Toyota Recalls

[sqcomp]

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OMgaw! My car's accelerator is stuck! the VERY first thing I'm doing is slapping it into neutral. Then I'll try to save my engine with some immediate action and physically using my foot to try to unhook the accelerator if at all possible. By this time I should be onto the side of the road and then I'll turn the engine off.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

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OMgaw! My car's accelerator is stuck! the VERY first thing I'm doing is slapping it into neutral. Then I'll try to save my engine with some immediate action and physically using my foot to try to unhook the accelerator if at all possible. By this time I should be onto the side of the road and then I'll turn the engine off.

yet another reason to get the MT instead of AT... Even at highway speeds in a MT you can safely turn ignition off, wait 2 seconds for rpm to die down, then put ignition to accessory which gives you power steering & power brakes.

i'd like to see how many of these deaths occurred on AT vs MT cars.

[Yaris Hilton]

Honda's taking the high road about Toyota's problem, unlike GM:
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=251264

[CTScott]

I think it's a reasonable question. I also think that Toyota is playing it extremely conservative, but for Toyota to cease selling so many cars, there has to be reason to warrant it.

After my wife saw the news story yesterday and asked why Yaris isn't on the list, I did some research on shared part numbers of accelerator assemblies as, all of the vehicles in the recall list have DBW accelerators like the Yaris. Again, I have no data to justify this comparison, or knowledge of if the potential issue is mechanical (i.e. plastic on plastic binding for example) or electrical (i.e. sensor, wiring fault, or software) in nature.

The Yaris's accelerator assembly is unique to it and the Xd.

For the 8 vehicles in the latest list, the ones which are built in the US and Japan have different part numbers for the US vs. the JPP built parts. The Camry, Camry Hybrid, Corolla, Avalon, and Matrix, and Highlander all share the same part number. The Tundra and Sequoia share the same part number. The RAV4's accelerator pedal assembly is unique to it.

So, basically this explains why for the first 5, if you were going to recall one, you'd recall all. I found it interesting to see that it looks like all Toyota/Scion vehicles now have DBW accelerators.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

Originally Posted by CTScott

For the 8 vehicles in the latest list, the ones which are built in the US and Japan have different part numbers for the US vs. the JPP built parts. The Camry, Camry Hybrid, Corolla, Avalon, and Matrix, and Highlander all share the same part number. The Tundra and Sequoia share the same part number. The RAV4's accelerator pedal assembly is unique to it.

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CAMRY HYBRID and HIGHLANDER HYBRID are excluded from this recall......

[CTScott]

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

CAMRY HYBRID and HIGHLANDER HYBRID are excluded from this recall......

Thanks for the clarifications.

[BluYrs]

Actually, I've had my Yaris's accelerator stick to the floor mat a few times. It's only happened when it's really cold and the floor mat (rubber) becomes rigid. When I've floored the pedal, it got stuck, but got loose on its own in about a second. Just engaged the clutch and nothing tragic happened. The worse thing about it were the looks of passers-by wondring why someone was randomly revving his Yaris to the limiter

So just use common sense and you'll be fine.

[Yaris Hilton]

The recall on the accelerator cites problems with moisture and corrosion sticking in a part from a single supplier. I haven't seen the name of the supplier in any of the news reports, but the recalled cars were built in North America. The Yaris comes from Japan. Mine had a window sticker attesting to its 0% US or Canadian content.

[markitect]

The accelerator that is now being blamed is made by CTS Corp, which is North American. So we should be ok.

The thing that confuses me is CTS supplies more then just Toyota, and it doesn't seem like the Toyota unit would be much different(if at all) from the ones sold to other car makers. I wonder if there will be more recalls down the road.

[ozmdd]

Originally Posted by markitect

The accelerator that is now being blamed is made by CTU Corp, which is North American. So we should be ok.

Maybe we should skip the recall and get Jack Bauer on this!!

Maybe this is all a ruse to get "Crashy" - if that really is his name - covered under warranty...hmm CTScott!!??!!

[CTScott]

Originally Posted by markitect

The accelerator that is now being blamed is made by CTS Corp, which is North American. So we should be ok.

The thing that confuses me is CTS supplies more then just Toyota, and it doesn't seem like the Toyota unit would be much different(if at all) from the ones sold to other car makers. I wonder if there will be more recalls down the road.

This was kind of interesting from the AP story. I assume that this was with the FRP made cars. I wonder if CTS supplies to FRP as well.

"Starting in December 2008, similar problems were reported in Europe with the Aygo and Yaris models. Toyota said it lengthened a part and changed the material to fix the problem, starting in August 2009."

[cali yaris]

At least these posts show that it's not all just driver stupidity, we ARE dealing with a real problem with a physical part, not just a floor mat -- so can we just drop that?

[marcus]

most cars affected was not made in japan... it could be all of them.. yaris and fj cruiser so far is still jdm

[MadMax]

Wow, anyone remember what the "unintended acceleration" problems did to Audi back in the late 70s-early 80s? The following is from Wikipedia...

This decline in sales was not helped in the United States by a 60 Minutes report which showed faked footage of an Audi 5000 suffering from a supposed problem of "unintended acceleration" when the brake pedal was pushed, and emotional interviews with six people who had sued Audi after they crashed their cars.

Independent investigators concluded there was no mechanical problem, and driver error, partially due to drivers not paying attention to the closer placement of the accelerator and brake pedals than some American cars.

The difference was partially attributed to European driver's preferences for smoother heel-and-toe driving techniques. This did not become an issue in Europe, possibly due to more widespread experience among European drivers with manual transmissions.

The report immediately crushed Audi sales, and Audi renamed the affected model (The 5000 became the 100/200 in 1989, as it was elsewhere).

Audi had contemplated withdrawing from the American market until sales began to recover in the mid-1990s. The turning point for Audi was the sale of the new A4 in 1996, and with the release of the A4/A6/A8 series, which was developed together with VW and other sister brands (so called "platforms").

I wonder if the same phenomenon is happening with the Toyotas?!?

[supmet]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Wow, anyone remember what the "unintended acceleration" problems did to Audi back in the late 70s-early 80s? The following is from Wikipedia...



I wonder if the same phenomenon is happening with the Toyotas?!?

Ya, the american media is hoping they can achieve this effect by playing the toyota recall 24/7. I guess it makes sense since we all own a piece of the american car companies.

[ozmdd]

Originally Posted by supmet

Ya, the american media is hoping they can achieve this effect by playing the toyota recall 24/7. I guess it makes sense since we all own a piece of the american car companies.

I think the media is just willing to air any sensational story to death, period. I don't see how they would have much agenda on this. After all, Toyota is a HUGE part of the American economy, between all the Toyota factories in the states, the dealerships, etc. It only hurts the US to have such a big player stop generating revenue, even for a short time.

[127.0.0.1]

since the toyota recall news...

I am sure the lady who just 'accelerated' into a laundromat, is a slap-happy lawsuit wannabe who did it intentionally just to gain attention in her sad boring life....you'll see

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1

since the toyota recall news...

I am sure the lady who just 'accelerated' into a laundromat, is a slap-happy lawsuit wannabe who did it intentionally just to gain attention in her sad boring life....you'll see

sounds like the women here who drove over a parking barrier and rammed into a wall claiming the pedal was stuck.....