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ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-19-2008, 07:31 PM

funny hearing all the THEY SUCK talk. maybe if installer had used proper hardware this would never had happened....

ChinoCharles · 10-19-2008, 07:33 PM

Does the Weapon install guide call for using those springs? Did they even send one?

Come to think of it I don't think I've got mine on... hmmmmm.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-19-2008, 07:38 PM

^^ KOU and i had this discussion this afternoon. it needs the springs...........

ChinoCharles · 10-19-2008, 07:38 PM

I have to change my oil tomorrow anyway. Dammit, I was so ready to be done with the big ratchet...

PHXDEMON · 10-19-2008, 07:41 PM

Like all the previous have said, this probably would not have happened if it was properly installed.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-19-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malaya1221

with this particular setup, i don't get the spring issue...maybe someone could enlighten me...

what so different about this setup????

ChinoCharles · 10-19-2008, 07:44 PM

Without the springs, it isn't like the play between the header and center pipe is gone. It is still there, just without the constant push outward. I'm kind of confused myself to be honest.

Thej3sta2 · 10-19-2008, 08:00 PM

I just want to here how the damn thing sounds like that Loud As F___ im guessing

kou · 10-19-2008, 09:14 PM

the springs are to hold the pipe against the header so when the motor move's it is not trying to pick up and put down the entire exhaust system,there is movement in every direction with the springs. without springs the torquing back and forth will fatigue the metal and crack.dont blame the manufacture for your own mistakes. i have been using this for over a year and it still looks as good as the day i got it.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-19-2008, 09:23 PM

over a year and been on 2 yari........

ChinoCharles · 10-19-2008, 09:55 PM

Thanks for the clarification kou.

kou · 10-19-2008, 10:02 PM

your welcome, just want to make sure that everyone knows that this can happen to any header overtime without the springs,toyota put them there for a reason.

Malaya1221 · 10-19-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kou

the springs are to hold the pipe against the header so when the motor move's it is not trying to pick up and put down the entire exhaust system,there is movement in every direction with the springs. without springs the torquing back and forth will fatigue the metal and crack.dont blame the manufacture for your own mistakes. i have been using this for over a year and it still looks as good as the day i got it.

got it and i'm glad that yours is still in good condition!

it looks like u r an expert on this, so is it fair to ask that when fabricating a header back exhaust or turbo exhaust, the weld will not hold because of the vibrations, movements and weight of the entire exhaust system unless a spring bolt is used to bolt them on?

eco · 10-19-2008, 10:23 PM

Another reason to buy a torque damper for the engine.

kou · 10-19-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malaya1221

got it and i'm glad that yours is still in good condition!

it looks like u r an expert on this, so is it fair to ask that when fabricating a header back exhaust or turbo exhaust, the weld will not hold because of the vibrations, movements and weight of the entire exhaust system unless a spring bolt is used to bolt them on?

header back exhaust should always have some kind of flex joint so that the is some play.turbo is another story as alot of the manifolds are shorter and cast pieces with extra support brackets for the weight of the turbo and down pipe but after that there should be a flex joint.

Malaya1221 · 10-20-2008, 04:53 PM

thanks kou.

Malaya1221 · 10-20-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

what so different about this setup????

have the nitto mid-pipe with the weapon r and while installing it using the oem bolt spring, the screw was all the way to the end of the treads but it still had a gap(fit was not snug) so comes the air leak!

Yoda · 10-20-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eco

Another reason to buy a torque damper for the engine.

^^+

10-19-2008, 07:31 PM	#19
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	funny hearing all the THEY SUCK talk. maybe if installer had used proper hardware this would never had happened.... __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

10-19-2008, 07:38 PM	#21
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	^^ KOU and i had this discussion this afternoon. it needs the springs........... __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

10-19-2008, 09:23 PM	#28
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	over a year and been on 2 yari........ __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

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10-19-2008, 07:33 PM	#20
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Does the Weapon install guide call for using those springs? Did they even send one? Come to think of it I don't think I've got mine on... hmmmmm.

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PHXDEMON View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Red Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 885	Like all the previous have said, this probably would not have happened if it was properly installed.

10-19-2008, 07:44 PM	#25
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Without the springs, it isn't like the play between the header and center pipe is gone. It is still there, just without the constant push outward. I'm kind of confused myself to be honest.

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10-19-2008, 09:55 PM	#29
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Thanks for the clarification kou.

10-19-2008, 10:02 PM	#30
kou View User's Garage Drives: 08 lb Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: nj Posts: 935	your welcome, just want to make sure that everyone knows that this can happen to any header overtime without the springs,toyota put them there for a reason.

10-19-2008, 10:23 PM	#32
eco Drives: 2007 Black Yaris sedan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 884	Another reason to buy a torque damper for the engine.

10-20-2008, 04:53 PM	#34
Malaya1221 super duper M*******TOR Drives: 2007 jahPANIS egg(Sarao Phil) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Torrance, Ca Posts: 1,011	thanks kou.