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04-12-2010, 10:59 AM | #37 |
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04-12-2010, 01:25 PM | #38 |
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04-12-2010, 02:19 PM | #39 |
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hey, that's a really good reason to get an auto! I thought of that, too, but too late
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04-12-2010, 03:17 PM | #40 |
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My first two cars had manual transmissions - a 73 Celica and an 87 Chevy Sprint. It seems to me that each car's manual transmission is a learning curve of its own. After a while, you hardly have to think about it, but it can be rough until you get a feel for that model.
I've driven an automatic since 95, a 94 Lebaron convertible, a 91 Civic, and now the 08 Yaris. I suppose I could have re-learned the stick shift, but I've gotten out of the habit. I do think quite a bit while driving, just not about what gear to be in. |
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That said, I love the 5 speed manual in my Chevy Sprint for the 54 mpg it gets me on the highway. I love the automatic in my 2008 Yaris because it's just so damned convenient. Similarly, I love the fact that I've removed the air conditioning components (except for the evaporator coil) from the Sprint (replacing it with 52% heat rejection window tint) because it gets me probably an extra 0.5 - 1.0 MPG on the highway. (There are aerodynamic benefits beyond the 4% weight savings.) And I love the A/C on the Yaris because it keeps me cool when I really want to be cool. Most everything in life involves trade-offs. If it didn't, we wouldn't need brains any more evolved than the nervous systems of jellyfish. Earlier today, I picked up my cat from the vet where she gets boarded while I'm away. I took the Sprint, which has vinyl seats. As I contended with her stubborn insistence upon riding on my lap as we drove home, I wished that the Sprint had an automatic. I could have taken the Yaris. But then she'd have jumped in the back and clawed the back seat to shreds before I could get home. Such is life. -Steve |
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04-12-2010, 04:04 PM | #42 | |
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04-12-2010, 05:54 PM | #43 | |
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04-12-2010, 05:55 PM | #44 |
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That's all the same, anyway.
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04-12-2010, 07:40 PM | #45 |
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you need to put foot on brake to move lever from, or to, PARK
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04-12-2010, 07:58 PM | #46 |
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Nope, just from. And I think the best practice is to go N, e-brake up, foot off brake, shift to P. This lets the e-brake take all the pressure, instead of the parking pin. But what does that have to do with anything?
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04-12-2010, 09:25 PM | #47 | |
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Emboldened by this, I tried shifting into 1 at an excessive speed for it. It won't do it. Nothing happens. But if I then switch to 2... it takes several seconds for it to decide to kick back into 2nd gear. -Steve |
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04-12-2010, 10:27 PM | #48 |
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I learned on an automatic, my parents drove big GM cars(Buick, Cadillac), all auto of course. My first car(in 1985) was a 1977 Ford Thunderbird V8, also automatic. I learned to drives standard that same year when my brother and his wife were moving across country and stopped for a visit. They brought her 1971 VW Beetle 4spd. and my brother gave me a driving lesson in it and said I did well the first time.
Most people I knew had automatics, so many didn't learn to drive standard. When I've been car shopping, most new cars on the lots in my area are automatic. I got the 5spd Yaris because it was much cheaper, the dealers here had the automatic Yaris vehicles all fully loaded, and I didn't want to spend that much. I like the better fuel economy, but I have to drive in bumper to bumper stop an go traffic to and from work, and all that shifting can get tiring at times, but still I love my Yaris. There's nothing wrong with never having driven automatic, it's just a little unusual. |
04-12-2010, 11:37 PM | #49 |
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wow I am looking back on this thread, sorry my innocent joke got this whole mess started...
it was just a joke, a humorous comment based on the perceived stereotype that the general american driving public had all but forgotten how to drive manual cars (you have heard of th car thief who got caught because he could not get the manual car that he had broken into, into gear?) After the years of "freedom fries" and "surrender monkeys" and whatnot (I am French, BTW), I think I am allowed a little gentle rib poking in return? Anyway, no big deal, back to your regular programming
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Plus, if I recall correctly, this guy had recently moved to the US from Europe
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But if he is indeed European, then yeah, that explains it. |
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@ Etimago:
Oh boy, I had completely forgotten about the surrender monkeys ... probably too busy choking on the freedom fries Hopefully, that's all behind us now (knocking on wood) By the way did you see post #26 ? Quote:
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