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03-25-2009, 01:30 PM | #1 |
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AWD belta
So after seeing an AWD belta in this thread, I decided, I really want an AWD yaris. I've searched all around the forum and the internet, and not knowing japanese is kind of limiting my ability to research...
The only AWD yarii that I have seen, have been RHD, and come with a 1.3 liter engine putting out a measly 80-90 hp. Is the AWD sold anywhere that is LHD? Do you think the drivetrain can handle more? Like a 2zz or a 4age? Also, does the AWD assembly take up more room in the engine bay, making swaps even harder? Would it be easier/cheaper to just custom make the yaris into an AWD rather than worry about importing everything and hope it fits? If all of those questions are stupid, point me in the easiest direction of making an AWD 'wrx killer' yaris |
03-25-2009, 02:55 PM | #2 |
Why would anyone want an AWD yaris with a 106HP engine? Buy a different car honestly.
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03-25-2009, 03:22 PM | #3 |
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I think an AWD yaris would be a great sleeper, actually. Think, if you had the 1.5l still in the yaris and swapped in the AWD drivetrain (with modification, I would believe), and gave it a good supercharger or turbo setup, build the motor internals a bit, and you WOULD have a WRX killer. 2300lb curb weight vs >2900lb curb weight with not a whole lot of power difference. Good concept, but it will cost a good bit of money.
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If I could get a used AWD for 5-6 grand, and a 2ZZ for 4 grand, for around 15 grand you'd have a car that could theoretically compete with a WRX, for 20 grand you could spank STIs all day. Ya that's probably guessing cheap all around, but I've seen super cheap salvage yarii and GTS celicas - the AWD drivetrain will probably be the hardest part. |
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03-25-2009, 04:27 PM | #5 |
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Yeah, see, doing these sorts of things isn't about the supposed "worth" of a car. Laszlow, who has that Blitz-sponsored Yaris, had all that awesome stuff done to his car, probably worth upwards of $30,000. But he gets more props at car shows because he doesn't drive like a WRX or an RX7 bc those cars are overused.
Check around with members from Japan. The AWD systems from Yarii/Beltas are bound to be parted out of some cars by now, and they're probably somewhere around 3 grand shipped to the US, but this is speculation. I say go for it!!
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03-25-2009, 06:46 PM | #6 |
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For the time money and effort to make a Yaris AWD your better off buying a car that already has that capability. Cool project but really not worth it. Your better off looking into forced induction of some sorts and corresponding mods to boot if you want to attempt "spanking STi's all day long."
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^exactly my point
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03-25-2009, 07:10 PM | #9 |
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not feasible without spending far too much money. i have already looked into doing this... importing the COMPLETE awd system would cost upwards of 6-7k
I would of done it instead of a twin engine setup if it was cost effective.
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Hypothetically though, if I could find one cheap, would it be able to take 180-240 HP? Would a 2ZZ or 4AGE fit with the AWD set up? STIs are thousands and thousands of dollars(35 thousands base) - and I can't drive 10 miles without passing 2. |
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03-25-2009, 07:54 PM | #11 |
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Just like the AWD bB's. Only came as automatics tho.
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03-25-2009, 09:38 PM | #12 |
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Yep. Most expensive part/system I ever bought. Still have it too. Anyone got an xB for sale?
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Those of you who say it would cost thousands of dollars, you're missing the point. So what if the Yaris only costs like 13 grand new? It doesn't really matter. If you have the money and you want something DIFFERENT, then this sort of thing makes perfect sense. For some people, the Yaris isn't worth spending more than like 5 grand on. For others, like me, it's worth spending up to 20 grand. It's all in your perception of your car. If I had a Yaris sedan I'd totally be planning to do this.
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You'd be better off using an AWD system that was available in north america like using the matrix awd system. I would love to see an awd yaris done!
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From a little reading the matrix only comes with an auto in AWD, just like the belta - but it should be able to handle a lot more power. Right now I'm thinking scrap the belta AWD system, and try to find a salvage evo, eclipse gsx, or celica gt4 |
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