Toyota sandbagging the Yaris - Toyota Yaris Forums

jambo101 · 07-19-2010, 05:17 PM

"but when I went to the Toyota site, it's listed only at 29/36."
A quote from another forum when i suggested the Yaris for the op's search for an economical car thats not a hybrid

I'm sure every one here knows the Yaris is easily capable of +40mpg with easy driving style, how come Toyota hasnt figured it out?.
In fact its almost as if Toyota doesnt like the Yaris as i see no advertising for the Yaris lineup

yarrr · 07-19-2010, 05:28 PM

uhhhhh. The epa figured out the 29/36. Not toyota. And the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

Rain · 07-19-2010, 05:30 PM

You should also consider the EPA testing standards

jpmck03 · 07-19-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by yarrr

...the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

I've gotten 42 mpg on a very safe trip driving to my parents place and back. It involved properly inflated tires, following the speed limit, and none of that dangerous rolling-downhill-with-the-engine-off-and-running-through-stop-signs hypermiling crap. It's very doable.

fnkngrv · 07-19-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by yarrr

uhhhhh. The epa figured out the 29/36. Not toyota. And the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

Ummm....prolly should make sure that if you are going to make a statement like that then you back it up rather than just a one liner. There are plenty of safe habits that can easily bump you into the 40+ range if that is your cup of tea. I did it on a regular basis prior to my mods without "dangerous" habits. For example making sure that you shift before hitting the 2k RPM mark when feasible will get you over the 36MPG mark they claim. You are not over inflating your tires for example if you put them to the max of 40-42 PSI. I know with my Falken's Falken actually instructed me to inflate to that pressure for my 912's. Just sayin...

41magmag41 · 07-19-2010, 06:53 PM

I routinly get 38 to 41 with my sedan with an automatic and a/c on the interstate running 75 or so. The yaris is capable of excellent mileage with a little care.

Kal-El · 07-19-2010, 08:06 PM

Just arrived from a 900 mile road trip (MA - TN) with an approximately 650 pound load. Averaged 75 MPH with AC the whole way. Did 38.5 MPG with no special techniques.

127.0.0.1 · 07-19-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jpmck03

I've gotten 42 mpg on a very safe trip driving to my parents place and back. It involved properly inflated tires, following the speed limit, and none of that dangerous rolling-downhill-with-the-engine-off-and-running-through-stop-signs hypermiling crap. It's very doable.

bu only flat and slow. can't do that with 'ordinary average use' for epa rating

BailOut · 07-19-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by yarrr

uhhhhh. The epa figured out the 29/36. Not toyota. And the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

brg88tx · 07-19-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by yarrr

uhhhhh. The epa figured out the 29/36. Not toyota. And the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

wrong, i do not overinflate or do any other hypermiling techniques and i got a little over 40 mpg on my last tank of about 50% city, 50% highway driving, running the a/c most of the time.

Chuck G · 07-19-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 41magmag41

I routinly get 38 to 41 with my sedan with an automatic and a/c on the interstate running 75 or so. The yaris is capable of excellent mileage with a little care.

Me too!!

Hershey · 07-19-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by yarrr

uhhhhh. The epa figured out the 29/36. Not toyota. And the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

Not so , I keep tire pressure at 34 > 36 p.s.i. and use ECO-METER to easily achieve 40+ m.p.g.. The warmer the weather the better the performance . Don't turn off car when stopped or coasting . That's getting risky ( for me ) . Have nailed 40+ many times without the assistance of the E.M.. Both are automatics . Most times include 2 people ( other 1/2 and I ) . 40+ with 3 riding on occasion . Pulse and glide . Learned that from the '07 PRIUS we had . Can be applied to YARIS or any other vehicle for improving fuel economy .

Hershey · 07-19-2010, 11:48 PM

Here's an example : 2008 base sedan w/ automatic ; 2 people , 89 octane , tires at 35 p.s.i. , Shell 5w-30 conventional , 84 degrees , winds of 20+ m.p.h. , many hills , and average speed of 48 m.p.h.. Mileage is actually little more . Likely closer to 44 . The ECO-METER is set at 98 and reads lower than the calculated fills of gas and miles . Setting of 99 reads too high . No in betweens .

SilverBack · 07-20-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Ummm....prolly should make sure that if you are going to make a statement like that then you back it up rather than just a one liner. There are plenty of safe habits that can easily bump you into the 40+ range if that is your cup of tea. I did it on a regular basis prior to my mods without "dangerous" habits. For example making sure that you shift before hitting the 2k RPM mark when feasible will get you over the 36MPG mark they claim. You are not over inflating your tires for example if you put them to the max of 40-42 PSI. I know with my Falken's Falken actually instructed me to inflate to that pressure for my 912's. Just sayin...

Exactly. I'm running Falken 502's @ 40 PSI all around without hypermiling, and right now I'm averaging 36/38 MPG. Anyone who's claiming MPG readings close to 30 is full of shit. Sorry

KRAZGRL · 07-20-2010, 02:57 AM

I pretty much always get about 35-38mpg. I blame soCal traffic and driving up hills (it's not flat here) for not breaking the 40mpg mark. I may take the car to Vegas... I'm really interested in how it will do.

jambo101 · 07-20-2010, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarrr

uhhhhh. The epa figured out the 29/36. Not toyota. And the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

The EPA may have that number representing the Yaris but obviously Toyota Approves of it as thats the numbers it posts on its website,
My car with no mods and 35psi in the tires gets 44 to 45mpg when cruising on the highway at 70mph and if i go 55mph that figure goes up close to 50mpg,there may be many people who are looking for a car with that kind of economy as an alternative to a hybrid but if Toyota is advertising 29/36 rather than 38/50 those people may look elsewhere.

firemachine69 · 07-20-2010, 07:54 AM

EPA estimates are based on normal ass-hat style "stomp-go-brake" driving.

With the A/C on.

On an engine that isn't even fully broken-in.

bronsin · 07-20-2010, 08:51 AM

Just FYI: no one stops for stop signs in NJ! Just check it out!

07-19-2010, 05:17 PM	#1
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	Toyota sandbagging the Yaris "but when I went to the Toyota site, it's listed only at 29/36." A quote from another forum when i suggested the Yaris for the op's search for an economical car thats not a hybrid I'm sure every one here knows the Yaris is easily capable of +40mpg with easy driving style, how come Toyota hasnt figured it out?. In fact its almost as if Toyota doesnt like the Yaris as i see no advertising for the Yaris lineup

07-19-2010, 11:48 PM	#13
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Here's an example : 2008 base sedan w/ automatic ; 2 people , 89 octane , tires at 35 p.s.i. , Shell 5w-30 conventional , 84 degrees , winds of 20+ m.p.h. , many hills , and average speed of 48 m.p.h.. Mileage is actually little more . Likely closer to 44 . The ECO-METER is set at 98 and reads lower than the calculated fills of gas and miles . Setting of 99 reads too high . No in betweens . Attached Images

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07-19-2010, 05:28 PM	#2
yarrr Banned Drives: 07 sedan Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: new mexico Posts: 292	uhhhhh. The epa figured out the 29/36. Not toyota. And the yaris can't safely get 40 mpg in most situations. It involves over inflated tires and other dangerous driving habits.

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Rain help! my Yaris shrunk! Drives: 12 Hot Lava iQ/07 Jade Vios Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,748	You should also consider the EPA testing standards

07-19-2010, 06:53 PM	#6
41magmag41 Drives: Loaded 2007 mica silver sedan Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New hampshire Posts: 226	I routinly get 38 to 41 with my sedan with an automatic and a/c on the interstate running 75 or so. The yaris is capable of excellent mileage with a little care.

07-19-2010, 08:06 PM	#7
Kal-El Drives: 07 Yaris S Sedan 5-Speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,179	Just arrived from a 900 mile road trip (MA - TN) with an approximately 650 pound load. Averaged 75 MPH with AC the whole way. Did 38.5 MPG with no special techniques.

07-20-2010, 02:57 AM	#15
KRAZGRL Crazy Girl (Kasey) Drives: 09 Yaris 3D; 05 R6; 00civic si Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 383	I pretty much always get about 35-38mpg. I blame soCal traffic and driving up hills (it's not flat here) for not breaking the 40mpg mark. I may take the car to Vegas... I'm really interested in how it will do.

07-20-2010, 07:54 AM	#17
firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	EPA estimates are based on normal ass-hat style "stomp-go-brake" driving. With the A/C on. On an engine that isn't even fully broken-in.

07-20-2010, 08:51 AM	#18
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