Yaris classing - Toyota Yaris Forums

eclip5e · 11-10-2006, 12:54 PM

Lets get together common classing for the Yaris across racing series'es:

I'll keep this first post updated.

SCCA Solo (Auto-x)

Stock (S) - HS
Street Touring (ST) - STS
Street Prepared (SP) - FSP
Street Modified (SM) - SM2
Prepared (P) - EP

SCCA Club

Production (P) - HP?
Grand Touring (GT) - GT3?
Showroom Stock (SS) - SSC?
Improved Touring (IT) - ITB?/ITC?

Lets keep this topic to discussing the cars classification in different race series.

Figuring out which car YOUR car belongs to belongs to a different thread.

Tamago · 12-14-2006, 02:31 PM

actually it would not be in SM2, that's for 2seater cars, not 2door cars :)

kngrsll · 12-14-2006, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

actually it would not be in SM2, that's for 2seater cars, not 2door cars :)

the civic hatchback is in SM2 i think.

Tamago · 12-14-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kngrsll

the civic hatchback is in SM2 i think.

yes but that is an exception, not the rule

Triumph675 · 12-21-2006, 02:11 PM

The Yaris seems to be more favorably classed with NASA.
For Auto-x it is in H Class which consists of older SOHC Civics, Saturns, VW Rabbits, Mitsubishi Mirages and other such vehicles.

Plus, NASA assigns points for modifications(15+ points is a bump up in class) so there is more freedom to choose what mods you can do. Coilovers for example are 9 points so you can do them and still stay in class but not in SCCA H stock(unless they are locked in the stock ride height position).

NASA event generally are much more easy going and relaxed. I have run several of their auto-x events in the last two years and have always had fun.

Tamago · 12-21-2006, 11:50 PM

??

since when can coilovers be in any stock class at autocross??

where did you read this?

Triumph675 · 12-22-2006, 07:49 AM

It's in the rule books.

For SCCA, it states that shocks cannot have more than two dampening settings and must be stock ride height so non-adjustable coilovers are legal as long as they are set to stock ride heights. Many competitors are currently using these non-adjustable coilovers, especially at the national level Pro-Solo 2.

SCCA rulebook. http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/Fil...solo_rules.pdf
page 63.

With NASA, it is simply a matter of points. You have 14 points of mods that you can do and still stay in class. How you use those 14 points is up to you.
They do not list the Yaris yet in their Auto-x rulebook yet and it may get the same 5 point penalty as the xA and Xb do in H Class but you would still be able to use any coilover without any other mods and stay under the 15 point bump up in class rule.

NASA Auto-x classing. http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/n...ses_update.pdf

Tamago · 12-22-2006, 09:14 AM

wow i stand corrected. was this an addition to the rules in 2006?

kngrsll · 12-22-2006, 03:48 PM

i didnt know that! i know alot of S2k guys run motons and ohlins and i often wondered how considering most of them are threaded bodies. ive never noticed that myself, but the SCCA is always meddling with the rules.

Tamago · 12-22-2006, 04:35 PM

yeah, it keeps the rich people fast :(

Triumph675 · 12-22-2006, 05:10 PM

A set of 2-way adjustable Motons could run up to $5000 with springs so they must need to win that auto-x really bad.

Honestly, this is why I like the Yaris, and the whole idea behind racing a car like the Yaris. It's cheap(relative) and not too fast to outdo my skills. I had a 91 Integra track car with a completely stock engine(130hp) and just some suspension work, R compound 14" tires and a Quaife LSD. At track days, all of the Evos and STIs would blow by me on the straights but half way into the infield sections, I would be right on their butts again. It was also amazing how few people actually utilize their brakes to the fullest. I would outbrake Evos and BMWs with my little crappy stock brakes just because they were braking too early and too softly.

kngrsll · 12-23-2006, 01:46 PM

thats one of the most distinctive things about a "good" racing driver, their ability to fully utilize the brakes. instructors will really work with you to really compress those braking zones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triumph675

A set of 2-way adjustable Motons could run up to $5000 with springs so they must need to win that auto-x really bad.

Honestly, this is why I like the Yaris, and the whole idea behind racing a car like the Yaris. It's cheap(relative) and not too fast to outdo my skills. I had a 91 Integra track car with a completely stock engine(130hp) and just some suspension work, R compound 14" tires and a Quaife LSD. At track days, all of the Evos and STIs would blow by me on the straights but half way into the infield sections, I would be right on their butts again. It was also amazing how few people actually utilize their brakes to the fullest. I would outbrake Evos and BMWs with my little crappy stock brakes just because they were braking too early and too softly.

11-10-2006, 12:54 PM	#1
eclip5e Drives: 2004 Subaru WRX Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 7	Yaris classing Lets get together common classing for the Yaris across racing series'es: I'll keep this first post updated. SCCA Solo (Auto-x) Stock (S) - HS Street Touring (ST) - STS Street Prepared (SP) - FSP Street Modified (SM) - SM2 Prepared (P) - EP SCCA Club Production (P) - HP? Grand Touring (GT) - GT3? Showroom Stock (SS) - SSC? Improved Touring (IT) - ITB?/ITC? Lets keep this topic to discussing the cars classification in different race series. Figuring out which car YOUR car belongs to belongs to a different thread. __________________ -Ron Zero Stage Monster / Visual Assault LLC

12-22-2006, 03:48 PM	#9
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	i didnt know that! i know alot of S2k guys run motons and ohlins and i often wondered how considering most of them are threaded bodies. ive never noticed that myself, but the SCCA is always meddling with the rules. __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

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12-14-2006, 02:31 PM	#2
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	actually it would not be in SM2, that's for 2seater cars, not 2door cars :)

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Triumph675 Drives: Skechers Size 11 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 7	The Yaris seems to be more favorably classed with NASA. For Auto-x it is in H Class which consists of older SOHC Civics, Saturns, VW Rabbits, Mitsubishi Mirages and other such vehicles. Plus, NASA assigns points for modifications(15+ points is a bump up in class) so there is more freedom to choose what mods you can do. Coilovers for example are 9 points so you can do them and still stay in class but not in SCCA H stock(unless they are locked in the stock ride height position). NASA event generally are much more easy going and relaxed. I have run several of their auto-x events in the last two years and have always had fun.

12-21-2006, 11:50 PM	#6
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	?? since when can coilovers be in any stock class at autocross?? where did you read this?

12-22-2006, 07:49 AM	#7
Triumph675 Drives: Skechers Size 11 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 7	It's in the rule books. For SCCA, it states that shocks cannot have more than two dampening settings and must be stock ride height so non-adjustable coilovers are legal as long as they are set to stock ride heights. Many competitors are currently using these non-adjustable coilovers, especially at the national level Pro-Solo 2. SCCA rulebook. http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/Fil...solo_rules.pdf page 63. With NASA, it is simply a matter of points. You have 14 points of mods that you can do and still stay in class. How you use those 14 points is up to you. They do not list the Yaris yet in their Auto-x rulebook yet and it may get the same 5 point penalty as the xA and Xb do in H Class but you would still be able to use any coilover without any other mods and stay under the 15 point bump up in class rule. NASA Auto-x classing. http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/n...ses_update.pdf

12-22-2006, 09:14 AM	#8
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	wow i stand corrected. was this an addition to the rules in 2006?

12-22-2006, 04:35 PM	#10
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	yeah, it keeps the rich people fast :(

12-22-2006, 05:10 PM	#11
Triumph675 Drives: Skechers Size 11 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 7	A set of 2-way adjustable Motons could run up to $5000 with springs so they must need to win that auto-x really bad. Honestly, this is why I like the Yaris, and the whole idea behind racing a car like the Yaris. It's cheap(relative) and not too fast to outdo my skills. I had a 91 Integra track car with a completely stock engine(130hp) and just some suspension work, R compound 14" tires and a Quaife LSD. At track days, all of the Evos and STIs would blow by me on the straights but half way into the infield sections, I would be right on their butts again. It was also amazing how few people actually utilize their brakes to the fullest. I would outbrake Evos and BMWs with my little crappy stock brakes just because they were braking too early and too softly.