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Old 07-15-2022, 03:49 PM   #1
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new tire and TPMS sensors

Today, I had new all weather tires installed @ $107 each.
About $475 alone for new TPMS sensors that I also needed for my '09 Yaris that only has about 22,000 miles on it and still rides and functions like new.

Grand total with all fees and taxes about $890.
This was after I that I refused that they replace multiple items the I did not need or ask them to check .

I actually caught them in a lie when the said that I needed two new front struts/shocks When I asked them how they determined that they were bad as I was next to my car on the lift, they had no answer for this.

Price gouging, bill padding, and blatantly lying to customers is now everywhere.

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Old 07-16-2022, 12:38 AM   #2
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it always has been it always will be, this isnt anything new
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Old 07-16-2022, 08:54 AM   #3
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Yeah but now it is much more blatant and has become a standard business model.

This was at the local Mavis Tires
This good news is they specialize it replacing the TPMS sensors and I like the tires I got...."Mavis AW HT".
I really like them so far..
They are quiet, smooth riding with great handling

BTW, I do need new front brakes and I am searching for a good, local price.
I might have to go back to Mavis for them as car repair options are now getting scarce.
The days of a local serviced station mechanic are long gone for the most part.
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Old 07-16-2022, 10:22 AM   #4
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A DIYer can get this kit and replace their own sensors. Use a Harbor Freight tire changer to dismount/mount the tires. https://www.amazon.com/Autel-Program.../dp/B0788GG1PZ
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Old 07-16-2022, 10:38 AM   #5
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Yeah, if I had a garage ... a place to work on my car..etc.
However, I presently live in an apartment complex

There was a rime when i rebuilt my own brakes and replaced ball joints, etc.
When I was much younger, back in the 1960s, I even rebuilt a Chevy 283 engine.

Anyway that low pressure icon on my dash due to TPMS sensors with dead batteries is gone..... and that started to really annoy me .

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Old 07-16-2022, 02:57 PM   #6
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you can do the brakes in 30 mins in the parkinglot of any autoparts store
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Old 07-16-2022, 04:15 PM   #7
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Keep in mind that what may be more or less acceptable in one place, may be frowned upon in other places.
Also there is a real safety issue to do something like this without a proper jack and stands to set the car on.
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Old 07-17-2022, 02:19 PM   #8
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Keep in mind that what may be more or less acceptable in one place, may be frowned upon in other places.
Also there is a real safety issue to do something like this without a proper jack and stands to set the car on.
dont get me wrong..i agree with that statement, however...theres plenty of places you can get away with it...heck if your worried about safty jack the car up with the OE jack and place a good size block of wood under the car and let the jack down...

honestly ive pulled parts off cars in wreckers that was much more sketchy than doing brakes in some random parkinglot....worst ever was doing a seized front wheel bearing on my 71 caddy in a safeway parkinglot..just cause i didnt want to foot the bill to tow it home
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Old 07-17-2022, 03:39 PM   #9
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Yeah when i was much younger I used to do things that were not really safe when making car repairs.
However, I am now much older and hopefully a bit more wiser.

When someone is young, they think that they are somewhat invincible and take chances with their lives

Fact is, every year people are seriously injured and even killed by jacking up a car unsafely.. ...in one manner or another. :)

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Old 07-17-2022, 09:14 PM   #10
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I have put some miles on these tires and my first reaction was accurate.
They are indeed great on a Yaris

I was never a believer that any given tire needs a brake in period to be acceptable
IMO, a good tire should be great from square one like theses are.
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Old 07-18-2022, 04:00 PM   #11
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i worked tires for a time...and no 2 tires are the same..heck different batch codes of the same tire can change how the tire is WILDLY

25 miles of AGRESSIVE driving or 150 miles of normal driveing is useualy what it takes to "scuff" off the release compound, storage waxes etc, and then you have to scrub off the top .100mm or more before you are actualy on the "real" tire...some wakeup really fast some can take a 200+ miles
typicaly the softer "rainy type" all season tires wakeup fairly quick while "performance" tires can take a long time....the only tires ive ever found to not need to be broken in...were offroad mud tires, they tend to be VERY soft compound and scuff in within 10 miles our less....blizzaks and studless snow tires are in that same boat ...however "studded" snow tires suffer the same need of a break in as alot of all seasons

i actualy tend to treat new tires like motorcycle tires....wipe em down with acetone to get the wax and release off then promptly take en for a 25-50 mile drive..after that they are useualy good to go
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Old 07-18-2022, 06:41 PM   #12
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Like I said ...
"I was never a believer that any given tire needs a brake in period to be acceptable.
The key word here is "acceptable"

This is not to say that it can not be even better with some use.

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Old 07-20-2022, 10:55 AM   #13
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I don't know if I would attempt to replace my own tires and TPMS. Seems too much of a hassle, and I have fully replaced all of my struts, shocks, and springs.

The kicker with the Yaris is that you need a tool (somewhat pricey) to copy the original TPMS sensors' "ID" to the new sensors. This makes ECU think that the new sensors are the same as the old ones.

Otherwise, you'll have to program the ECU to recognize the new sensors with a Toyota programming tool (very expensive).
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Old 07-21-2022, 07:18 PM   #14
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Yeah... that is why I had Mavis tires do it as they specialize in replacing the TPMS sensors

Mavis does much more than just sell tires.

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Old 08-06-2022, 11:15 AM   #15
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Yesterday 7/06, I found a great privately owned auto repair shop almost within walking distance from where I live.... and you deal with the honest owner.

They replaced the front brake pads on my '09 Yaris that only has about 33,000 mile on it... mainly city / rural driving. The disks are fine.

This is the only thing I replace so far... except for routine maintenance items.

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