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05-26-2011, 09:14 AM | #1 |
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Oil Change Help Filter Stuck
Well the Yaris is my first car that I've bought, and I want to do the maintenance on it. I've read up in the Oil change thread of how to do it.
The problem is I can't get the oil filter off. It is a firestone filter so I know it's been changed at least once before (I'm at 30,000) and hopefully more often. Should I just get a clamp and just haul on it? The problem is I saw this video on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNEbVPYLGMo and I don't want this to happen to me. Are there any tricks or any advice? Many thanks in advance. |
05-26-2011, 10:53 AM | #2 |
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it shouldn't be on there so tight that you rip it to shreads when removing, hand tight is all that I ever put mine to, try a filter wrench (think thats what they're called)
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05-26-2011, 11:36 AM | #3 |
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There are a few different kinds of wrenches you can use. I've found tha the "cap" type that you use with a socket wrench works best.
I did have a situation where mine was stuck on there pretty good and had to stab a screwdriver through the body of the filter to get it off. I had tried to use the cap wrench but it kept losing grip on the flats of the filter. Just be sure that when you put the new one on that you rub a little oil on the rubber gasket and only hand tighten it. Don't use a tool to put it on. |
05-26-2011, 01:05 PM | #4 |
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Many years ago, I also had to drive a screwdriver through a filter to break it loose.
It wiil work in a pinch. However, a cheap "band" type filter wrench will work on many different size filters and sould be be in everyone's collection of tools. |
05-26-2011, 01:34 PM | #5 |
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I use a clamp type oil filter wrench, it works perfect. looks like the item below in the link
http://www.tools2parts.com/Plews-70-535-p/4740-8109.htm |
05-26-2011, 02:06 PM | #6 |
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Screwdriver works, but it's gonna get messy. I keep a selection of filter wrenches, haven't had to use a screwdriver since.
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05-26-2011, 02:40 PM | #7 |
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Screwdrivers may have worked as a last resort back in the day filters were made of sterner stuff,todays filter casing is on par with paper and putting a screwdriver through it will just rip it to shreds and leave you with chiseling whats left to get it off, if the filter is on so tight that you will tear it up trying to get it off why not just let the local oil change shop do the first oil/filter change and tell the guy not to put the filter on too tight.
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05-26-2011, 02:44 PM | #8 |
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The last guy that installed the filter must've not only torqued it with a filter wrench, but he probably also failed to oil the rubber seal and tread before installing.
A 64mm cap wrench (about $10 at any auto part store) definitely breaks it loose quickly. Just be sure you got the drain pan directly underneath because it will spill a little as you loosen it. It'll spill more if it drops.
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05-26-2011, 03:23 PM | #9 | |
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05-26-2011, 03:36 PM | #10 | |
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I find it kind of strange that so many have had issues with the Yaris filters being too tight. I don't ever recall having this problem with any of my other vehicles. |
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05-26-2011, 05:40 PM | #11 | ||
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Thanks everybody for your quick responses. I was working on it this morning and took a break until just now. I'm thinking of a couple options
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What does everybody use for filters, I'm thinking of Wix seems like pretty good for the price. |
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05-26-2011, 07:00 PM | #12 |
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I honestly assumed all filters had the same ridges to fit its' matching-sized cap wrench. If that's not true then I would opt for the clamp wrench instead just in case.
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05-26-2011, 08:51 PM | #13 | |
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Yeah I have this mechanic that is pretty good down the street, they looked over my car before I bought it and pointed out a couple things (air filter + radiator replacement) that I needed to get fixed before I bought the car. So from what I can tell they are a pretty good place, I'm debating having them do it so I don't make a mess of things but make sure to ask them not to ratchet it on too tight. I've only put about 2,000 miles on the Yaris since I bought it but I'd rather err on the side of caution with replacing the oil because they didn't have a record of when it was changed. The oil does look pretty clean, still a light-amber color but for the price I figure why not get it done. |
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05-26-2011, 10:03 PM | #14 |
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Those cheap black sheet metal filter caps tend to "hop" under heavy tourque when trying to remove a stuck filter. I have one made of a die cast metal alloy that doesn't twist or flex under load. As for filters, I use only OEM. They have an o ring , unlike aftermarkets that use a flat gasket. I try to stick to dealer parts as much as possible..
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05-27-2011, 03:55 AM | #16 |
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screwdriver and drill will work, will be messy.
strap filter wrench is the my tool of choice for this problem. http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...T|GRP2082_____ bought it for another car 5 years ago, used for my yaris last year, never fail me yet. |
05-27-2011, 06:33 AM | #17 |
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I've used a C-clamp twice in the past when even a strap filter wrench wouldn't work. It dents the filter but won't pierce it. Only happened when I bought a used car. One reason to do it yourself, hand tighten on and hand remove.
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05-27-2011, 06:37 PM | #18 |
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This one looks nice and looks like it would work well. Also the C-clamp idea recommended above... I suppose I could use one with big shoes on it and get it to turn. Thanks for the help everybody. These suggestions are definitely better than what I found by googling. On a side note I'm overjoyed at the fact that I got 39.5 mpg on my last tank, with about 90% highway driving at 65 mph and 10% city driving. Air conditioner on about 60 % of the time. What a car! Happy trails |
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