank.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

There aren't?????? what are evos, STI's,M3s,srt4,Volkswagen GTI,vettes,mustangs,camaros, lexus ISF etc... the list goes on. Trying to beef up a car, thats mean't to be a great with fuel and safety standards, that has no race inspired aerodynamics, motor, drivetrain,suspension, is not only going to cost a fortune but is absolutely ridiculous and pointless.

They are hopped up street cars. Not a single one of those has any track going gear on it. And oh yeah, the 3800lb Camaro on 20"s was made for the track.

Cars like the Porsche GT3 Cup, Dodge Viper ACR X and Ford FR500S/C are among the few rare factory built cars for the track.

[Chocobo87]

Stop hijacking my thread lol.

Thanks for the info guys.

My cabin isn't super quiet, but it is better than my Subaru STI. Do they make anything to make my cabin super quiet?

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

They are hopped up street cars. Not a single one of those has any track going gear on it. And oh yeah, the 3800lb Camaro on 20"s was made for the track.

Cars like the Porsche GT3 Cup, Dodge Viper ACR X and Ford FR500S/C are among the few rare factory built cars for the track.

why in the world would they put front and rear sway bars, struts, big brake kits on damn near all the models i listed??? those aren't for the track your saying ???

so your telling me YOUR shop yaris is capable of running with any cars i listed????

and i dont know where in the world did vipers, porsches, and ford FR500s and other cars in the higher end price range even mentioned in this topic? we're talking lower in the lower level car and your bringing cars that aren't even obtainable to the public in this discussion??? cmon now really ???

[broody]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

exactly







There aren't?????? what are evos, STI's,M3s,srt4,Volkswagen GTI,vettes,mustangs,camaros, lexus ISF etc... the list goes on. Trying to beef up a car, thats mean't to be a great with fuel and safety standards, that has no race inspired aerodynamics, motor, drivetrain,suspension, is not only going to cost a fortune but is absolutely ridiculous and pointless.

just go buy a car similar to what i listed and it'll not only cost a fraction of what it'll cost to make a yaris in any of those catergories.

Once again i think these cars are very eye catching and attractive, and with a few exterior mods, it'll look bad ass, but speed isn't something i even thought of when i bought this car a month ago point blank.

The point of racing a yaris or a Civic is that it will cost a fraction of the running cost of a 3000+ pounds car. And it will be slower, but more fun and nimble.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

why in the world would they put front and rear sway bars, struts, big brake kits on damn near all the models i listed??? those aren't for the track your saying ???

so your telling me YOUR shop yaris is capable of running with any cars i listed????

and i dont know where in the world did vipers, porsches, and ford FR500s and other cars in the higher end price range even mentioned in this topic? we're talking lower in the lower level car and your bringing cars that aren't even obtainable to the public in this discussion??? cmon now really ???

My truck has factory front and rear swaybars and big brakes, is it a racecar? Those are items on nearly every vehicle in production today, that is not race equipment.

Comparing what our purpose built racecar can do compared to stock street cars is pretty pointless. Given the same mods a car that starts with more power, better suspension and bigger tires will obviously be faster. The point was your dribble about the Yaris not being a racecar makes no more sense than the other cars you listed being "racecars", when they are simply street cars for a different market, not a single car you listed is prepared from the factory for the track.

The cars I listed, regardless of price, are factory racecars.

btw, just for fun, stock EVO MR 1:38.37 at Willow Springs. The fastest lap in our Yaris, 1:36.417.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...JGODEVm8FzKYtQ

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=2176871

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

exactly Once again i think these cars are very eye catching and attractive, and with a few exterior mods, it'll look bad ass, but speed isn't something i even thought of when i bought this car a month ago point blank.

Whoosh! as it goes overhead.

It';s a lot more fun driving a slow car fast thanit is driving a fast car slow. And the Yaris in stock form can still embarrass Mustang, Camaros, etc, on the twisties. A set of 205s instead of the stock 185s makes it even more fun!

Sad you missed out on this.

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

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also the yaris only does make 106 hp stock. its not exactly meant to be tracked. it's made for fuel economy with hp numbers like that

Hmmm... Would you regard the old MGB GT as a sports car? It certainly was marketed and used as one, but it weighed about the same as the Yaris and only had 95 hp, worse supension, and only got 28 mpg on the highway. Yeah - the Yaris could take that one any day.

And - for the record - everywhere else in the qworld but in the US, the iQ is a Toyota. Actually, not quite - in England it is marketed by Aston-Martin (yes, the James Bond car guys) as well. It's a little more dressed up, but it's an iQ

[cali yaris]

stock EVO MR 1:38.37 at Willow Springs. The fastest lap in our Yaris, 1:36.417.

Exactly. It's too bad the guy can't listen and learn something.

[AndreS123]

I'm considering going to light weight 14" wheels with 185/65r14 or 175/70r14 tires after my stockers are worn down. 80-90% of my driving is stop & go in a hilly area.

most likely these: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...ll&sort=Weight

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

My truck has factory front and rear swaybars and big brakes, is it a racecar? Those are items on nearly every vehicle in production today, that is not race equipment.

Comparing what our purpose built racecar can do compared to stock street cars is pretty pointless. Given the same mods a car that starts with more power, better suspension and bigger tires will obviously be faster. The point was your dribble about the Yaris not being a racecar makes no more sense than the other cars you listed being "racecars", when they are simply street cars for a different market, not a single car you listed is prepared from the factory for the track.

The cars I listed, regardless of price, are factory racecars.

btw, just for fun, stock EVO MR 1:38.37 at Willow Springs. The fastest lap in our Yaris, 1:36.417.

your pickup truck comes with front and rear sways, strut bars, and brembo brakes??? i honestly find that hard to believe.

not a single car i listed is prepared for the track ???? you must be smoking or drinking some good shit.... the evo and sti out of the box are ready for any track. whether it be drag, autocross, circuit or whatever floats your boat...

now your next response will be where are the times and what not?? no i don't have them i could get them easily but its not that serious...

and then your next comment will be ohh a evo and sti are just econo cars as well just with a turbo slapped on it.. Yes your right but they still are made for the track anyway you think it.

Originally Posted by SailDesign

Hmmm... Would you regard the old MGB GT as a sports car? It certainly was marketed and used as one, but it weighed about the same as the Yaris and only had 95 hp, worse supension, and only got 28 mpg on the highway. Yeah - the Yaris could take that one any day.

And - for the record - everywhere else in the qworld but in the US, the iQ is a Toyota. Actually, not quite - in England it is marketed by Aston-Martin (yes, the James Bond car guys) as well. It's a little more dressed up, but it's an iQ

i wouldn't regard the MGB GT anything... true it had similar weight and what not, there is no comparsion. that was not considered an econo car, if im correct it would some sort of a cult following, same as the yaris but i dont see any way of comparing the two as at all

As for the Aston martin IQ, i know thats not the name, but you are correct i recall reading about it. if i recall correctly they should be available to the US sometime soon.

Look to everyone on here im not trying to burst anyone's bubble. if you want to track your car, put a racing stripe on it and some big numbers on the doors then do so to each is own. i am entitled to my own opinion.

keep modding, keep tracking, and keep those Yaris looking fresh !!!