2020 Yaris Hatchback for the US

[justanotherdrunk]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...onfirmed-2020/


i prefer this

https://www.thetorquereport.com/toyo...badged-mazda2/

[Leegamer]

[atomic_hoji]

Originally Posted by Leegamer

^ this accurately summarizes it.
-- Adam

[Dodge Aries K]

That's disgusting.

[matti]

Gross!

As an aside, how is the predicted reliability of the new Toyota Yaris (Mazda) sedans? Would we expect the 2020 Yaris (Mazda) hatch to have same reliability as a true Toyota Yaris hatch?

Also, what is the most reliable hatch in the U.S. right now? Honda Fit?

[ern-diz]

Yeah, reliability figures go out the window at that point. I really don't like these partnerships.

[myfirstyota]

Find a Mazda 3 that's over 4 years old with out rust. There's your quality.

[Leegamer]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

Find a Mazda 3 that's over 4 years old with out rust. There's your quality.

My daughter wants a 2nd gen (09-13) mazda 3 for her first car and I'm thinking it would be a good first car. Do you have experience with them?

Rust isn't really much of an issue where I live.

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

Find a Mazda 3 that's over 4 years old with out rust. There's your quality.

Wow our mazda5 2012 is well, 7 years old now, 110000km and has no rust. Nothing that comes out of the cracks or corners. All doors are perfect. Nothing in the hood hinges.

Same for both Mazda 3 2010 we've had for 6 years 120k and 150k km. Nothing apparent for a 6 years old car that never been rust proofed and not taken care of by the drivers.

We also had a 2011 mazda2. The car has been dead reliable, and rust free for the 6 years we've had it. This one we only got rid of because something hit the AC condenser and wasn't worth fixing considering it wasn't being driven enough.

None of them had been rust proofed.

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[suprf1y]

Be patient

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...ust-risk-45587

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...-rust-problem/

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by suprf1y

Be patient



https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...ust-risk-45587



https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...-rust-problem/

You obviously don't care about my experience with Mazda cars since 2010. Lol

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[myfirstyota]

Originally Posted by IllusionX

You obviously don't care about my experience with Mazda cars since 2010. Lol

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Hey, that's awesome. I don't want to hear that anyone's car is rusting out on them. I'm just speaking from experience. Here in the golden horse shoe, the municipalities are salt crazy. Many townships outsice the cities will use a salt and sand mix on their roads. I can say from experience (driving plows for these municipalities) Toronto, York region, peel region and Durham region and most likely the greater Hamilton region use solely salt and salt brine... in mass quantities. Winter roads in York region are white.. and not from snow. They have a zero tolerance policy for snow and ice.

Possibility your Mazdas aren't seeing the concentrations of salt that say tmontague, wee yari, and myself See?

Just saying there's a ton of rusty Mazda here in the greater Toronto area.

Also some food for thought.... my car has had bad scratches for years. Metal exposed and everything. In 2 years I haven't noticed the corrosion getting much worse, if at all really. I don't rustproof either. Maybe Toyota just uses better Metal? Surely better than the metal on my ram. I never have too bad of a time with stuck bolts on my yaris. Wish I could say that for the dodge.

[myfirstyota]

Most Mazda 3s here in Canada are pretty rusted. However I once worked with a guy who hadn't changed his oil in like 140000km. So maybe they are decently built?

[Leegamer]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

Most Mazda 3s here in Canada are pretty rusted. However I once worked with a guy who hadn't changed his oil in like 140000km. So maybe they are decently built?

WTF?

[suprf1y]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

Most Mazda 3s here in Canada are pretty rusted. However I once worked with a guy who hadn't changed his oil in like 140000km. So maybe they are decently built?

The newer 3's don't rust like the older ones. I think they fixed that, but in my experience modern Mazda's do have a rust problem, but they are otherwise reliable cars.

[DarkShadowFox]

off to bring a trailer with my 25k millage yaris, not even gonna like stick with toyota anymore.

[DarkShadowFox]

Toyota 4 days ago: Were axing the toyota liftback and selling just a rebadged mazda.

debates with mechanic friend on Istagram ends up saying toyota will buy the AWD turbo mazda 2 hatch or something buying the rights to it.

Toyota: HEY GUYES were gonna make the new yaris liftback a mazda and not bring a GR version or a GRMN veison hahahheueheufhehueueu

Me: *explodes*

Hi toyota, can you please hire me or something instead to import something original instead of doing something cruddy

[tmontague]

None of this is really surprising, it has been a long time coming since there have been no yaris updates with the engine or trans. Their sales are not really great, the hottest part about them is their sales in the used market. They manage to fetch a higher dollar than most Corolla's around here.

I wont buy a Mazda built yaris however. If I want a yaris I'll go with a tried and true Toyota built one. I like Mazda and how they seem to strike a good balance between performance and fuel economy . Their engines are reliable and they look ok. The reason I have never bought one is due to what other have stated above. They rust like no other car I've seen. 4 years in and the thing is rotting out of its frame. I've heard it for the last 10 years that "they've fixed the rust issues" yet Mazdas keep rolling around here filled with rust after 5 years.