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11-02-2012, 10:09 PM | #1 |
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Hyundai and Kia are to pay fines for lying about fuel economy !!!
So it looks like Hyundai and it's cheapo brand Kia are to pay a lot of money for misleading it's customers about the fuel mileage they reported. More than a million Hyundai/Kia owners will be reinbursed because of the false claims.I don't know if this applies to US only because i heard of this just today on the national news station (radio).Hyunday/Kia
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11-02-2012, 10:38 PM | #3 |
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Honda too
Have had some issues with, and loss an interesting "small claims" case regarding their hybrid's claimed fuel economy. That is being appealed, but its has some huge ramifications
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb...wsuit-20120202
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11-04-2012, 04:23 PM | #4 |
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Another reason I'm glad I didn't buy a Kia. I rented a Kia Rio once and hated it, compared to it my Yaris is a racecar.
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11-04-2012, 04:36 PM | #5 |
That's because once the metric conversion was done....it turns out that customers actually owe Hyundai/Kia money!
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11-05-2012, 06:12 AM | #6 |
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Im waiting wiht baited breath for them to nail Ford to the wall for claiming the Focus gets 40+ mpg.
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11-05-2012, 10:09 PM | #7 |
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There's certainly been tons of talk of this with Hyundai, Kia, Honda, & Ford.
They are "earning" 40 mpg ratings are most consumers are reporting much less on the highway. All the while, lower rated Toyota's like the 36 mpg Corolla get better mileage than the 40 mpg models. In fact, most Toyota owners regularly report higher than rated mileage. We Yaris owners can attest to that. 29/36? I get 32/41 oddly enough matching the pre-2008 EPA rating. |
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11-06-2012, 04:58 PM | #9 |
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From what I've read, it was an error in calculation using the testing methods dictated by the US EPA that resulted in the erroneous higher MPG's. Apparently Hyundai/Kia acknowledges that they made a mistake in their calculations when the EPA could not replicate their results.
Understand that people use the published MPG as one of the many decision factors in purchasing a car. In this case, the problem is that everyone is assuming that the erroneous numbers were an "honest" mistake. Is it really? Those erroneously high MPG's allowed Hyundai/Kia to get a foothold in a very competitive economy car market during a time with unfavorable market conditions (ongoing recession, dwindling middle class, shrinking salary/wages, etc). I remember very distinctly a few years ago when literally, there was a noticeable increase in the number of new Hyundai/Kias on the road. As if overnight, 1/8th of every car I saw on the road was a new Hyundai/Kia. People make mistakes, right? But you would think that something this important would have more than one set of eyes verifying it. |
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