Question about wheel Offset - Toyota Yaris Forums

monoculusjoe · 08-31-2006, 09:16 PM

I'm getting some 16s and I need to know how deep of a lip I can get for these wheels before I get em. Thanks in advance peeps.

03Z33 · 09-01-2006, 01:33 AM

It all depends on your setup...

For stock height, stock camber you can run 7.5/8" width with as low as 35mm offset as long as you don't go wider than 195 tires. If you lower the car and dial in some negative front camber, you can easily go wider.

aeipee13 · 09-04-2006, 08:13 PM

what is the stock offset? also, can you run 16x7 offset 35 with like 205/50 rubber and be fine? lowered that is.

riceboy · 09-04-2006, 09:10 PM

Work wheels has a set of 16's with a 52mm lip.. that works out to 2+ inch lip... I'll see if I can find the model....

Keep in mind that big lips usually don't exist on smaller sized rims...

03Z33 · 09-04-2006, 10:18 PM

16x7 +35 is a good fit, and so are 205/50/16's but 205/45/16's are closer to stock diameter.

riceboy · 09-04-2006, 11:07 PM

correction it's a 58mm lip....

monoculusjoe · 09-05-2006, 11:11 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I have the TRD Sportivo suspension setup Springs shocks and struts. It lowered it about 1 and 1/8 inches. I was thinking of going 17's too but I still am convinced that the 1.5 liter won't be able to push em.

Is anyone runing 17's?

03Z33 · 09-06-2006, 09:21 AM

My 17's are actually lighter than the stock 15" steel wheels! As long as you chose a good quality lighter wheel it should be fine. With tires, the wheel and tire are ~2.5lbs heavier than stock (33lbs stock 15" steel vs. 35.5lbs. 17's)

Linkseal · 09-07-2006, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 03Z33

My 17's are actually lighter than the stock 15" steel wheels! As long as you chose a good quality lighter wheel it should be fine. With tires, the wheel and tire are ~2.5lbs heavier than stock (33lbs stock 15" steel vs. 35.5lbs. 17's)

How comes ur 17" tire are heavier than the Stock 15" tire, I thought 17" tires have less rubber material so they shouuld be lighter?

03Z33 · 09-07-2006, 03:03 AM

Doesn't work that way for a few reasons...

The lower profile tires require different steel belts (more of them) to stiffen up the side wall. Different brands of tires are also slightly heavier than others...

Also on my 17's I run a larger diameter and wider tire, 215/45/17 vs. 195/55/15, which requires more material, which makes it heavier. Most 215/45/17's are in the 20-23lb. range. Most 195/55/15's are in the 17-19lb. range.

You can actually purchase the same exact tire in the same size and it will weigh 2lbs less depending on how it is built! A perfect example is the Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 for the Lotus Elise, since the Elise is such a light car and it comes with the AD07 as the OEM tires, Lotus worked with Yokohama to "fine tune" the tire and formulated a specific tire for the car. They found that a lighter car behaves better with a tire which has a softer sidewall (less steel) since it conforms to the road surface better and grips better. This comes at a slight reduction in "load rating" but in the Elise's case this isn't a concern since the car is sooo light.

If you go to www.tirerack.com and look for the Advan Neova in OEM Elise sizes you'll notice they offer two different "specs" of the tire. In the specs you'll notice the "lotus OEM" spec is 2lbs lighter (and it uses the same rubber compound!)

Hope that helps clarify it?

08-31-2006, 09:16 PM	#1
monoculusjoe Drives: 07YarisVitzBadgingTRDsportivo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Jo Posts: 11	Question about wheel Offset I'm getting some 16s and I need to know how deep of a lip I can get for these wheels before I get em. Thanks in advance peeps. __________________ 07 Toyota Yaris (MonoculusJoe is... 86 Toyota MR2 ...JoJoAW11)

09-04-2006, 11:07 PM	#6
riceboy Drives: icebox Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CAN Posts: 1,003	correction it's a 58mm lip.... Last edited by riceboy; 12-17-2006 at 02:21 PM.

09-05-2006, 11:11 PM	#7
monoculusjoe Drives: 07YarisVitzBadgingTRDsportivo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Jo Posts: 11	Thanks for the feedback! I have the TRD Sportivo suspension setup Springs shocks and struts. It lowered it about 1 and 1/8 inches. I was thinking of going 17's too but I still am convinced that the 1.5 liter won't be able to push em. Is anyone runing 17's? __________________ 07 Toyota Yaris (MonoculusJoe is... 86 Toyota MR2 ...JoJoAW11)

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09-01-2006, 01:33 AM	#2
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	It all depends on your setup... For stock height, stock camber you can run 7.5/8" width with as low as 35mm offset as long as you don't go wider than 195 tires. If you lower the car and dial in some negative front camber, you can easily go wider.

09-04-2006, 08:13 PM	#3
aeipee13 DKDC Drives: Yarlet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: los angeles Posts: 200	what is the stock offset? also, can you run 16x7 offset 35 with like 205/50 rubber and be fine? lowered that is.

09-04-2006, 09:10 PM	#4
riceboy Drives: icebox Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CAN Posts: 1,003	Work wheels has a set of 16's with a 52mm lip.. that works out to 2+ inch lip... I'll see if I can find the model.... Keep in mind that big lips usually don't exist on smaller sized rims...

09-04-2006, 10:18 PM	#5
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	16x7 +35 is a good fit, and so are 205/50/16's but 205/45/16's are closer to stock diameter.

09-06-2006, 09:21 AM	#8
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	My 17's are actually lighter than the stock 15" steel wheels! As long as you chose a good quality lighter wheel it should be fine. With tires, the wheel and tire are ~2.5lbs heavier than stock (33lbs stock 15" steel vs. 35.5lbs. 17's)

09-07-2006, 03:03 AM	#10
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	Doesn't work that way for a few reasons... The lower profile tires require different steel belts (more of them) to stiffen up the side wall. Different brands of tires are also slightly heavier than others... Also on my 17's I run a larger diameter and wider tire, 215/45/17 vs. 195/55/15, which requires more material, which makes it heavier. Most 215/45/17's are in the 20-23lb. range. Most 195/55/15's are in the 17-19lb. range. You can actually purchase the same exact tire in the same size and it will weigh 2lbs less depending on how it is built! A perfect example is the Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 for the Lotus Elise, since the Elise is such a light car and it comes with the AD07 as the OEM tires, Lotus worked with Yokohama to "fine tune" the tire and formulated a specific tire for the car. They found that a lighter car behaves better with a tire which has a softer sidewall (less steel) since it conforms to the road surface better and grips better. This comes at a slight reduction in "load rating" but in the Elise's case this isn't a concern since the car is sooo light. If you go to www.tirerack.com and look for the Advan Neova in OEM Elise sizes you'll notice they offer two different "specs" of the tire. In the specs you'll notice the "lotus OEM" spec is 2lbs lighter (and it uses the same rubber compound!) Hope that helps clarify it?