Engine oil filter

[bentjazz]

Since I'll be changing my own oil henceforth, does it matter which oil filter I use? Fram seems to be the cheapest on Amazon (with very decent reviews), but I don't want to use something that'll underperform. I plan on changing oil every 3500-5000 miles. Thanks in advance, Yarisworlders.

[bronsin]

Frame is good I’ve used it on my wife’s 2005 Camry and it’s got 200,000 miles on it maybe tomorrow. You can also buy genuine Toyota filters on Amazon of case of a dozen for about the same as an individual Fram filter. For my Toyota corolla 2020 I bought a case of 12 GMC filters for $40. They are all good. It’s like engine oil from Ace Hardware. They’re all the same.

Frame is nice because it has grippy texture on it so as long as you don’t crank that sucker on you can get it off my hand.

[bronsin]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255889050501

I got one of these so I don’t need to take tools under the car to change the oil. It’s got a pretty small hole for the oil to run out compared to the standard drain plug. I would look for oil filters and oil on eBay and compare it to Amazon. Since you’ll be changing your oil every 3000 miles there’s no point in going to synthetic unless you live where it gets to be 20° below zero.

If you go with a standard drain plug, the drain plug on my wife’s 200,000 mile and 50 change oil is the one that came with the car. I mean the washer under the plug is it original one. No leaks.

[WeeYari]

Once again the stage has been set for Fram flaming.

[bobbyturbopants]

I would like to know if a bigger filter will fit, also a part number for a magnetic drain plug , I guess I could run a few strong magnets on my filter like I do on my classic car

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by bobbyturbopants

I would like to know if a bigger filter will fit, also a part number for a magnetic drain plug , I guess I could run a few strong magnets on my filter like I do on my classic car

Yes Fran PH 4386 Will fit. Not sure if it’s a good idea but it fits. Not sure if it makes any difference either here the same Purolator filter that fits the Camry will fit the Yaris also.I think the 14776 is for the Yaris and the 14777 is for the Camry

[sh0rtlife]

get wix(i believe they are the suppler for toyota)

as for a bigger filter i can tell you a few things based on old V8's..first off you get the bonus of extra oil capacity which means more time for oil to "cool" while cycling, secondly with more surface area in the filter you reduce stress on the oil pump as more surface allows oil to flow thru said filter at a higher rate with less "force" this translates into slightly higher oil pressure and higher flow rate at ALL wear surfaces as youve had less pressure and flow "stolen" by the filter....

so yes if theres a bigger filter that fits without issue by all means DO IT..the final bonus is that anything caught and plugging the filter due to more pleats means less chance of pressure loss or the need for the pressure spring to let oil flow past it..so..you get more filtering surface and less chance of bypass

[mitch9521]

I buy bulk cases of AC Delco Professional filters for my Yaris and F150 from Rockauto. They do well. As long as you don't use that orange can of death garbage(Fram) and change your oil on time, you will be fine.

[LostinSpace]

I was recently able to get OEM Toyota oil filters from my local dealership for like $3 dollars a pop

[bronsin]

I’m not even sure oil filters are necessary. My1974 VW beetle didn’t even have an oil filter. I rebuild the engine at 130,000 miles and the main bearings, the camshaft bearings, and the rod bearings and their counterparts on the crankshaft and the camshaft had ZERO wear. At 250,000 miles when I took the engine apart to put it in a 71 VW bus there was still very little wear on those bearings. The cylinders and pistons We’re toast at 130,000 miles and again at 250,000.

It’s true I changed the oil every 1500 miles and it’s also true that the car was 90% of the time used to commute 30 miles to work. But there was no oil filter and only 2 1/2 quarts of oil in the engine. A quart of oil in those days was $.75.! Imagine doing a oil change for a buck 50!

[rodrigogar]

Denso is the OEM for Toyota filters. Else, you can get the Toyota oil filters from the dealership for like $3 or $4. You can go to parts.toyota.com and check the prices of the dealerships around you (they vary).

[sh0rtlife]

Originally Posted by bronsin

I’m not even sure oil filters are necessary. My1974 VW beetle didn’t even have an oil filter. I rebuild the engine at 130,000 miles and the main bearings, the camshaft bearings, and the rod bearings and their counterparts on the crankshaft and the camshaft had ZERO wear. At 250,000 miles when I took the engine apart to put it in a 71 VW bus there was still very little wear on those bearings. The cylinders and pistons We’re toast at 130,000 miles and again at 250,000.

It’s true I changed the oil every 1500 miles and it’s also true that the car was 90% of the time used to commute 30 miles to work. But there was no oil filter and only 2 1/2 quarts of oil in the engine. A quart of oil in those days was $.75.! Imagine doing a oil change for a buck 50!

most bikes before the mid 80s only have a screen like the VW's..and were all also air cooled

after my timing chain stuff...im not sold a filter does much too...since the VVT was full of shavings and the filter was nasty but should have still been catching

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by sh0rtlife

most bikes before the mid 80s only have a screen like the VW's..and were all also air cooled

after my timing chain stuff...im not sold a filter does much too...since the VVT was full of shavings and the filter was nasty but should have still been catching

What ... somebody agrees with me ....I’m in shock!

And he’s got a compelling argument too!

[sh0rtlife]

Originally Posted by bronsin

What ... somebody agrees with me ....I’m in shock!

And he’s got a compelling argument too!

alot of dirt bikes STILL do not use an oil filter...and they are in FILTHY enviroments..of course the change times are very much so more often..they are also beatin on twice as hard...

hell only 2 of my bikes even have filters..the 03 zr7-s and the 83 honda xl600r

with the way the "bypass" plate is designed in all filters..only about 1/2 of the oil is even filtered while the rest just uses the bypass...HEAT has alot to do with that as the hot oil makes the spring compress, to which i say..if you can add a cooler i recomend it as HEAT has alot to do with how your filter works...even better if you can do a sandwich plate and "remote" filter as then the filter isnt on the block sucking head further opening its bypass

in the end a filter is really only designed to clean a little...and is there mostly for the guys who dont take care of their car.....think of it like an idiot light


with my timing chain issues....i flushed more crap out of the engine WITHOUT the oil filter than the filter could catch...so...yeah

[mitch9521]

Originally Posted by sh0rtlife

most bikes before the mid 80s only have a screen like the VW's..and were all also air cooled

after my timing chain stuff...im not sold a filter does much too...since the VVT was full of shavings and the filter was nasty but should have still been catching

Honda Ruckus' still only use a screen. Not sure about Honda's other 50cc mini bikes/scooters though.

[bronsin]

My 82 Honda XL 250 didn’t have a filter just the screen. It took a quart of oil which I changed every 1000 miles. Castrol 20 W 50!