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Old 09-07-2007, 11:03 AM   #1
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Please give me an answer to : fat and muscle

Ok people i hate this saying:

"MUSCLE WEIGHS MORE THAN FAT"

10 pounds of Muscle will be the exact same as 10 pounds of fat............

10 Pounds of muscle will sink in water and 10 Pounds of fat will float. Thus this doesnt prove this "fact; muscle weighs more than fat." This just proves that muscle will sink and fat will float. This has nothing to do with their weight difference!!!!

Ever heard that riddle?
What weighs more? 1 Pound of bricks or 1 pound of feathers?? THEY ARE THE SAME!!!!

Thats my thaught of it, and no one can change my opinon :)

Your opinion guys?
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:10 AM   #2
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yes, it's a little thing called density... for a given volume (one cubic foot for example), muscle will weigh more than fat.

Or, in other words, one pound of bricks is a heck of a lot smaller than one pound of feathers!
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:42 AM   #3
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Yup, 10lbs. is 10lbs. Period. But, as Thomas pointed out, it's all about density; that is, how heavy something is compared to its size.
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:44 AM   #4
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yes, it's a little thing called density... for a given volume (one cubic foot for example), muscle will weigh more than fat.

Or, in other words, one pound of bricks is a heck of a lot smaller than one pound of feathers!
yea i do agree if you put both muscle and fat in one cubic foot, that is volume not weight....but thats measuring it not weighing it.....do i make sense?
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:51 AM   #5
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volume and weight are linked by density... If you're comparing weight ONLY then yes, one pound is one pound, feather or brick, fat or muscle.

But when you talk about stuff floating or sinking when they weight the same, then density comes into play.

And when people say muscle weights more than fat, it's to explain why a fit, muscular guy can weigh the same as a big fat slob while the slob is way bigger
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:59 AM   #6
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:06 PM   #7
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Doesn't it also have to due with the buoyancy of the objects
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:40 PM   #8
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i think bouyancy is directly related to density. technically it is mass not weight right?
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Smaller, compact, long muscle cells vs. fat cells that take up space but are bulky? Maybe?
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Fat floats and pure muscle sinks in water. Fat with muscle is a good ribeye steak and that is awesome on the grill. I'm hungry now!!!
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yea i do agree if you put both muscle and fat in one cubic foot, that is volume not weight....but thats measuring it not weighing it.....do i make sense?
Weight is a measurement.
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Doesn't it also have to due with the buoyancy of the objects
Yeah buoyancy is basically the difference in density between a liquid and an object in this liquid... For example, foam will float in water because it has very low density compared to the water. But, AFAIK, there is no actual measure of buoyancy, it's just a general term.
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But, AFAIK, there is no actual measure of buoyancy, it's just a general term.
Buoyancy is the amount of lift created by a body iof lower density than the liquid it is floating in. A boat is at rest on the surface when the buoyancy is equal to the boat's weight .
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aye aye cap'n!

What I meant is, there is no actual unit of buoyancy, is there?
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What I meant is, there is no actual unit of buoyancy, is there?
I just checked every book I have (too many) and cannot find a reference to actual units beyond a measure for "reserve buoyancy" - the amount of buoyancy gained when a boat pokes its nose into a wave that it cannot rise quickly enough to ride over. Reserve buoyancy was quoted in cubic feet of displacement (effectively, pounds) or as a percentage of the whole boat's mass.
So, yeah, you're right.
Maybe I should steal the idea an copyright a "Michelin Man" as the unit for buoyancy...
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