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10-06-2012, 12:42 AM | #1 |
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Any Cali Members have any input on this?
Running out of gas, stations in CA now inching toward $5/gallon prices
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/10/05...ward-5-gallon/
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10-06-2012, 01:08 AM | #2 |
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Our Thrifty (ARCO) gas station went from $3.99 to $4.57 in 2 days.
Luckily we don't use much gas with a 70 mpg motorcycle, and a 40 mpg car. The 25 mpg truck only gets used for local work. |
10-06-2012, 09:05 AM | #3 |
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That's crazy. Disgusting, even. I'm sure the CEO's of big oil are still cruising in private jets and their precious sports cars.
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10-06-2012, 09:10 AM | #4 |
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I paid $4.38/gal on Thursday then on Friday it was $4.89/gal at the same gas station. Supposed to go up another $.05 - $.15 this weekend. Wish I didn't have to use premium.
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10-06-2012, 12:29 PM | #5 |
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You asked for input. Have you driven on our freeways? Widening is proven not to work.
Maybe more people will move closer to work. Maybe more people will change their choice in vehicle. This is what it takes, unfortunately.
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10-06-2012, 03:53 PM | #6 |
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Given that they pretty much have us over a barrel literally and figuratively, oil companies should be able to charge enough for gas to have huge profit margins...gouging us. The net profit margin for Exxon Mobil for Fiscal Year 2011 was 8.68 percent. Apple Inc.'s net profit margin for the same period was 23.95 percent. Shouldn't people be nearly 3 times as pissed off at Apple as they are at Exxon Mobil? Why doesn't Apple lower it's prices to 'get with the program' and not be so 'greedy'? Why doesn't Apple have 3 times the 'static and noise' from protestors that Exxon Mobil does? (and an argument could be made that Foxconn's treatment of workers is as bad as Exxon Mobil's environmental slip ups). Why aren't people many more times as pissed off about Apple CEO Tim Cook's compensation as they are about Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson's much smaller compensation? A reporter stopped an Occupy Wall Street poster (who was typing on a MacBook Pro) and asked her why she was using a Macbook Pro given her stance. She didn't have a cogent answer. IMO, one of the answers to these questions is that many people think Apple is cool and Exxon Mobil is not. Also, people don't like to pay what they feel is a high price for something that they need that evaporates. One could make the argument that Apple products are somewhat like cigarettes or alcohol. Not a physical addiction like the other two, but some people seem to be nearly as obsessed. People don't need them, but some people seem to be nearly addicted to Apple products. Apple realizes this and can charge what they charge. People keep 'paying the fare'. Also, many people have oil company stock in personal accounts and retirement accounts. I just think the harping on oil company executives gets a little tiresome sometimes. FWIW, the only connection I have to any oil company is a very small fractional share of an oil lease that my grandfather inherited from a friend of his and I gross about 40 dollars per month in income from this fractional lease....and this is through a small company, not a big oil company. I just have the opinion I have. It isn't influenced by 40 dollars per month.
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10-06-2012, 06:22 PM | #7 |
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Wow, I just paid $3.39/gal here in Texas, and I thought that was bad! At least our prices are going down (for a change).
You folks have my sympathy! Cheers! M2
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10-06-2012, 06:48 PM | #8 |
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Yup, trying to understand what is going on in your state that is causing the national attention of the fuel pricing
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10-06-2012, 07:47 PM | #9 |
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Ultimately we still pay less than most other countries. I think were people freak out is the part were the dummies drive big ass cars guzzling their wallet just to get to work. That 6 or 8 cylinder isn't cool. If people were smarter like us the majority would drive economical.
I have no sympathy for those that pay 60+ to fill up. I saw this coming since mid 2006. Its no shocker. Besides wasn't it 420 earlier so what is another 40 cents? not much if you ask me. |
10-06-2012, 08:10 PM | #10 | |
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I did something similar by moving work closer to me. I used to drive all over town to work. Now I work almost exclusively within my local community and it only took 10 years to transition.
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10-06-2012, 11:50 PM | #11 | |
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Market will bear....
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If fewer people drove trucks and Suburbans etc., and more people drove smaller cars....28, 30, 35 mpg vehicles or scooters and motorcycles the price would drop. Few Californians seem willing to do so. So, since people, lots of people are willing to buy gas to feed their large vehicles, and continue long commutes, the oil companies are going to take any and every opportunity to gouge them, and laugh all the way to the bank in the process. So as long as the market will bear it, they'll continue to pay. Reduce the overall demand and the price goes down. Econ 101.
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10-07-2012, 12:57 AM | #12 | |
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10-07-2012, 12:50 PM | #13 | |
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You can try to analyze and rationalize that everyone needs to just go economy, but there really are plenty of cases where of course that just won't work. Sure, I could have purchased a truck from the last couple years that gets around 18mpg mixed which is the real metric for everyday driving or 23mpg for highway, but that would cost me a 400+ payment a month, 30k plus for purchase price, and 600+ a year for registration/taxes. You can't haul much with high efficiency vehicles and you can carry much with them either in terms of items other than home, electronics, etc possessions. The purpose of this thread is for the folks that live in Cali to chime in on their experiences there to get a better understanding not (to be blunt) have folks be ass clowns and point out the nuances of fuel economy/efficiency and what people should or shouldn't be driving. That being said I guess I should go ahead and hook up my trailer to my sedan and go pick up the 14 sheets of sheetrock, 24 2x4x8s, and 2 interior door assemblies....no wait...
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However what would be worse, IMO, is the government getting involved in the 'god given right - Suburban and truck' scenario with a nanny state 'solution'. |
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10-07-2012, 03:57 PM | #16 |
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Its $5.32 per gallon here ($1.41 per L) where I am now for work! Better yet my work truck is a chevy suburban. I took a 45 minute drive on roads with 40-45-50mph speed limits and used over 18L of fuel! It was insane! I don't know how people own these kinds of cars and drive them everywhere!
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Please explain to me where, and how 8.68 percent came up in my post...l (oh and if you believe that the COST to produce gas has increased at the same rate the PRICE has here in Cali over the last week, and that the extra revenue derived from such increases doesn't go directly, penny for penny to the oil companies bottom line....I've got some beachfront property you'll like for next to nothing....)
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10-07-2012, 08:39 PM | #18 | |
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It's also the state with the highest number of hybrids and I think sub-compacts anywhere (Scion iQ, Fiat 500, etc.)
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