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01-05-2009, 05:54 PM | #1 |
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Mobil-1 5W-30 does not meet SM/SL standards?
check it at this professional webzine:
http://www.jobbersworld.com/December%2011,%202008.htm the bro |
01-05-2009, 05:58 PM | #2 |
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Here is a short explanation ( with photos!) of the sequence iva test
http://www.swri.org/4org/d08/GasTest...st/default.htm |
01-05-2009, 07:42 PM | #3 |
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Interesting. I had already been planning to switch to SynPower simple because (at Walmart) it's $19 for a 5 quart jug vs. $26+ for Mobile 1.
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01-05-2009, 08:58 PM | #4 |
Me too...I'm due for an oil change and was considering making the switch from Mobil 1; this cements the deal.
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01-05-2009, 09:17 PM | #5 | |
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good stuff , good value .
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01-05-2009, 09:29 PM | #6 |
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Gid being the bargain hunter:
$10 off coupon ( mial in rebate) at valvoline site on 5qts of Synpower - I saw this while watching a vid of their testing lab which is cool now where do I buy synpower at the cheapest price??? I may not want it though - I still think synpower its a grpIII mix. I want the jet engine oil! polyol=ester or di=ester. This is the ONLY real stuff in my book and is the "old school syn people think about. Make GOBS of power and leaks out all over the place - gotta love it. This is the real stuff HERE> http://www.kemopro.com/productinfo/engine.html but I dont know if I trust the blender |
01-05-2009, 09:32 PM | #7 |
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Crapo! I just fully read Gid's post above about the rebate too - I shoulda known he would be on this like a rabid dog on a red squirrel
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01-05-2009, 09:16 PM | #8 |
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Sheetah! Some guy told me a while ago that Valvoline Synthetic oil was better than Mobil-1. I thought he was just blowing smoke.
I may switch on my next oil change. Shame on Mobil-1. They took their eye off the ball! http://www.valvoline.com/synpower-wearprotection/index.asp?utm_source=brandpage&utm_medium=landingp age&utm_campaign=synpower%2Bpromotion Valvoline ain't shy about their claim either!
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01-05-2009, 09:36 PM | #9 |
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I hear ( and you UOA guys can confirm this) The Valvoline maxlife is better than the synpower - but does it have the API approval or does it have too much antiwear additive to meet SM? Back to the valvoline site ... ...
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01-07-2009, 01:39 PM | #10 | |
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It's SM-rated, but does not qualify for the energy-efficiency starburst. |
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01-06-2009, 04:52 AM | #11 |
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these are the days it pays to be a tight.
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01-06-2009, 10:40 AM | #12 |
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Good read on various oils http://www.baileycar.com/engine_lube_html.htm
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01-07-2009, 11:15 AM | #13 | |
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Not sure i'd hang Mobil1 out to dry on the strength of 1 anonomous letter,probably from one of Mobil's competitors,probably Valvoline. |
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01-07-2009, 12:54 PM | #14 |
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They (Valvoline) have issued multiple official letters clearly stating that sampling of the 5W-30 M1 does not meet SL or SM minimum standards and is not appropriate for use in current motor vehicles under warranty. I'll look for letter ... . I am not taking any sides here - I've gotten rotten batches of oil from Valvoline AND Mobil. Could have be a EOM Management decision to release underperforming material - happens all the time in even the most stringent arenas ( medical, aerospace, communications tech, auto tech). Look at the Columbia disaster for an prime example of Management incompetence or carelessness
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01-07-2009, 12:58 PM | #15 |
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open letter from valvoline:
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01-07-2009, 11:29 AM | #16 |
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this could be why i dropped mpg when i switch to mobil1 synth...significant drop.. lost about 30 km on a 36 liter tank,..
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01-07-2009, 12:10 PM | #17 |
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The trend around some of the communities I visit is that people are distancing themselves from Mobil synthetic oils especially the 5-30. People noted oil analysis (back to back) that showed higher metal contents. I am considering switching but am not totally sold on the fact yet.
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01-07-2009, 01:05 PM | #18 |
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Interesting ... I'll have to do some research, too. I've run two oil changes worth of Mobile 1 5w 30. No noticeable increase (or decrease) in mileage, though.
I'm not doubting Valvoline makes a great product; I'd just be leery of any marketing hype.
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