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Toyota: The Most American Car Company
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07-08-2009, 12:21 AM | #2 |
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I believe that the Tacoma and Corolla (and may be the Venza) are also made in the Nummi factory in Fremont here in NorCal.
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07-08-2009, 02:54 AM | #3 |
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Yes Tacoma and Corolla are...or Tacoma was stopped for a while last i heard from one of my friends working at Nummi...
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This isn't just about what is built in America. It factors in everything. And when everything is factored, the Camry is the most American car even over the Ford F-150.
Fact is, many dozens of foreign branded cars are built in the US even BMW's and Benz's. But Toyota designs for the American market, pays lots of taxes here, employs 10's of thousands, produces parts here, ect... No one can continue to boycott Toyota, for example, simply because everything benefits Japan. It's just not true. Many of their models benefit America's economy more than Japan's. And many of those "American" cars people buy are built in Mexico and Canada. |
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Toyota's a big employer down here in San Antonio!
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07-08-2009, 10:23 AM | #6 |
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I used to hear guys around the Harley shops talking about the virtues of their all American bikes vs. the "Jap crap." My 1985 FLTC had a Japanese built fork on the front end, and the carburetor and starter at least were Japanese as well. I'm sure a whole lot more than that was imported.
Seems to me like it was around 1979-80 that G.M. started selling a Toyota made car as a Chevy Nova. Bet it came with the sticker under the hood that said "Keep your G.M. car all G.M. Use only genuine G.M. parts." Personally, I'm happy that the four Toyotas I've bought, an Echo and three Yarises, all came with stickers in the window showing that they contained 0% U.S. or Canadian made parts. If you're going to buy a Japanese car, you might as well get a Japanese made one. |
07-08-2009, 09:58 PM | #7 |
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Toyota sets the benchmark for manufacturing excellence and has been training Americans in how to design and make durable goods.
One of the guys who used to run a small business unit where I work got majorly promoted, to the Director of a gigantic department that will improve efficiency. One of his favorite sayings is, "At Toyota they come to work saying, 'how can I do better today than yesterday?". Hope to give him a hand as he makes it work. Gene |
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Doesn't each company pay their corporate taxes in their home country, though? So Toyota profits go to Japan, and USA car company profits stay here.
I believe this point has been overlooked in the discussion -- it's a lot of money and at least worth a mention.
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I don't care what argument you have for it, Toyota will never be the "most american car company" IMO.
That's not a knock on Toyota's quality or commitment to US buyers, it's just a simple fact in my eyes.
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Then, you'd have no choice but agree that Toyota was the most American. Really, Ford is the only one that is currently safe from extinction. |
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An interesting report. Surreal as it is, I can see their point. Global markets are strange critters indeed.
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Ford is no where near safe from extinction...
Even if all of them went out of business there would still be brands like Tesla, Detroit Electric, Saleen, Cunningham... etc, etc that will all still be more American.
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I can't imagine that Toyota doesn't pay huge American taxes as well.
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07-09-2009, 06:56 AM | #14 |
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I agree with Hilton on this one. I'm glad that my car was made in Japan.
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Just remember, it doesn't matter your country of origin, if you're manufacturing in the US, you operate under all of the same rules as the American branded companies. The big cost difference is that the foreign brands are building cars without unions and in job friendly non-liberal states where state taxes are lower. |
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Immune from collapse? No. But currently things are looking really good for Ford as their market share is increasing each month. And as Chrysler and GM continually looks worse, that's more share for Ford. Ford isn't going anywhere.
Here's an interesting note, the Fusion this past month, sold more than the entire Chrysler linup! And the Fusion isn't even the best selling Ford. |
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Whereas I wouldn't disagree that Toyota has done an excellent job at it, I think the "benchmark" was set by Honda; who built the first Japanese car plant in America (Marysville, Ohio) which started production in November 1982. It currently produces four models (it is the sole global source of the Honda Accord Coupe, the Acura TL and the Acura RDX, while also building more than 90% of the Honda Accord Sedans sold in America) and employs over 5000 individuals who built 440,000 vehicles every year. The neighboring Honda motorcycle plant was opened in September 1979 and has built more than 1 million motorcycles (Honda GoldWings). It employs an additional 300 people. Cheers! M2 |
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Ford is in no better shape than GM. The only difference between the two is that Ford was able to get money from sources other than the government a few years back (although they have now started taking government loans too). Both companies are in pretty equal debt and both are losing money. In fact you could argue that GM will be in better shape because their bankruptcy will help them lose their bad assets. Once GM arises from bankruptcy and Ford finishes selling/killing its unwanted brands (Mercury and Volvo) GM and Ford will be very similar companies with GM still likely the sales leader among the two.
Chrysler remains plagued with bad ownership...
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