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Old 11-08-2011, 12:02 PM   #1
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Need Clutch

Need to upgrade my clutch. Making about 210hp right now. Looking for ideas on what brands are good.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:04 PM   #2
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Clutchmasters is the only way to go. Even at Stage 4, it's nearly close to OEM pedal feel.

Exedy Stage 1 was way too stiff.

I would go CM Stage 3, you won't regret it.
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:07 PM   #3
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Maybe but it's kinda pricey. Almost double the cost exedy
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:08 PM   #4
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or support local vendor
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:44 PM   #5
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I second the Clutch masters...you get what you pay for.


I'm running a stage III with the 9lb flywheel Garm sells...you won't be disappointed.
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Maybe but it's kinda pricey. Almost double the cost exedy
Maybe, but if the Exedy sucks, what's the point?
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:49 PM   #7
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You know exedy doesnt suck. I am all for supporting the vendors as I do all the time. But when money is getting tight you have to look out for your needs first. In this case it's out of my price range.
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just to be clear, here was the original request:
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Need to upgrade my clutch. Making about 210hp right now. Looking for ideas on what brands are good.
I'll be more specific: I drove in stop and go traffic with an Exedy in my car, and it sucked for that. Probably great for racing, but not easy for street driving. I'm happy to sell you one.

I'm glad you like to support vendors -- what brand would you like a quote on?

Exedy
CCI
ACT
other?
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You know exedy doesnt suck. I am all for supporting the vendors as I do all the time. But when money is getting tight you have to look out for your needs first. In this case it's out of my price range.

Then why are you asking about it? Seems to me you have your heart set on Exedy...
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Clutchmasters:

$369 shipped Stage 1
$479 shipped Stage 2/3/4

$409 shipped aluminum flywheel

ACT are $489-$499 for all stages

CCI:

$379 shipped Stage 1/2/4/5
$489 shipped Stage 3 (segmented kevlar)

$289 CCI Steel flywheel 9.5lbs
$299 CCI steel flywheel 8.4 lbs

Exedy

$159 Stage 0 (OEM)
$299 Stage 1 (organic)
$379 Stage 2 (cerametalic)

Spec
$299 Stage 1
$389 Stage 2
$399 Stage 2+
$359 Stage 3
$499 Stage 3+
$359 Stage 4
$499 Stage 5

$389 Spec Aluminum flywheel

Jun (+ some shipping!)

$699 Stage 1
$640 Aluminum flywheel

TRD Japan - (+ some shipping!)

$550 Stage 1
$599 Flywheel
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:43 PM   #11
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Considering your power level and budget I think Clutch Masters Stage 1 will work best for you.

Stage 3 is $110 more but keep in mind it also lasts 2-3 times longer on average which will save you money in the long term on clutches, flywheels, downtime and labor.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:42 PM   #12
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Considering your power level and budget I think Clutch Masters Stage 1 will work best for you.

Stage 3 is $110 more but keep in mind it also lasts 2-3 times longer on average which will save you money in the long term on clutches, flywheels, downtime and labor.

Bingo...which is why I went with it, to save time/money in the long run. Not to mention the clutch feels spectacular, I drive in bumper to bumper LA traffic almost every week. My average work commute is 250 miles.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:28 AM   #13
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Clutchmasters:

$369 shipped Stage 1
$479 shipped Stage 2/3/4

$409 shipped aluminum flywheel

ACT are $489-$499 for all stages

CCI:

$379 shipped Stage 1/2/4/5
$489 shipped Stage 3 (segmented kevlar)

$289 CCI Steel flywheel 9.5lbs
$299 CCI steel flywheel 8.4 lbs

Exedy

$159 Stage 0 (OEM)
$299 Stage 1 (organic)
$379 Stage 2 (cerametalic)

Spec
$299 Stage 1
$389 Stage 2
$399 Stage 2+
$359 Stage 3
$499 Stage 3+
$359 Stage 4
$499 Stage 5

$389 Spec Aluminum flywheel

Jun (+ some shipping!)

$699 Stage 1
$640 Aluminum flywheel

TRD Japan - (+ some shipping!)

$550 Stage 1
$599 Flywheel
If you can get me the tq ratings on the CM stage 1 and Spec stage 1. You got yourself a sale.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:30 AM   #14
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I'll do that today for you, and thanks, I always appreciate the chance to earn your business.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:27 PM   #15
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We called both companies.

CM Stage 1 70% increase holding capacity
Stock is 120-140 TQ and CM Stage 1 is 180 TQ

Spec Stage 1 15% increase holding capacity
Stock is 120-140 TQ and Spec Stage 1 is 150-160 TQ

Both manufacturers recommended you go for a Stage 3/4. Remember, we don't know the exact torque you're making when discussing this.
So this is our "official" disclaimer, that we recommend more than a Stage 1. (have to say it)

Clutchmasters supply OEM toyota throwout bearing vs. Spec sometimes use aftermarket

Clutchmasters use steel backed plate vs. Spec use steel "lined" plate

Clutchmasters use standard sprung clutch vs. Spec use "double" sprung clutch which can sometimes cause stiffer pedal feel.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:19 AM   #16
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We called both companies.

CM Stage 1 70% increase holding capacity
Stock is 120-140 TQ and CM Stage 1 is 180 TQ

Spec Stage 1 15% increase holding capacity
Stock is 120-140 TQ and Spec Stage 1 is 150-160 TQ

Both manufacturers recommended you go for a Stage 3/4. Remember, we don't know the exact torque you're making when discussing this.
So this is our "official" disclaimer, that we recommend more than a Stage 1. (have to say it)

Clutchmasters supply OEM toyota throwout bearing vs. Spec sometimes use aftermarket

Clutchmasters use steel backed plate vs. Spec use steel "lined" plate

Clutchmasters use standard sprung clutch vs. Spec use "double" sprung clutch which can sometimes cause stiffer pedal feel.
Ok you did your job a sales person and a good vendor. I work in sales n can appreciate the effort you making. I will go with the CM then. Let me move some money around n I will get back at you. Wish I had more employees that had your business sense lol.
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Old 11-12-2011, 01:13 PM   #18
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CM Stage 1 70% increase holding capacity
Stock is 120-140 TQ and CM Stage 1 is 180 TQ

Spec Stage 1 15% increase holding capacity
Stock is 120-140 TQ and Spec Stage 1 is 150-160 TQ
So for those of us that have not gone FI, is the CM overkill? I'm looking to upgrade my clutch and flywheel when I drop in my frankenstien transmission, but likely won't be going FI for some time.
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