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05-22-2012, 02:59 AM | #1 |
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anyone know what happened to these?...
I happened to come across some posts about a Holdener intake manifold. Does anyone know what happened to these? Were they ever built and sold?
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05-22-2012, 07:23 AM | #2 |
Contact Cali Yaris. He can answer that or knows more about it.
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05-22-2012, 07:55 AM | #3 |
2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how!
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My understanding is that the shop that was going to fabricate them pulled out due to limited market demand, and possibly the housing/automotive crash of 08/09.
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05-22-2012, 11:17 AM | #4 |
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We're on our second prototype at this point. The next one will be good enough to test with a car on the dyno. If it doesn't make provable power, it's not worth pursuing.
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05-22-2012, 10:45 PM | #5 | |
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Now you got me curious... Is your intake designed with longer runners for low to mid range improvement, or is it going to be for high rpm gain? And will it be a Yaris bolt on, or will it need to be modified like the Weapon R intake? |
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05-22-2012, 11:50 PM | #6 |
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Yaris-compatible, 100% bolt on, both long and short runner versions. If it throws CEL's, we'll tell you. If it doesn't make power, we'll tell you.
I want to know as much as anyone else. Enough to pay for back to back dynos and quite a bit of R&D. Paperweights, anyone?
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05-23-2012, 12:39 AM | #7 |
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Correct, Golden Eagle is a great fabricator. Just like the manifold on my own car, which is proven, anything I have made will come from me. My customers know that. Nice try though.
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05-23-2012, 01:09 AM | #8 | |
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WTF is up with everybody today Garm?
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05-23-2012, 01:14 AM | #9 | |
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05-23-2012, 06:44 AM | #10 |
2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how!
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Am I the only one that has noticed that the more agitated XBG gets, the worse his spelling gets? I.e. your vs you're, ladder vs latter, mabey, equiptment, etc.
Personal pet peeves aside, I have looked into the math involved in designing an intake manifold (google Helmholtz resonator). I'm assuming that Garm has at least done rudimentary calculations to get a base runner length, and wouldn't be surprised to find out that he's had some CFD modeling done to verify flow rates. The hard part here isn't calculating the length or shape of the runners, it's making it fit into a confined space. The OEM intake manifold is very well designed in this regard. As far as credit for designs go, that's pretty tough to prove unless it's a blatant copy. The interface with the head and throttle body are fixed, the confinement dimensions are fixed, and the diameter/length/volume of the runners are all going to be based on some calculations and/or availability of materials. That said, it would be nice if he could give credit for portions of the design that came from someone else. |
05-23-2012, 09:45 AM | #11 |
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Question: If you've been such a big part of the Yaris community, why do you only have 29 posts and a join date of this month? The reason most of us support Garm is because of 5 years more in the community, and over 1200 posts, not to mention superb customer service. I'd rather deal with him and Jeff than someone who gets huffy over whether or not a product was his original design.
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05-23-2012, 10:32 AM | #13 | ||
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^ ooh, that's nice. And clean.
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05-23-2012, 10:48 AM | #14 |
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Garm has been saying since he first announced these that he is working with Golden Eagle. Not sure where the big shocker moment is supposed to come in?
He also backs up all of his products 100%. I don't see where the problem is. Great products, great support, at great pricing. |
05-23-2012, 12:01 PM | #15 |
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^I don't think anyone can afford not to buy from garm haha. Slick operation, yep.
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05-23-2012, 11:41 PM | #16 | |
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I am sure he is approaching a record for number of times banned from the same forum/site as well as times banned overall.
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05-24-2012, 01:05 AM | #17 | |
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some one please ban this guy............................. |
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