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Old 06-22-2012, 09:23 PM   #1
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US Yaris to be imported from France ?

New Yaris to be imported from France ? Is there any truth to the link below.
I personally believe that the Japan made Yaris' are just the best.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...us-market.html
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:30 PM   #2
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Interesting.

I would not doubt it, as the TMMF facility seems to be very capable. I did a bunch of research on visiting it, but couldn't talk my wife and kids into it when we were in France two summers ago.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:20 PM   #3
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In theory, would that give us access to the 1.0, 1.3 and 1.8 liter engines, as well as the 6 speed manual and CVT from Europe?
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:23 PM   #4
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In theory, would that give us access to the 1.0, 1.3 and 1.8 liter engines, as well as the 6 speed manual and CVT from Europe?
I would say that's a good theory, as it would let the 1NZ-FE go into retirement.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:41 AM   #5
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oh no not the French, bunch of smelly hairy savages, what do they know about building cars? ;)
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:19 AM   #6
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:33 AM   #7
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My dad used to take me to watch local rally races when I was a kid, and the Renault 5 (aka LeCar)'s were my favorite... Though those were the mad mid-engined versions :D So yeah, I would grab one in a heartbeat :D
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:26 PM   #8
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That would eliminate the very reason for purchasing a Yaris... 100% Japanese parts and assembly. I have read that the French version, while a decent vehicle, in no measures up to the all Japaneses version. It also would in all likelyhood make it harder to get exact fit OEM parts for 2012 Japanese Yaris owners.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #9
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That would eliminate the very reason for purchasing a Yaris... 100% Japanese parts and assembly. I have read that the French version, while a decent vehicle, in no measures up to the all Japaneses version. It also would in all likelyhood make it harder to get exact fit OEM parts for 2012 Japanese Yaris owners.
The Toyota Production System virtually eliminates quality variations from the same vehicle produced in different plants.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:07 PM   #10
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The Toyota Production System virtually eliminates quality variations from the same vehicle produced in different plants.
It is that virtually that is the problem. Just like VW's and BMW's made in Germany are much better than those made in the US, Toyota's made in Japan are better than those from the US, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are better than the ones in France. The Japanese simply take more pride in what they do.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:13 PM   #11
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then by that reasoning my Made in Thailand Yaris should be third-world-grade? We've seen a lot less recalls and TSBs than the Japan-made USDM ones, just sayin'...
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:19 PM   #12
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...Toyota's made in Japan are better than those from the US...
That's because, like a lot of people, you are preprogrammed to believe that. I'll say the same thing I always say with this argument.....prove it. And I don't mean that your uncle's brother's cousin's mechanic said it....I mean real-world hard evidence.
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The Toyota Production System virtually eliminates quality variations from the same vehicle produced in different plants.
Please prove this unsubstantiated "fact".

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Old 06-24-2012, 09:25 AM   #14
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Please prove this unsubstantiated "fact".
You should Google "Toyota Production System" and read up on how Toyota produces vehicles.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:18 AM   #15
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You should Google "Toyota Production System" and read up on how Toyota produces vehicles.
It was noted during the investigations into the pedal sticking issue, etc that Toyota's QoS was not on par in the plants in NA as they are in Japan. This could turn into a sticky wicket and seriously political quick so I will only say I wouldn't count out a Yaris built in France as long as it was proven through time that they are of the same build quality as Japan.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:30 AM   #16
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....pedal sticking issue...
This was not a assembly line related issue. Completely out of the hands of the people putting the vehicle together.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:35 AM   #17
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I had a French built Mk2 Yaris and although reasonably well put together, many of the parts were EU made and sourced. To be brutally honest the quality of these components left a lot to be desired. Particularly the plastics used for the interior - absolutely cheap and nasty. Their fit and finish was poor too which meant driving a car with the radio volume high to overcome the numerous creaks and rattles resulting from the poor fit.
I have examined the Mk 3 and not driven one but the interior components in that were, in my opinion, still cheap quality and poorly put together. Although it is still a Toyota and alleged better quality control, the French cannot assemble a car very well at all.
So I do sympathise if French Yaris are imported to N. America!
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:18 AM   #18
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I had a French built Mk2 Yaris and although reasonably well put together, many of the parts were EU made and sourced. To be brutally honest the quality of these components left a lot to be desired. Particularly the plastics used for the interior - absolutely cheap and nasty. Their fit and finish was poor too which meant driving a car with the radio volume high to overcome the numerous creaks and rattles resulting from the poor fit.
I have examined the Mk 3 and not driven one but the interior components in that were, in my opinion, still cheap quality and poorly put together. Although it is still a Toyota and alleged better quality control, the French cannot assemble a car very well at all.
So I do sympathise if French Yaris are imported to N. America!
The interior components have never been the strong point of any Yaris regardless of it's production location or final destination. That tends to be the product of it's "entry level" status and price point....and the '12 N. American version is no exception. That said...whatever quality/tolerance targets Toyota has set for the N.A. Yaris will be dublicated for the French produced N.A. bound version....rest assured.
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