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11-25-2010, 08:39 PM | #1 |
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Most Reliable Makes of 2010
Saw this on another forum, guess who made the list?
__________________________________ CR: Most Reliable Makes of 2010 1. Scion -Worst Model: xB -Best Model: xD 2. Porsche -Worst Model: 911 -Best Model: Boxster 3. Acura -Worst Model: TL AWD -Best Model: RL 4. Honda -Worst Model: Element -Best Model: CR-V 5. Infiniti -Worst Model: G Coupe -Best Model: G Sedan AWD 6. Toyota -Worst Model: Venza (four-cylinder) -Best Model: Yaris 7. Subaru -Worst Model: Impreza WRX -Best Model: Legacy (four-cylinder) 8. Volvo -Worst Model: XC90 (six-cylinder) -Best Model: C30 9. Lexus 10. Ford -Worst Model: Escape (four-cylinder) -Best Model: Flex EcoBoost ________________________________________________ Top 10 worst, based on CR owner survey reports: 1. Chrysler -Worst Model: Town & Country -Best Model: 300 V8 2. Audi -Worst Model: A6 3.0 TFSI -Best Model: A4 2.0 TSFI 3. Mini -Worst Model: Cooper Convertible -Best Model: Cooper Hatchback 4. Dodge -Worst Model: Journey -Best Model: Ram 1500 2WD 5. BMW -Worst Model: 135i -Best Model: M3 6. Mercedes-Benz -Worst Model: E-Class Coupe -Best Model: E-Class V6 RWD 7. GMC -Worst Model: Yukon Hybrid -Best Model: Yukon XL 2500 8. Jeep -Worst Model: Liberty -Best Model: Patriot 9. Cadillac -Worst Model: STS V6 -Best Model: CTS-V 10. Buick Worst Model: LaCrosse V6 AWD Best Model: Enclave FWD |
11-25-2010, 09:52 PM | #2 |
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Yaris is the most reliable Toyota. Nice! But frankly, no surprise.
Funny how the cheapest car is the most reliable. Then again, it's probably due to its simplicity. |
11-25-2010, 11:20 PM | #3 |
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I don't understand this list, it makes no sense. So they have best and worst makes, and best and worst models within the makes. So is a best model in the 'worst' list a reliable model, or is it just the best of the worst making it a worse model????
Same for the opposite; is the worst model from a 'best manufacturer' a reliable car because it is the least good of the really good. Or is it just plain bad? The list is stupid and whoever made it should be shot. They really should have eliminated the worst models from the 'best' list and also the best models from the 'worst' list.
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11-25-2010, 11:26 PM | #4 | |
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Sorry for the rant and thanks for the post. It's awesome the Yaris got a top 10, but I hate publications that put out jargon studies and results. . . but I haven't read the actual source article, so maybe they explain it in detail?
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11-26-2010, 12:27 AM | #5 |
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I thought it is pretty self explanatory.
Ranking 1 - 10 most reliable car brand, and 1 - 10 worst car brand. Then in each brand: best and worst car. So Scion is the most reliable brand but its least reliable is in xB and most is in xD; the rest like tC, xA, etc are in between. Combine overall reliability of all models in Scion, the rank is 1. All I have to say is WOW. Yaris does better than Corolla, Camry, and even 4Runner! Thank God I made the right decision. |
11-26-2010, 12:32 AM | #6 |
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Yes I know that, but I'm saying is that it's a useless ranking. How do you know if an xD is better than an A4? They should have points system too if they break it down by model or just leave it to brands straight up. And is the total tally by individual car or a cumulative average of all the models. It's very vague, ambiguous, and makes it easy to fudge results. I spent a lot of time doing stats and prefer these "studies" to be very exact. Sorry for the rant, it's just a personal pet peeve.
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11-26-2010, 03:18 PM | #7 |
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ill take the element anytime vs crv...
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12-02-2010, 12:41 AM | #8 |
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Yeah, the ranking is confusing. They have a list of worst cars and then they have worst and best among the worst. This is a total idiocy. There can only be 1 worst and 1 best...
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Just imagine the headline. . . "Scion xD Worst Reliable Car According to CR," of course that is within the Scion line out of the MOST reliable group. What the heck does that even mean? HAHAHAHAHA. Garbage literary BS, that's what. Headline, "Chrysler 300 Rated CR's "Best" reliable vehicle."
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12-02-2010, 10:28 AM | #10 |
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^ I agreed with your point too. It kind of makes sense to say what the most reliable model within each of the most reliable brands is, such as the Yaris within Toyota. But other than that... "worst model" among "most reliable brand" and "best model" among "least reliable brand" is kind of pointless or confusing.
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12-02-2010, 10:56 AM | #11 |
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To make this more confusing, the rankings are based on average of all models within the brand. So Yaris could actually be more reliable than xD. Maybe Toyota Venza is so bad that it drops Toyota from number 1 to number 6, but still Yaris is number 1 over every automobiles.
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12-02-2010, 11:37 AM | #12 |
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-Worst Model: Cooper Convertible -Best Model: Cooper Hatchback I see them as the same car with the only difference is one can make its roof magically disappear and leave a giant hole. |
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12-02-2010, 11:41 AM | #13 |
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12-02-2010, 11:50 AM | #14 |
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I would venture a guess given some of the data I've seen that the Yaris is the most reliable car made.
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You can learn a lot about cars when you work at a dealer as I did and get to drive all makes and models with all levels of age and mileage. I couldn't believe the difference I saw between my car (now at 97,000 miles) and others that were falling apart with less mileage. My car hasn't needed even one repair. It feels brand new, literally. We have seen other extreme examples like Trini_per4mance's Yaris with 420,000 miles and only one minor repair. And I'll be honest, even the other Toyota's I saw couldn't compare with how well the Yaris is standing up. On the surface, the Yaris seems cheaply built, but this car is bullet proof. |
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12-02-2010, 03:11 PM | #16 |
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After seeing the Venza's model, I do wonder how the Sienna ranks for reliability. |
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