Throttle position used as cruise control? HELP - Toyota Yaris Forums

Appalachian Trail 2007 · 10-23-2008, 07:14 PM

I need some help with a project I'm working on. I'm trying to figure out a way to install a dial of some sort to control the throttle position. It would act as a type of cruise control though my speed would fluctuate as the terrain changed. I know that the yaris has a drive by wire throttle system so I'm wondering if any of you have seen something that would electronically lock-in a throttle position and disengage when the clutch or brake were pressed.

Thanks for any help

-Dave

battleversiontc · 10-23-2008, 09:57 PM

just buy a cruise control its cheaper and prolly ten times easier to hook up

Appalachian Trail 2007 · 10-23-2008, 10:19 PM

thanks for the help but I don't want a cruise control...I want a throttle control

Reddog99 · 10-24-2008, 01:20 PM

Jam a wooden doorstop next to the gas pedal...

ddongbap · 10-24-2008, 05:18 PM

Wait, I don't get what hes saying. A cruise control IS a throttle control. A cruise control also turns off when you tap the brake, or hit the clutch. Soo... I don't quite understand what else he could be looking for.

battleversiontc · 10-24-2008, 07:04 PM

thats what i was saying

CTScott · 10-24-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ddongbap

Wait, I don't get what hes saying. A cruise control IS a throttle control. A cruise control also turns off when you tap the brake, or hit the clutch. Soo... I don't quite understand what else he could be looking for.

Cruise control regulates the vehicle speed by controlling the throttle. He wants to just control the throttle position without worrying about speed. I assume that the purpose would be to allow tight control of fuel usage.

Besides the brake killing it, I would think to keep it safe you would also need to have a vehicle speed cut-off to keep it from running away when going down hill.

Appalachian Trail 2007 · 10-24-2008, 08:55 PM

exactly CTScott, thank you for the first useful post

Reddog99 · 10-24-2008, 11:20 PM

You're probably thinking of a throttle lock like what is commonly is used on many motorcycles. Unfortunately, all the bikes that use those have throttle cables, not electrical "fly-by-wire" throttle controls.

All modern cruise controls make use of computerized "black boxes" to control the vehicle speed, either built-in or aftermarket (the Rostra comes to mind, with two boxes). What you're asking for would be quite an engineering project. And you would probably the only customer...

metalshark · 11-09-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Appalachian Trail 2007

thanks for the help but I don't want a cruise control...I want a throttle control

What you are looking for is a potentiometer with the same resistance curve as your throttle pedal sensor. You'd need to use an ohmmeter to measure the resistance of the pedal to get the right one. Then you need a 12 volt ice-cube relay with a start button and a seal-in to transfer control from the pedal to your new dial. The brake light switch could be used to disengage your control transfer relay if it had a resister in it's ground path of the right size. I've thought about doing this project as a DIY. You can get better mileage with this setup under hyper-mile concepts because you scrub off speed up hill and pick up speed down hill. I've already got Rostra cruise, but I think your a-barkin up the right tree with this concept.

eTiMaGo · 11-09-2008, 06:46 AM

Look through the technical manuals posted in the DIY section. The electronic throttle uses two circuits (for safety in case one fails) and seems pretty straightforward...

Appalachian Trail 2007 · 11-09-2008, 11:10 PM

thank you both for your help perhaps I'll actually be able to pull it off.

10-23-2008, 07:14 PM	#1
Appalachian Trail 2007 View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 80	Throttle position used as cruise control? HELP I need some help with a project I'm working on. I'm trying to figure out a way to install a dial of some sort to control the throttle position. It would act as a type of cruise control though my speed would fluctuate as the terrain changed. I know that the yaris has a drive by wire throttle system so I'm wondering if any of you have seen something that would electronically lock-in a throttle position and disengage when the clutch or brake were pressed. Thanks for any help -Dave __________________ 3,441,567,453 posts BH (Before Hack)

10-23-2008, 09:57 PM	#2
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10-23-2008, 10:19 PM	#3
Appalachian Trail 2007 View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 80	thanks for the help but I don't want a cruise control...I want a throttle control __________________ 3,441,567,453 posts BH (Before Hack)

10-24-2008, 07:04 PM	#6
battleversiontc View User's Garage Drives: 08 vip yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 808 Posts: 501	thats what i was saying __________________ 08 junction produce belta almost done and ready for paint 06 junction produce tc 604 bhp 445tq ddriven still trying for 700+hp 90 crx sir ls vtec turbo 755 hp mecp masters certified

10-24-2008, 08:55 PM	#8
Appalachian Trail 2007 View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 80	exactly CTScott, thank you for the first useful post __________________ 3,441,567,453 posts BH (Before Hack)

10-24-2008, 01:20 PM	#4
Reddog99 Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal (Jamul) Posts: 97	Jam a wooden doorstop next to the gas pedal...

10-24-2008, 05:18 PM	#5
ddongbap Banned Drives: yw calls me douche and racist. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hay Posts: 2,183	Wait, I don't get what hes saying. A cruise control IS a throttle control. A cruise control also turns off when you tap the brake, or hit the clutch. Soo... I don't quite understand what else he could be looking for.

10-24-2008, 11:20 PM	#9
Reddog99 Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal (Jamul) Posts: 97	You're probably thinking of a throttle lock like what is commonly is used on many motorcycles. Unfortunately, all the bikes that use those have throttle cables, not electrical "fly-by-wire" throttle controls. All modern cruise controls make use of computerized "black boxes" to control the vehicle speed, either built-in or aftermarket (the Rostra comes to mind, with two boxes). What you're asking for would be quite an engineering project. And you would probably the only customer...

11-09-2008, 06:46 AM	#11
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	Look through the technical manuals posted in the DIY section. The electronic throttle uses two circuits (for safety in case one fails) and seems pretty straightforward... __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

11-09-2008, 11:10 PM	#12
Appalachian Trail 2007 View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 80	thank you both for your help perhaps I'll actually be able to pull it off. __________________ 3,441,567,453 posts BH (Before Hack)

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