Tire Rotation and Position Change - Toyota Yaris Forums

hans_fh · 05-29-2007, 09:39 PM

My Yaris is having 10,000miles. Can anyone tell me if the rotation is necessary for the Yaris? Do I need to put the two back tires to the front? I mean have position changes for these four tires.

Thanks a lot!!!!!

YamilR · 05-29-2007, 09:54 PM

I rotate every 5000 miles, and yes, thats how you rotate them

Schmingie · 05-29-2007, 10:59 PM

I would highly recommend rotating tires. As the front tires normally wear faster ( on a properly aligned car) this will give you longer tire life which off sets the cost of the rotations. Rotations used to be done to cross the front and rear tires like an X. However it is no longer the norm to change the direction in which the tires run and the tires are now rotated front to back ( or back to front - lol ) on the same side of the car.

S.

swng · 05-29-2007, 11:34 PM

My car's tires were rotated by the dealership on the second service when the car was about 12 months old. In other words, as long as you take your car to a Toyota dealership for service regularly, you won't need to worry about tire rotation as a separate issue.

gonzo452001 · 05-30-2007, 06:07 AM

I cross rotated my tires that's what the manual says to do

eTiMaGo · 05-30-2007, 06:30 AM

If you have directional pattern tread tires, you should not cross-rotate them, just switch them back to front, or you'll be runnign the tread backward, which will have the effect of sucking water under your tire, instead of pushing it out! Very dangerous when it's raining!

churp · 05-30-2007, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo452001

I cross rotated my tires that's what the manual says to do

My manual says front to back for the US.

blacksan · 05-30-2007, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churp

My manual says front to back for the US.

+1

I do it every time I change the oil.

sambo42xa · 05-30-2007, 09:16 AM

hmmm, we got one that says the manual says cross them, another says front to back for US. Another had the dealership do it but does no say how it was done.

Seeing we got different answers here, I guess I would call the dealership and find out and/or do what the manual says.
I for one have ALWAYS done the cross change, BUT for the YARIS I will do what the manual says. Better get going, got 7600 on her and havn't done it yet!

sambo42xa

jamal1984 · 05-30-2007, 09:23 AM

How about balance? should iwe rotate and balance every 5k or 6k?

Black Yaris · 05-30-2007, 09:28 AM

Always rotate tires front to back, and have them check the balance when doing so every 5000 when doing oil change per owners manual

Black Yaris · 05-30-2007, 09:29 AM

and from years of experience at the tire shop

sambo42xa · 05-30-2007, 12:50 PM

Now, I'm not starting anything here...BUT, I have to ask this. Can anyone agree with me on the cross rotation thing? NOT talking about the YARIS here. It was mentioned, years of exper. in a tire shop. I'm only asking because I know I can pull out ANY Owneres Manual from previous years and it shows the cross rotation method. Go ahead and look, you'll find it. As a person with years of exper. as a tire person, it's one thing what the manual shows the way to do it and your boss telling you another. You read every thread on here and everyone says to "read your manual"...right?. At which year the manuals were changed to do the front to back method I do not know. Did it even matter which way you did it? Was there a tire design change over the years (yes, I know..of course there where tire changes over the years) which made it front to back when rotating tires nowadays to make them (tires) last longer? I've been on the bike all week, so I don't know about the "correct" rotation on the YARIS. Now since the question was asked, I'm going to check the manual when I get home today.
Very good question.

sambo42xa
(mechanic all my years working/ BUT, Only an auto mechanic on the side....)
All the above are just My opinion/s or suggestion/s

Black Yaris · 05-30-2007, 01:01 PM

cross rotate is only done to correct irregular tire wear dure to poor tire maintnence (not rotateing and balanceing tires every 5k miles, bad alignment, bad struts/shock or other front suspension or steering parts)

eTiMaGo · 05-30-2007, 01:27 PM

There's nothing wrong with cross-rotating the tires, if as mentioned, they use a unidirectional tread (and if the are all the same size too, of course!). It's probably just easier to swap front and back, with no ill effects.

sambo42xa · 05-30-2007, 01:54 PM

churp · 05-30-2007, 11:00 PM

Early steel belted radials (in the 70's) had problems with belts seperating after reversing rotational direction. (something abouts the early steel cords would fray???) Believe me if you want, it happened to me on a set of tires I switched from one car to another,.....or just consider as an Urban Myth coming from a mumblin old Toad!!!!

hans_fh · 05-30-2007, 11:40 PM

Ok, I got u guys. How much does it cost to have tire rotation in Toyota dealership?

05-29-2007, 09:39 PM	#1
hans_fh Drives: Yaris Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 133	Tire Rotation and Position Change My Yaris is having 10,000miles. Can anyone tell me if the rotation is necessary for the Yaris? Do I need to put the two back tires to the front? I mean have position changes for these four tires. Thanks a lot!!!!!

05-30-2007, 06:07 AM	#5
gonzo452001 Drives: 3-door liftback blazing blue Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: French Lick,IN Posts: 185	I cross rotated my tires that's what the manual says to do __________________ 07 yaris LB 5-speed blazing Blue 07 yaris LB Auto Bayou Blue rostra cruise control oem style foglights 96tacoma 4x4 xcab I4auto Weathertech vent visors Scan GaugeII

05-30-2007, 06:30 AM	#6
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	If you have directional pattern tread tires, you should not cross-rotate them, just switch them back to front, or you'll be runnign the tread backward, which will have the effect of sucking water under your tire, instead of pushing it out! Very dangerous when it's raining! __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

05-30-2007, 09:16 AM	#9
sambo42xa Drives: 07 YARIS Automatic/LiftBac/Red Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern NH- USA Posts: 144	hmmm, we got one that says the manual says cross them, another says front to back for US. Another had the dealership do it but does no say how it was done. Seeing we got different answers here, I guess I would call the dealership and find out and/or do what the manual says. I for one have ALWAYS done the cross change, BUT for the YARIS I will do what the manual says. Better get going, got 7600 on her and havn't done it yet! sambo42xa __________________

05-30-2007, 09:28 AM	#11
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	Always rotate tires front to back, and have them check the balance when doing so every 5000 when doing oil change per owners manual __________________

05-29-2007, 09:54 PM	#2
YamilR View User's Garage Drives: Absolutely Red Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 570	I rotate every 5000 miles, and yes, thats how you rotate them

05-29-2007, 10:59 PM	#3
Schmingie Drives: 06 Yaris LE 5dr Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 51	I would highly recommend rotating tires. As the front tires normally wear faster ( on a properly aligned car) this will give you longer tire life which off sets the cost of the rotations. Rotations used to be done to cross the front and rear tires like an X. However it is no longer the norm to change the direction in which the tires run and the tires are now rotated front to back ( or back to front - lol ) on the same side of the car. S.

05-29-2007, 11:34 PM	#4
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	My car's tires were rotated by the dealership on the second service when the car was about 12 months old. In other words, as long as you take your car to a Toyota dealership for service regularly, you won't need to worry about tire rotation as a separate issue.

05-30-2007, 09:23 AM	#10
jamal1984 The Beautification of Car View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Yaris S Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 967	How about balance? should iwe rotate and balance every 5k or 6k?

05-30-2007, 09:29 AM	#12
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	and from years of experience at the tire shop __________________

05-30-2007, 12:50 PM	#13
sambo42xa Drives: 07 YARIS Automatic/LiftBac/Red Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern NH- USA Posts: 144	Now, I'm not starting anything here...BUT, I have to ask this. Can anyone agree with me on the cross rotation thing? NOT talking about the YARIS here. It was mentioned, years of exper. in a tire shop. I'm only asking because I know I can pull out ANY Owneres Manual from previous years and it shows the cross rotation method. Go ahead and look, you'll find it. As a person with years of exper. as a tire person, it's one thing what the manual shows the way to do it and your boss telling you another. You read every thread on here and everyone says to "read your manual"...right?. At which year the manuals were changed to do the front to back method I do not know. Did it even matter which way you did it? Was there a tire design change over the years (yes, I know..of course there where tire changes over the years) which made it front to back when rotating tires nowadays to make them (tires) last longer? I've been on the bike all week, so I don't know about the "correct" rotation on the YARIS. Now since the question was asked, I'm going to check the manual when I get home today. Very good question. sambo42xa (mechanic all my years working/ BUT, Only an auto mechanic on the side....) All the above are just My opinion/s or suggestion/s __________________

05-30-2007, 01:01 PM	#14
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	cross rotate is only done to correct irregular tire wear dure to poor tire maintnence (not rotateing and balanceing tires every 5k miles, bad alignment, bad struts/shock or other front suspension or steering parts) __________________

05-30-2007, 01:27 PM	#15
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	There's nothing wrong with cross-rotating the tires, if as mentioned, they use a unidirectional tread (and if the are all the same size too, of course!). It's probably just easier to swap front and back, with no ill effects. __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

05-30-2007, 01:54 PM	#16
sambo42xa Drives: 07 YARIS Automatic/LiftBac/Red Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern NH- USA Posts: 144	__________________

05-30-2007, 11:00 PM	#17
churp Clean and (dis)Functional View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2dr--Black Betty Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tropical Minnesota Posts: 562	Early steel belted radials (in the 70's) had problems with belts seperating after reversing rotational direction. (something abouts the early steel cords would fray???) Believe me if you want, it happened to me on a set of tires I switched from one car to another,.....or just consider as an Urban Myth coming from a mumblin old Toad!!!! __________________ ____________ Old School Cobble Jockey

05-30-2007, 11:40 PM	#18
hans_fh Drives: Yaris Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 133	Ok, I got u guys. How much does it cost to have tire rotation in Toyota dealership?