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89GLH · 12-31-2008, 06:58 PM

We all know you dont buy the car for the performance. Because as we all know, the car has NONE. If you think it does you're kidding yourself.

I was headed to work and the wind damn near knocked the car on 2 wheels. What tasteful kits have you put together that help that? I dont want to lose the warranty, but I do want a safer feeling car.

springs
shocks
coilovers
sway bars

33OH · 12-31-2008, 07:00 PM

You just listed what would help.

I lowered mine almost 2" (Tanabe DF210's) and it solved the problem.

$90 investment (used springs) and 2 hours time is all it took.

bdc87 · 12-31-2008, 07:05 PM

Wider wheels also help out.

cali yaris · 12-31-2008, 08:00 PM

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We all know you dont buy the car for the performance. Because as we all know, the car has NONE. If you think it does you're kidding yourself.

I would ask with due respect that you speak for yourself, and not for me. The car handles like a dream with minimal suspension upgrades. Additional power is available through several upgrade options.

Ask jkuchta, or 03Z33 or myself, who regularly keep up with most other cars at the track.

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springs
shocks
coilovers
sway bars

and tires!

Coilovers: review the "Coilover Thread"
Shocks: the two options are TRD and Tokico blue
Sway bars: TRD for the rear is the one to get - no need for a front sway bar on this car.
Springs: several choices, including Tanabe, Progress, H&R, Tein, etc. Searching will help.

thepoche · 12-31-2008, 08:34 PM

Get good tires with stiff sidewall. Thats what made a big difference for me in the highway winds.

I have coilovers and rear sway bar and when I put the soft winter tires on, I get knocked around by wind but with the good tires, I don't feel it.

Thirty-Nine · 12-31-2008, 08:39 PM

To the OP, the Yaris can be made to handle very well. It's forte isn't straight-line performance, but like cali_yaris said, it can be made better.

I've got Megan Racing coilovers, TRD rear swaybar, and some stickier tires. It helps a lot.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 12-31-2008, 08:49 PM

besides the usual spring/shock/swaybar ideas you could also invest in some braces from GT SPEC. im sure the usual asspaper's will tell you they DO NOTHING but if you come to one of our meets next year i'll take you for a ride.....

PetersRedYaris · 12-31-2008, 09:12 PM

I think he's right on that a new factory/unmodified Yaris has no performance what-so-ever. Well OK, performance fuel economy...

Thirty-Nine · 12-31-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

I think he's right on that a new factory/unmodified Yaris has no performance what-so-ever. Well OK, performance fuel economy...

Well we can all have our opinions, right?

Rich k · 12-31-2008, 09:36 PM

so would lowering the car help or hinder fuel economy, or is it negligable?

Thirty-Nine · 12-31-2008, 09:39 PM

Lowering will probably not have a noticeable difference in fuel economy. I've owned seven vehicles that have been lowered, and never noticed a difference.

Lowering will, however, improve handling and stability in cornering. The ride will be firmer (of course, that will vary between setups), and, IMHO, it looks a lot better, too.

cali yaris · 12-31-2008, 10:25 PM

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Well we can all have our opinions, right?

Yes. However, the OP said how it "is" for everyone, along with a mild insult for emphasis.

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as we all know, the car has NONE. If you think it does you're kidding yourself.

I hope the OP's real and valid question was answered.

nemelek · 12-31-2008, 10:33 PM

This is the worst car to drive in a cross wind that I have ever owned. No need for up grades for me. When it is windy, I am more careful.

89GLH · 04-29-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

I would ask with due respect that you speak for yourself, and not for me. The car handles like a dream with minimal suspension upgrades.

Back from the dead. This is exactly what I was asking. I have no upgrades whatsoever, and the car tracks all over the place when it's windy. Cali, no upgrades the car handles terrible. It would therefore lend itself that with "minimal upgrades" it would handle like a dream. Right? That's pretty obvious I thought, hence me asking. Thanks for the holier than thou approach.

*tomato* · 04-29-2010, 12:34 AM

OP, you gotta understand, this is a Yaris enthusiasts' forum, and people on here are really proud of their car (even those who have not done any mods

), so people can be a little sensitive to criticism.

I haven't yet seen Cali's Yaris in person but I understand it is quite the beast ;)

What I was wondering is whether or not you did anything to improve handling since you last posted?

I'm with you, stock Yaris doesn't handle great in the wind (I've complained about the same thing when I first got my Yaris and got some of the same response initially ;)

Cosmonaut · 04-29-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 89GLH

Back from the dead. This is exactly what I was asking. I have no upgrades whatsoever, and the car tracks all over the place when it's windy. Cali, no upgrades the car handles terrible. It would therefore lend itself that with "minimal upgrades" it would handle like a dream. Right? That's pretty obvious I thought, hence me asking. Thanks for the holier than thou approach.

lol this comment is great. use the search button to get your "non holier than thou" answers.

Loren · 04-29-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 89GLH

Back from the dead. This is exactly what I was asking. I have no upgrades whatsoever, and the car tracks all over the place when it's windy. Cali, no upgrades the car handles terrible. It would therefore lend itself that with "minimal upgrades" it would handle like a dream. Right? That's pretty obvious I thought, hence me asking. Thanks for the holier than thou approach.

Add a rear swaybar and some decent tires. Be happy.

cali yaris · 04-29-2010, 01:42 AM

Since you completely ignored my helpful suggestions in post #4 in favor of insulting me, and which have been further answered several times by everyone else (post 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 17, etc), do you have any NEW questions?

12-31-2008, 06:58 PM	#1
89GLH Drives: 2009 Yaris 4 door hatch Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 30	holy body roll We all know you dont buy the car for the performance. Because as we all know, the car has NONE. If you think it does you're kidding yourself. I was headed to work and the wind damn near knocked the car on 2 wheels. What tasteful kits have you put together that help that? I dont want to lose the warranty, but I do want a safer feeling car. springs shocks coilovers sway bars

12-31-2008, 07:05 PM	#3
bdc87 HISTORY REPEATED 11/04/08 View User's Garage Drives: 07' MM Vitz LB Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA Posts: 355	Wider wheels also help out. __________________

12-31-2008, 08:39 PM	#6
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	To the OP, the Yaris can be made to handle very well. It's forte isn't straight-line performance, but like cali_yaris said, it can be made better. I've got Megan Racing coilovers, TRD rear swaybar, and some stickier tires. It helps a lot. __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

12-31-2008, 08:49 PM	#7
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	besides the usual spring/shock/swaybar ideas you could also invest in some braces from GT SPEC. im sure the usual asspaper's will tell you they DO NOTHING but if you come to one of our meets next year i'll take you for a ride..... __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

12-31-2008, 09:39 PM	#11
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	Lowering will probably not have a noticeable difference in fuel economy. I've owned seven vehicles that have been lowered, and never noticed a difference. Lowering will, however, improve handling and stability in cornering. The ride will be firmer (of course, that will vary between setups), and, IMHO, it looks a lot better, too. __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

12-31-2008, 07:00 PM	#2
33OH Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dover, Ohio Posts: 7,606	You just listed what would help. I lowered mine almost 2" (Tanabe DF210's) and it solved the problem. $90 investment (used springs) and 2 hours time is all it took.

12-31-2008, 08:34 PM	#5
thepoche View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Yaris CE Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 56	Get good tires with stiff sidewall. Thats what made a big difference for me in the highway winds. I have coilovers and rear sway bar and when I put the soft winter tires on, I get knocked around by wind but with the good tires, I don't feel it.

12-31-2008, 09:12 PM	#8
PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	I think he's right on that a new factory/unmodified Yaris has no performance what-so-ever. Well OK, performance fuel economy...

12-31-2008, 09:36 PM	#10
Rich k Drives: 07 3dr white Yaris 5spd stock Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dutchess NY Posts: 130	so would lowering the car help or hinder fuel economy, or is it negligable?

12-31-2008, 10:33 PM	#13
nemelek DWEED Drives: 3DR 2008 Metorite Metalic Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,161	This is the worst car to drive in a cross wind that I have ever owned. No need for up grades for me. When it is windy, I am more careful. __________________ Making a decision without following it with an action is still a fantasy.

04-29-2010, 12:34 AM	#15
tomato Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2DR LB 07, MT, Abs. Red Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,155	OP, you gotta understand, this is a Yaris enthusiasts' forum, and people on here are really proud of their car (even those who have not done any mods ), so people can be a little sensitive to criticism. I haven't yet seen Cali's Yaris in person but I understand it is quite the beast ;) What I was wondering is whether or not you did anything to improve handling since you last posted? I'm with you, stock Yaris doesn't handle great in the wind (I've complained about the same thing when I first got my Yaris and got some of the same response initially ;) __________________ Follow Bamboo the YarisWorld Traveler here

04-29-2010, 01:42 AM	#18
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Since you completely ignored my helpful suggestions in post #4 in favor of insulting me, and which have been further answered several times by everyone else (post 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 17, etc), do you have any NEW questions? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

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