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otterhere

12-09-2008, 11:09 AM

So now that we've all bought them, what is our general level of satisfaction?

I have to admit that I'm pretty disappointed in mine in general at the moment. Not just the poor mileage (compared to my Swift) and loud engine, but myriad little details, like the way the seat belt keeps getting caught on the seat lever and the fact that the hatch is so impractical to use and there are a million ugly "holders" I don't seem to know what to do with. Yeah, I did a little comparison shopping first and test-drove it, but basically I was all over the fact that it was a Toyota and the smallest/cheapest model they offered and that was all, she wrote... I was in it... Now I find myself sneaking a look at Huyundais and other less expensive cars and even old Ford Focuses and wondering if I couldn't have saved myself thousands of dollars and been just as happy with the end result. I even kind of wish I'd just kept my old car going instead. My worst fear is that, in the next year or two, they'll come out with something I like better -- maybe even electric models that are feasible.

Is everyone else out there perfectly happy with the much-lauded, long-awaited Yaris?

:brokenheart:

PreciousPups4U

12-09-2008, 11:16 AM

I am extremely happy with mine.

I would also like to get 40 mpg, but my driving patterns and routes just really don't make that likely. I am tempted by the 5 door hatch and had it been available in 2008 I would have gotten it, but it's not worth it to me to trade.

If you really hate it I am sure any dealer would be happy to accept it as a trade in.

SIPNGAS

12-09-2008, 11:18 AM

Are you like this with everything you purchase? Just asking because it seems like nothing is going right for you with this car.

For me, it's perfect and I love it. I'm like that, though, with a lot of things. It's not in my nature to second-guess or doubt my decisions. Maybe it's more about that and less about the car?

I still find myself walking out to the parking lot from, say the grocery store..I'll look up and see my car and think.."what a cute car that is!"....and then it's..wait...that's MY car..lol

Sure it has a few quirks, but they all do. The good and fun features of the car definitely outweight those minor things.

Chupacabra

12-09-2008, 11:25 AM

only 600 miles on mine but it does exactly what I bought it for....get me from A to B efficiently.

otterhere

12-09-2008, 11:30 AM

Haha, sipngas! I admit I am... How many times have friends told me, "Never look back!" But I guess I'm just honest with myself and not prone to self-delusion... Sure, I've spent $13k and gotten rid of a car I absolutely loved (which was getting to where it needed replacing, it's true) and am now stuck with my decision, but that's not enough to make me say I love it when I don't. There have been steps I've taken and purchases I've made with NO second-guessing, ever, as I DO love them, but it's not the case here.

Just disappointing I guess that there are "imperfections" (esp. the interior design; wha-a-a-a-?) with a Toyota, as I was always dead sold on those. As with everything, it seems "quality" has gone downhill.

lita_g

12-09-2008, 11:54 AM

I know how you feel, I felt like that with my previous car, it was a 2003 jetta TDI, I didn't get the mpg that everybody raved about and the interior had many things I hated (no decent cup holders), and well, it was a bad experience from beginning to end. That's why I only had it for 2 years, which was at least 1 year too long, and even though we spent a TON of money fixing it, it was not worth the heartache. That's why afterwards I was really careful and picky, I test drove at least 5 other cars from other manufacturers and in the end I just loved how the yaris handled comparing to the others.

Yes, it has minor things that could be improved (better seats, heated mirrors, tach), but I still love it, just like sipngas, almost every time I look at my car I think to myself how cute it is (yes, I think it's *cute*).

tuckevalastin

12-09-2008, 12:05 PM

I guess I'd say I'm OK with mine. Not necessarily completely happy and not necessarily completely unhappy. For me I'll just keep using it for another couple years until I'm ready for something I like better but until then the car guy in me can't help but mod it while I have it.... If I had, let's say $20k in my pocket to buy a car at this point the Yaris would be gone though.

voodoo22

12-09-2008, 12:19 PM

The Yaris is doing exactly what we bought it for. Providing cheap transportation with little fear of future cost of ownership being too high. I've adapted my driving style to consistently get great mileage compared to other vehicles out there and so far the only thing showing wear and tear on the car after over 42,000km is the crappy paint.

otterhere

12-09-2008, 12:47 PM

I've adapted my driving style to consistently get great mileage compared to other vehicles out there and so far the only thing showing wear and tear on the car after over 42,000km is the crappy paint.

"Crappy paint"; great; something ELSE to look forward to!!! My Swift is just looking better and better... :mad:

KCALB SIRAY

12-09-2008, 12:50 PM

"Crappy paint"; great; something ELSE to look forward to!!! My Swift is just looking better and better... :mad:

What was the outcome with the MPG's, did you get it checked out?

tuckevalastin

12-09-2008, 01:17 PM

"Crappy paint"; great; something ELSE to look forward to!!! My Swift is just looking better and better... :mad:

the crappy paint is one of the most common complaints

Rain

12-09-2008, 01:22 PM

I still find myself walking out to the parking lot from, say the grocery store..I'll look up and see my car and think.."what a cute car that is!"....and then it's..wait...that's MY car..lol

I do the same thing :laugh:
I'm pretty satisfied with my car...
Although I kinda wished that I could transport my bike in it but oh well
At least I am not spending a fortune in filling it up

BailOut

12-09-2008, 01:36 PM

I have sampled many vehicles and vehicle types throughout my life and owned a few of them, and I can honestly say that - even after 1.75 years of ownership and 34k miles - it is my favorite of all of them.

It simply works for everything I need it to do. It gives me the best mileage of my life, never dipping below 42 MPG even in the dead of Winter with a full load and spikes spiders on thanks to both its setup and my own driving style and skills (hypermiling). Adding a hitch with a bike rack and sometimes a snow sports adapter has greatly enhanced its functionality while introducing minimal cost. It hauls carpoolers and all our mountain bikes or snowboards/skis, it hauls a pair of dogs (one large, one medium), it hauls hundreds of pounds of computer equipment or landscaping materials, etc. It contains wonderful technologies such as electric steering and DFCO that it inherited from its larger and older siblings. It has lots of compartments and cup holders and an auxiliary jack for MP3 players.

Yes, the paint job is cheap, but so is my car payment. The only regret I have is that it didn't come with a split rear seat. I curse that fact at least twice a month.

33OH

12-09-2008, 03:01 PM

Now I find myself sneaking a look at Huyundais and other less expensive cars and even old Ford Focuses:

Coming from someone who also owns a 2007 Hyundai Accent GS and a former owner of a 2000 Ford Focus SE, the Yaris is 10 times better than both of them.

While it's not the perfect car, the Yaris was extremely cheap, gets awesome gas mileage (I have no clue how yours is so low, I drive in the Appalachian mountains every day to and from work, doing 80+ on the highway, and I have never gotten below 32 mpg. If i baby it, i can get mid to upper 40's.), and just overall is a great car for the price.

I have many regrets on the Hyundai. The main one being that it cost more than the Yaris to begin with and gets usually around 25-30 miles per gallon going about 70 on the highway. 80+ it gets even lower. :frown:

IllusionX

12-09-2008, 03:16 PM

pretty satisfied with mine... except for the horror i'm having with my sound system...

outterhere: what kind of swift did you have? i had a 93 swift sedan with power windows, power side mirrors and power door locks.. with a 1.6L G16A engine.... I orginally wanted the new "Daweoo" suzuki swift that came out in 2004.. but it wasn't a very good drive... the feeling of the car was just not right.

But then, i have a sedan... it has less than 1/2 of the storage than the hatchback.... aside from the little details you can name from the yaris... i sure could tell you long on my 93 swift.

ChinoCharles

12-09-2008, 03:20 PM

My only regret is I can't afford 2 car payments, and thus can't put the Yaris in a time capsule so I can enjoy it for the rest of my life. I mean, it was my first new car. Sentimental value.

TinyGiant

12-09-2008, 03:21 PM

love it.

i was in near luxury before with my jeep grand cherokee limited v8... but the gas sucked.. so we sold it and bought the yaris.. havent regreted it yet! love the little car.. cant stop playing with it! great gas mileage!

otterhere

12-09-2008, 03:58 PM

outterhere: what kind of swift did you have? i had a 93 swift sedan with power windows, power side mirrors and power door locks.. with a 1.6L G16A engine.... I orginally wanted the new "Daweoo" suzuki swift that came out in 2004.. but it wasn't a very good drive... the feeling of the car was just not right.

Daewoo Suzuki Swift; huh? Mine was a 2000 GS two-door hatch; my little Silver Bullet. From the minute I drove it (actually, from the minute I drove the 1997 Geo Metro that I had before this; it's the same car), I loved it...

This one; eh... The Swift's design was absolutely sublime; nothing extra and nothing superfluous. I almost feel like they added the cup holders and bottle holders (notice that you aren't supposed to cross-utilize the two; little signs tell you not to) and coin holders and MP3 jacks and white plastic next to grey plastic just to make you feel you're getting more for your money; feels "busy."

And then little things like the seat belt getting hung up on the seat lever, and what's with the hatchback? I have to unlock it to use it (not so the Swift)? What's with all the little velcro strips? And everything falls out (oh, yeah; I'm supposed to buy the "net" to hold stuff in)? No excuse for this; bad design.

Those of you who love it, all I can say is: obviously you never owned a Swift.

:bow:

33OH

12-09-2008, 04:07 PM

I just don't understand how you can't love the fact that a 4 passenger car has 7 cup holders.. what's not to love about that? :wink:

CTScott

12-09-2008, 05:00 PM

I just hit 1000 miles and am coming up on two months of owning it. So far I am still mighty happy with it. Thus far, I haven't run into any disappointments with it. I constantly find myself taking things apart on it and marveling at how well it is designed for serviceability.

This weekend I got to drive it in snow for the first time (with its stock Eagle LS tires). I was pleasantly surprised with how well it handled in snow. Sadly, I think it does better than my overpowered and too-wide tired Xterra.

1NZYaris1

12-09-2008, 05:03 PM

lita_g

12-09-2008, 05:05 PM

And then little things like the seat belt getting hung up on the seat lever, and what's with the hatchback? I have to unlock it to use it (not so the Swift)? What's with all the little velcro strips? And everything falls out (oh, yeah; I'm supposed to buy the "net" to hold stuff in)? No excuse for this; bad design.
:bow:

What's wrong with the hatchback? why wouldn't you have to unlock it to use it? I would feel very insecure if it wasn't locked, then anyone could open it if I was at a stop light or if my car was parked. I've also only noticed 2 velcro strips, for that thing that hangs in the back, which I removed and put in a closet at home because I don't see a use for it, are there any more strips?

IllusionX

12-09-2008, 08:02 PM

Daewoo Suzuki Swift; huh? Mine was a 2000 GS two-door hatch; my little Silver Bullet. From the minute I drove it (actually, from the minute I drove the 1997 Geo Metro that I had before this; it's the same car), I loved it...

This one; eh... The Swift's design was absolutely sublime; nothing extra and nothing superfluous. I almost feel like they added the cup holders and bottle holders (notice that you aren't supposed to cross-utilize the two; little signs tell you not to) and coin holders and MP3 jacks and white plastic next to grey plastic just to make you feel you're getting more for your money; feels "busy."

And then little things like the seat belt getting hung up on the seat lever, and what's with the hatchback? I have to unlock it to use it (not so the Swift)? What's with all the little velcro strips? And everything falls out (oh, yeah; I'm supposed to buy the "net" to hold stuff in)? No excuse for this; bad design.

Those of you who love it, all I can say is: obviously you never owned a Swift.

:bow:

I did own a swift... like i said (if you actually read what i said earlier) i used to have a 93 swift sedan before my yaris sedan. And i can tell you every little detail that i hated about MY swift. But that's not the point....
I would say you just bought the wrong car at the wrong moment.... Your 2000 swift was probably more reliable than my 93, but this is very relative to many different things... so let's not talk about it anymore.

What's wrong with the hatchback? why wouldn't you have to unlock it to use it? I would feel very insecure if it wasn't locked, then anyone could open it if I was at a stop light or if my car was parked. I've also only noticed 2 velcro strips, for that thing that hangs in the back, which I removed and put in a closet at home because I don't see a use for it, are there any more strips?

outtahere used to have a 2000 swift.. those hatchbacks has a "trunk release" lever inside.. just like how the yaris sedan is... you pop the trunk like you would "pop" the hood.

I'm surprised that he had no mentioned anything about the center seat belt that hangs from the roof. :bellyroll:

anonymous user

12-09-2008, 08:19 PM

If I could add my 2 cents for a second.
I have looked for a yaris with the specs i wanted for about a year. It was secondhand, i am the second owner. Yes, it gets from pointA to pointB efficiently, and such. Although I complain that the interior looks cheap, mine came w/o side airbags, and the 2009 HB's look awesome, i should'nt complain. This car replaced my 2004 wrx wagon, and that was my first new car purchase. It was one of those gotta have cars, well for me anyway. Things needed to be replaced, and i have about 45k invested in my wrx including purchase.
It sits at home, driven only a few times a month, including auto-x.
That said, the yaris is a great daily commute car, albeit a no-frills economobile.
But with the few mods i have planned, it should stay with me, until i can find a newer LB.
The biggest concern people should consider is maintenance in the next 4-5 years. How will the yaris hold up, AS a cheap entry level car?

P.S.- I too love suzuki swifts. Just not the POS that they sold here in the US.

jinxor

12-09-2008, 08:26 PM

I love my yaris... .Used to drive a Mitsu Magna before, great car nice pick up, but sucked petrol like there's no tomorow.... But, I love my yaris.... its the best car that I have owned (out of 4 cars... Ford Corsair, Daihatsu Charade, Mitsubishi Magna)... Couldn't have made a better choice

anonymous user

12-09-2008, 09:29 PM

Black Yaris

12-09-2008, 09:33 PM

I love my xB now, after I had my Yaris..... but I would go back to a 5 door in a heart beat!

puetato89

12-09-2008, 10:16 PM

if i tolr you i hated my yaris, it would be a lie... yeah its has its ups and downs, but you have to learn to appreciate what you have... there is just something about toyotas that other companies dont bring to the table... many people bash this car but this is the only car(stock yaris) that i know that can keep up with a (my friends)90 honda accord with header and intake and still save gas while enjoying the race

tetzyamis

12-09-2008, 10:16 PM

I agree with otterhere about Yaris VS Swift.
I've looked at 2008 Swift (it's called SX4 now) too before I bought 2009 Yaris 5-Door.
Suzuki, Subaru, and Toyota are all sold at the same dealer here.
They offered such a good deal on fully loaded Swift Sedan (MSRP of about $18k) would be almost the same price as 5-Door Yaris with just power package ($15,835).
Yes, much below invoice price... I think it was left over for a long time.
Swift was a lot more stable, firm feeling, quiet, more power, and much better car for the same amount of money.
It had 17" aloy wheels, the cover between the tires and fender (makes big difference on the noise), so many speakers (7 or 8?), and etc.
But I still went with Yaris instead because of the exterior and the interior design, the resale value, and the Toyota reputation.
So, if otterhere doesn't like the design and doesn't care about the brand then, then Suzuki would've been much better car for him.

puetato89

12-09-2008, 10:19 PM

metalshark

12-09-2008, 10:52 PM

$12,400. 114MPH top speed. 43 MPG city. 39 MPG highway. Great value easily up-graded in the trouble spots. I've always bought Corrollas in the past so I didn't pick up on the seats short commings on long trips right away. I usually only commute in it but I am going to install racing seats for the occasional gas sipping road trip. Its my 5th new Toyota so I knew what I was getting into.

MadMax

12-09-2008, 11:06 PM

otterhere, you've done nothing but badmouth the Yaris since joining here. If you don't like it so much, why don't you go trade it in for your beloved Swift?

I like my Yaris. Even with the larger and wider tires I still manage to pull 35 MPG even when regularly driving at 70-80 MPH. It handles nicely and I actually like having the auto. The MP3 jack is one of the coolest things about the car and I am real happy with the foglights I got from kargoboy. I get lots of compliments and it is not uncommon for me to come out of a store and find someone looking at it.

I think the Honda Fits are ugly and you see them all over the place. Same with Civics, the new Beetles and Minis (those last two are chick cars anyway). My bud's Kia Rio just ate its engine, and it's not that old. I see Ford Focii all over the place and they look like they are falling apart.

The Yaris is unique and much like the cars I drive in Europe all the time, so yes, I am very happy with it!

Gideon

12-09-2008, 11:39 PM

Got a little over 5,600 on it right now (gotta take her in for a fluid change soon!) and I love it. I could've spent more for something else, and there's times where I look at other cars and think "Only $2,000 more and I could've gotten that...", but then someone asks me what kind of car it is and what mileage it gets (I get around 34 in town, FLOORING it everywhere, because I'm used to faster cars, heh.) and I remember how much I love it!

JBIZZ

12-10-2008, 12:33 AM

I love my Yaris, however, I recently test drove a Mini Cooper S, and was surprised that it had so much more leg room than the Yaris. The Mini S is also ridiculously fast, and has a six speed. Unfortunately it doesn't look as good as the Yaris. If anyone is thinking about spending money on making their Yaris faster, I would highly recommend they test drive the Mini S 1st.

gid

12-10-2008, 01:13 AM

no worse than any other TOYOTAs we've had in the past . So , its a :thumbsup: for both the '08 sedan and liftback .

tristan

12-10-2008, 02:51 AM

No complaints from me, I love this car =) except how difficult it is to keep the damn door panels scuff-free lol

I still find myself walking out to the parking lot from, say the grocery store..I'll look up and see my car and think.."what a cute car that is!"....and then it's..wait...that's MY car..lol

Haha, I've been doing that since I got mine!

Forrest

12-10-2008, 07:41 AM

We are very satisfied with the Yaris. We wanted an inexpensive car that got great gas mileage. There is plenty of leg room in the front and folding down the back seat give lots of extra space. The car handles well and is just what we wanted.

otterhere

12-10-2008, 10:16 AM

I'm surprised that he had no mentioned anything about the center seat belt that hangs from the roof. :bellyroll:

First, I'm a girl... And second, yes, I LOATHE that seat belt hanging from the roof!!! As for all the cupholders, interior room, etc., I'm a total minimalist who strives for the most efficient use of the smallest space possible, whether that's in my car, office, or home, so "roomy" is not a good thing for me...

I virtually never carry more than one passenger and would be driving a Smart today if it weren't for the fact that I currently do a lot of interstate driving...

Hence, the tiny, close-to-the-road Swift suited me perfectly and just seemed so much more "user-friendly," somehow. I agree it will be interesting to see how the Yaris holds up over the long haul. I can't see it lasting 10+ years??? But I'll keep an open mind...

Sorry to sound so negative; obviously there are things I like about the car (I agree it's cute as can be), or I wouldn't have chosen it over all the others available... I guess I just wish they hadn't discontinued and then altered the Swift (SRX is way too big and expensive now), but que sera, sera. So of all the subcompacts available (and I just did another cars.com search), Yaris still rules the "cheap, small car"...

06silveryaris

12-10-2008, 11:06 AM

Ottohere, why did you not buy a car you liked or maybe considered a Suzuki Aerio. I did I like the hatch version and they are quite popular here where I live. I bought my Yaris used and I was on a budget but that doesn't mean I will buy something I am not absolutely sure of.

By the way I love it, its my first toyota I have always had mitsubishi or Honda. It is very reliable and gets me great gas mileage. I like cupholders and compartments where I can put stuff in. Plus I can chirp the tires in second gear. haha

KCALB SIRAY

12-10-2008, 11:08 AM

First, I'm a girl... And second, yes, I LOATHE that seat belt hanging from the roof!!! As for all the cupholders, interior room, etc., I'm a total minimalist who strives for the most efficient use of the smallest space possible, whether that's in my car, office, or home, so "roomy" is not a good thing for me...

I virtually never carry more than one passenger and would be driving a Smart today if it weren't for the fact that I currently do a lot of interstate driving...

Hence, the tiny, close-to-the-road Swift suited me perfectly and just seemed so much more "user-friendly," somehow. I agree it will be interesting to see how the Yaris holds up over the long haul. I can't see it lasting 10+ years??? But I'll keep an open mind...

Sorry to sound so negative; obviously there are things I like about the car (I agree it's cute as can be), or I wouldn't have chosen it over all the others available... I guess I just wish they hadn't discontinued and then altered the Swift (SRX is way too big and expensive now), but que sera, sera. So of all the subcompacts available (and I just did another cars.com search), Yaris still rules the "cheap, small car"...

But did you solve the MPG issue as I stated before?

otterhere

12-10-2008, 11:29 AM

But did you solve the MPG issue as I stated before?

I haven't taken it in (can't spare the car right now), but sounds like the mpg is pretty typical, based on responses received; sounds to me like 40 is very atypical and the result of "extreme" driving (extremely careful), which I'm not currently practicing. Also willing to give it some time (haven't hit 200 yet) to see if it improves before starting the whole "taking it to the dealer" thing...

otterhere

12-10-2008, 12:24 PM

I've also only noticed 2 velcro strips, for that thing that hangs in the back, which I removed and put in a closet at home because I don't see a use for it, are there any more strips?

What do you mean you removed it; where are those strips supposed to attach, and what's their purpose??? I can fit so little back there, really, that I'm tempted to just fold down the back seat (don't use) and make it all storage, accessible from the front doors. If you saw a photo of the Swift interior, you'd see just how unnecessarily COMPLICATED the design of the Yaris interior is in comparison. The exterior, no complaints, though. Cute...

Although that antenna is going to make it hard to throw a kayak on top...

:frown:

IllusionX

12-10-2008, 12:26 PM

I agree with otterhere about Yaris VS Swift.
I've looked at 2008 Swift (it's called SX4 now) too before I bought 2009 Yaris 5-Door.
Suzuki, Subaru, and Toyota are all sold at the same dealer here.

Actually, the SX4 is not exactly the same as the Swift found in other countries.. where it remained the same as before. The SX4 has just crazy gas consumption... It wouldn't even be in my list of choices...

First, I'm a girl...

Sorry.. i didn't know :wub:

otterhere

12-10-2008, 12:38 PM

"Actually, the SX4 is not exactly the same as the Swift found in other countries.. where it remained the same as before. The SX4 has just crazy gas consumption... It wouldn't even be in my list of choices..."

So the Swift as it was found here until 2001 is still available in Europe? Yet another reason to move to Europe, LOL... I agree; the SRX is undesirable...

:thumbdown:

lita_g

12-10-2008, 12:49 PM

What do you mean you removed it; where are those strips supposed to attach, and what's their purpose??? I can fit so little back there, really, that I'm tempted to just fold down the back seat (don't use) and make it all storage, accessible from the front doors. If you saw a photo of the Swift interior, you'd see just how unnecessarily COMPLICATED the design of the Yaris interior is in comparison. The exterior, no complaints, though. Cute...

Although that antenna is going to make it hard to throw a kayak on top...

:frown:

Inside the hatch there's supposed to be a sort of hanging cover that has some fabric that attaches to those velcro strips, don't you have that? I think it's what toyota calls the "Liftback storage cover", I got tired of removing it every time I wanted to put down the seats and found no use for it, so I put it away for the time I decide to sell/trade in the yaris.

I looked at several pictures of the swift and it didn't seem to have that much more room in the back, but I could be mistaken, anyway, if you don't use the backseats then put them down, that's what I've done all week, although I usually prefer having them up, I rarely carry anything that wouldn't fit in the hatch, unless I take the dog out.

I don't think the yaris is a bad car, it just doesn't seem to be the right car for you, it happens, but if you really can't get used to it, I would advise you to get rid of it, it will save you a lot of heartache and stress.

andries

12-10-2008, 12:55 PM

The Yaris drives so good that I am never will sell him, or over a number of years I buy the same again.
That is also because the very nice mods I have.

MadMax

12-10-2008, 01:19 PM

landrym28

12-10-2008, 02:04 PM

I'm pretty happy with mine. It gets me where I want to go at a good fuel economy.

Chupacabra

12-10-2008, 02:21 PM

songa

12-10-2008, 03:38 PM

i love my yaris so far...its actually more than i expected. initially, i wasnt too excited and just wanted a cheap reliable car with good gas mileage. i didnt care too much about how it looked, how much power it had, etc. i just wanted a reliable car that would get me from a to b at the lowest price. so price was my top priority, and i easily picked the yaris after not even doing much research. simply because i expect the yaris to be reliable seeing that toyota also make sthe corolla and camry, and it has the best gas mileage in its class...its pretty rediculus in my opinion actually. so i went to the dealership and found a cheap, stock yaris sedan.

the next day after purchase, i found myself in love with my car already. and after the first gas tank, i got 40MPG, a huge improvement from my lats car which got 26MPG. upon looking back at my purchase, i feel very relieved because i pretty much chose the yaris blindly and with little research and expectation, but it turns out it was the best car i could possibly buy given my situation. the yaris continued to exceed my expectations - i am improving my gas mileage (best is 42MPG so far) and i also love the way my black sedan looks. i already did my first mod which was painting the chrome garnish on the trunk black sand pearl to match my exterior. and looking at other YW members rides, I can see that this car can look very very good too when given the right mods.

so overall, this car is perfect for me. its reliable, safe, has GREAT gas mileage, and is one of the cheapest cars you can find. there isnt a whole lot of other cars you can say that about. but on top of that, the yaris also looks great in my opinion which makes it even more desireable to methan any other car in the market than it already is. IMO, after mods, i prefer the look of the yaris sedan over all of the other cars in its range as well. that includes the honda civic, and i think its safe to say i prefer it over the corolla's design as well. the only shortcomings i have with the car really only lie with the interior, but they are insignificant. for one thing, i dont like the placement of the front cupholders in front of the vents, and i also feel like they are a lil too far and out of the way. i also wish there was some storage space or cup holders between the front two seats, right next to the e-brake. i am just too accustomed to that area having some space from other cars and wish the yaris had that. my sedan doesnt have that "2nd dash" either unfortuantely, so im a lil strapped for storage space in my yaris. but really other tahn that i have no complaints. the yaris has exceeded my expectations in more ways than one.

..damn im bored at work! (hence the long post) =)

tetzyamis

12-10-2008, 03:39 PM

otterhere

12-10-2008, 03:57 PM

Oh, I thought Swift was replaced by Aerio and then replaced by SX4.
I just checked Japanese site and yes, there still is Swift and SX4 is a different car.
Learned something new.
And it's true that the fuel economy of SX4 is bad compared to Yaris.

Actually, there's supposedly a Swift "Generation V" or something coming out in 2010, or so it's rumored... Looks about like the Yaris, though. I may test drive it and see if it's worth going to the trouble of a trade (probably not)...

otterhere

12-10-2008, 04:07 PM

i also wish there was some storage space or cup holders between the front two seats, right next to the e-brake. i am just too accustomed to that area having some space from other cars and wish the yaris had that.

Hehehehe. With ALL those cupholders (and bottleholders) at my disposal, I am
actually on a mission to find one of those old fat-bottomed ceramic commuter cups from the 70s (meant to balance atop a dashboard without spilling)... I'll put it in that space between the two front seats where there's no cupholder.

Should'a asked me before they designed the interior!!!

:respekt:

JBIZZ

12-10-2008, 08:27 PM

Yeah....but the Mini S is atleast $10K more.

Only 5K more, from the price I paid for my Yaris (a little under 18K). Mini S is @23K (base) and is designed with forced induction

Chupacabra

12-10-2008, 09:09 PM

Only 5K more, from the price I paid for my Yaris (a little under 18K). Mini S is @23K (base) and is designed with forced induction

I come from the BMW world so no need to let me know about the S or forced induction. You paid just under $18K? That's a lot. If you can find an S for anywhere near $23K, let me know and I'll trade in my Yaris. There is no way that you are going to get an S for that price and if you could, everybody would be driving around in one. By the time you even remotely option out the Mini you are upper 20's...ad in the S and closer to 30.

IllusionX

12-10-2008, 09:13 PM

Only 5K more, from the price I paid for my Yaris (a little under 18K). Mini S is @23K (base) and is designed with forced induction

I would've gotten the turbo mini S instead of my yaris if it had came out in 2006... You can look at it this way... 40MPG AND 175HP 6 speed of FUN ?? Not to mention the sweet and HUGE moonroof ??

Zefoxe

12-10-2008, 09:28 PM

I would be driving a Swift right now rather then my xD if we got the Japanese/Euro Model :
http://www.revmods.com/hks-suzuki-swift-sport/ :cry:

IllusionX

12-10-2008, 11:50 PM

I would be driving a Swift right now rather then my xD if we got the Japanese/Euro Model :
http://www.revmods.com/hks-suzuki-swift-sport/ :cry:

are you sure you don't want a 2009 Mini S instead ?? I'm sure you'll have much more fun driving the turbo that does 5.8L/100km (40MPG) :drool:

YAR1S

12-11-2008, 12:03 AM

yaris is all about the hatch and cute holders. if you dont liek all the compartments and holders then you and yaris are odviously not ment to be..... honestly.

DefStarYaris

12-11-2008, 12:23 AM

I'm very happy with my Yaris. I've had mine for almost a year and I still enjoy driving it, getting great mileage, and having my first new car.

Sure, I know that there are much nicer cars out there but I'm completely satisfied.

floydisrock

12-11-2008, 01:02 AM

Chupacabra

12-11-2008, 12:36 PM

I've owned toy's in the past that ran nearly forever without many break downs.
I refuse to spend $400 on a car payment,just to get me to work and back.
It's much easier to budget my monthly income driving a toyota.
I love my Yaris.
:thumbsup:

Agree. The reason I bought a Yaris is for good, reliable daily transportation. Throw some springs on the car with a lip spoiler and it looks good too!:thumbsup:

junorico24

12-11-2008, 05:10 PM

NO! I aint happy wid it wanna dowse it with petrol and burn it. Nah, just kiddin ya'll lol. I wub it.

YariSpeed

12-15-2008, 10:31 PM

I'm still happy with it...still puts a smile every fill-up...

YAR1S

12-15-2008, 11:19 PM

I still find myself looking over my shoulder at my yaris... am I the only one? lol, I just cant stop looking and smiling.... :)

Fishbulb

12-16-2008, 12:55 AM

I loved the Yaris from the first day I laid eyes on one. I finally have a fish of my own now.. :)

ZING

12-16-2008, 08:31 AM

My yaris does 55MPG, if not more. I will look into it.

33OH

12-16-2008, 09:02 AM

I still find myself looking over my shoulder at my yaris... am I the only one? lol, I just cant stop looking and smiling.... :)

Haha I do that too. I "watch" my car as I walk into work.

Then I look out of the window at it all day. :cool:

otterhere

12-16-2008, 10:09 AM

Haha I do that too. I "watch" my car as I walk into work.

Then I look out of the window at it all day. :cool:

I think it's plenty cute (and I'm so glad I opted for the '08 vs. the '09; not only was it cheaper, but for some reason, that just looks a bit CUTER???), and what I find I do more than anything is see another one on the road, think "What a cute car," then realize, "It's a Yaris!" But it's still too tall for my taste...

:rolleyes:

Phaeton

12-16-2008, 10:10 AM

This is a cheap car, yes it's a Toyota but it's still a cheap econobox. If you expect anything more, maybe you should have bought a more expensive car.
I've put 37,000 miles on mine in 8 months, Never even had a flat tire.
It get's 40-45 mpg every tank as long as I go the speed limit.
It does everything it was designed to do.

eht13

12-16-2008, 11:32 AM

Very happy with mine so far. It was bought to be our second car, and to be more reliable than the car it replaced (and with lower cost of ownership, etc.). But from the start I was surprised at the fit and finish of it, how solid it feels, and how well it drives... while still being reliable and fuel efficient. It's growing on me more every day.

derickveliz2

12-16-2008, 01:27 PM

I'M SUPER HAPPY,

THE ONLY THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT "YARIS" IS THAT...

I CAN'T HAVE A LB AND SEDAN AT THE SAME TIME!

2cts. :thumbup:

CKaelin

12-20-2008, 05:18 PM

derickveliz2

12-22-2008, 12:30 AM

I really love mine too! Last night was the first time I got to really test it out in the snow. I was a bit disapointed at its traction starting in snow from a dead stop. I'm sure better tires would improve this but otherwise it handles great once moving! MY mileage dipped to it's lowest yet this tank. 38.2 mpg. It's been cold. Gotta fiigure out a way to get back up over 40mpg in the cold!

Snow tires !!!

I live in the next town from you, and you know how much snow we got here more than 12 inches, I went out for a ride in 4-5 inches of snow on the roads, spoilers where just touching the snow. I had no problem! Snow tires make a big difference.

I sold the OEM tires they where usless in wet/snow conditions.

http://derickveliz.googlepages.com/YarisSnowStorm.JPG

.:thumbup:

otterhere

12-22-2008, 11:46 AM

My yaris does 55MPG, if not more. I will look into it.

55 mpg? Sure you don't mean mph??? That's just hard to believe... Why would they advertise it at 36 hwy (or whatever was on the window sticker; I forget) if it routinely gets 40 or better (55 is quite a leap; that's as good as the Smart car in Europe)? I managed 34 mpg last fill-up; my best yet...

:mad:

Luna V 2.0

12-22-2008, 12:53 PM

My average is in the low 30s and thats all city. I do no highway driving. I guess with highway driving you could hit 40s.

To hit 50s my guess is a lot of hypermiling techniques. I don't think Toyota wants to advertise it for it's real mileage because it would steal sales away from the Prius. It'd be bad marketing, especially when the Prius is much more expensive.

I'm not complaining, how often do you buy something that performs better than it was advertised? :thumbup:

33OH

12-22-2008, 12:57 PM

Well, plus the EPA is an estimate from an outside source (not Toyota).

They say it's under 'normal conditions', in which they must drive pretty erratic because I have rarely hit under 40 on the highway.

briman

01-01-2009, 12:53 AM

I'm happy with everything about the car except I wish I had bought the power package, may fault, and the milage -car's fault.

I get low 30's on highway and low 20's to mid 20's in town. Yes, I am a very frugal driver in town. Not as much on the highway. I'd still like to see high 30's though.:smile:

yarisnewbie

01-28-2009, 10:28 AM

Hi, I recently got my Yaris and i love it.I've been wanting this car for so long and i fell in love with it from the first time i saw the Infomercial on TV.
It's so cute! So yes, i am very happy with my Yaris!!!:smile:

gid

01-29-2009, 03:28 PM

was until the recent recall . :mad: . Now gotta worry about the help screwing up or damaging something when / if taken in for fix . :rolleyes: .

derickveliz2

01-29-2009, 03:40 PM

was until the recent recall . :mad: . Now gotta worry about the help screwing up or damaging something when / if taken in for fix . :rolleyes: .

What recall?

.

gid

01-29-2009, 04:14 PM

these recalls , www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28891251/ .

derickveliz2

01-30-2009, 10:11 AM

mmm... not a big deal, I put the seatbelts every day but I'm not planing on using them.

Besides that, I'm very HAPPY with my little yaris... :thumbup: specially with my BEFORE and AFTER

Demon

01-30-2009, 10:42 AM

I'm really happy!!

My Yaris is now 8 and a half years old. When my mother brought it (9/2000), I was 10. In this little car I spent lot of time, and I remeber that THAT little car, has never stop running. We use it in several ways: from the city to the highway, from the mountain to the sand of beaches. Our yaris didn't have problems in 8 long years. I remember lots of embarassing situations, whit bigger and more expensive car that doesn't start whit cold, and my yaris did. I remember long travels, in 4 persons whit tons of luggage, always in the yaris. I remember that I've hated this car long time ago, because I was too stupid to understand: I wished that my mother buy an Italian car, for my country "health". But nowadays, I'm so thankful to my mothers yaris, that I decided to keep this car as mine, instead to buy a newer car, or to get something more powerful.

My mission is to give to MY Yaris something that she never had: power, and racing style !!!

Woody_Woodchuck

01-30-2009, 11:26 AM

With about 7,000 miles on mine it has been great. Does exactly what I bought it for, point A to point B inexpensively and reliably. The Echo/Vitz/Yaris has been around the world now for… 10 years or so? I found nothing but praise for it in all my research, from the folks driving it not the major review websites. That’s the reason I bought one! Sounds like Otterhere should move on, sell the Yaris and get the vehicle of her dreams and be happy. Sorry if that is blunt but life is too short to spend time worrying or complaining about something that YOU CAN change.

I have had no issue at all with the seatbelts catching on anything, they work fine. Cheap interior? Well, what were you hoping for flashing disco lights over fake fur and a wet bar? It’s a car. A vehicle. Not a living room. If you spend that much time in it to where you feel you live there, get something more cushy… and much more expensive. I will agree that the plastic scratches very easily and the paint (clear coat), well, it really sucks. But folks who complain about this inexpensive vehicle’s interior obviously bought the wrong vehicle. Sorry, had to get that all out.

For the LB storage issue, I have three cardboard boxes behind the seat. First thing I did was take that stock shelf thing with the netting out. Visit an ABC store (liquor store) and pick a few boxes that fit nice and cut the height to the size you like. I work in a large office and the paper boxes are a perfect fit. Actually one box and two box tops. I can put groceries back there and the bottles do not roll over the bread now.

My mileage is still chasing Voodoo22’s, My lifetime average is 43.5 mpg with a couple 45 mpg tanks. Lowest mileage was 38, that was fully loaded, all highway going 10 over the speed limit and abusing the heck out of the skinny pedal. Terrain has more to do with possible mileage than driver I feel. If I had a flat commute or even slow slopes I know I could easily get 50+ MPG out of it. But, I do work at it. My high MPG numbers do not come easily where I live.

Overall so far the Yaris is great and I love it. Would I have bought something else if money was no object? Sure would have. I’d be posting on the Tesla website not here.

otterhere

01-30-2009, 11:32 AM

Believe it or not, I was GETTING *real* happy with my Yaris (having a hard time getting over my former love, the Suzuki Swift)...

Until I read about the Aygo on here... : (

Now I wish I'd waited till this SMALLER car came out (Yaris is so tall!!!)...

Wonder what I can get for a trade-in in a couple of years???

derickveliz2

01-30-2009, 11:43 AM

Rich k

01-30-2009, 12:34 PM

love it! and get consistant 49.9XX mpg tanks mid spring thru mid fall

otterhere

01-30-2009, 12:35 PM

Where did you read about the Aygo coming to the US, do you have a link, just curious.

In this forum, somewhere; will try to find it. I think in the "buy new or wait till 2010" thread. By converting from metric to US, I've discerned that it's more than a foot shorter (in length), but am having trouble with the mileage claculations; sure 10 mpg isn't right, but it couldn't be 100... COULD IT??? Anyone have more info on Aygo?

otterhere

01-30-2009, 12:36 PM

love it! and get consistant 49.9XX mpg tanks mid spring thru mid fall

What's your tire pressure? And other secrets to your success? 36 mpg here.

N9QGS

02-13-2009, 12:37 AM

I would like to answer the question am I happy with my Yaris. In general yes! this is the first car that has so far gone 82K without requiring a unexpected repair or breakdown. It is amazingly easy to do maintenance on, and I drive much highway and happily report 40+ miles easily on those excursions. So on top of LOW cost of ownership and awesome reliability, I have to say I'm very happy. BUT!

it came with unexpected rattles that I hunted down, the cup holder placement is downright silly place in front of the heater vents. the paint took a beaten on the highway. my prior cars I thought looked better after this many miles. I think there should be more compartments to put stuff, i use the door handle for change. and the compartments off the center console are poor location and I cant utilize them as a quick access compartment. I think the liftback was better designed on compartments and not sure why they didnt put some of these same compartments in the sedan. Oh and I do lay stuff up by the speedometer and one time didn't realize the e-brake was engaged lightly cause the light is low on the dash and was blocked by stuff I layed up and did right with the brake a short distance before realizing the problem. I have squeaking over certain bumps, had since 30K, never had in any other vehicle. As you can see its minor stuff. now I know there will be decent resale value in this vehicle i'm sure, but I feel good this vehicle will serve me well for a good time after its paid off later this year. this will be my first vehicle I will have paid off and will still feel comfortable driving on long trips. This is the best thing I can ask for as it helped me get back on my feet financially, and Im glad I did choose this vehicle over a hybrid. Would I buy another one, probably but woul consider taking a good look at the Honda insight coming out at that time, Do I recommend my car to others? Yes, I do recommend this to young drivers. college students, the cost of ownership and gas will save you and help you get off on the right foot in life!! Ron

Lafiro

02-13-2009, 01:57 AM

I love my car. But I HATE the rattle from a lot of places. And the road noise, ugh!!!

I am thinking of trading this in, or selling it and getting myself a used E55 AMG.

Crandall

02-13-2009, 02:45 AM

The only thing I can say is how disappointed in the RS package I got, other then a couple things it's not worth the money really. If there was some type of engine upgrade with the RS/S model then it would be worth the increase in price.

*sigh* Scion can't come to Canada soon enough.

brainless twit

02-13-2009, 09:08 AM

I don't think I've responded to this thread yet.

I've owned my Yaris sedan for a little over two months and I'm very pleased with it. Every time I fill the tank I remember why I wanted one - it gets at least 10 mpg more than my last car, so even with the tiny fuel tank I get the same number of miles per tank of gas. I'm filling up for $18 while my husband pays $30 and I can drive further. I like the looks of amazement when people see how much room there really is in such a tiny car, especially the trunk.

I know a lot of people complain about road noise, but I find the Yaris to be fairly quiet compared to my previous car (Chevy HHR). I haven't had any problems with rattling so far. I do find the cupholder placement odd, but I just use the settings that don't require the small side vents and the car stays heated/cooled just fine.

I plan to drive this car until the wheels fall off, so I think the Yaris was the perfect investment for me.

otterhere

02-13-2009, 10:49 AM

N9, in Georgetown... Waving from Frankfort; and Twit, too... WHOO HOO, Kentucky!!! We should hold our own "convention" here... Given our lousy mileage, that'd be better than driving to some distant state for another...

:mad:

I am not so thrilled with mine. Never thought I'd even consider trading in but, depending upon what makers come out with in the next few years, I might...

33OH

02-13-2009, 11:05 AM

If you guys have a Kentucky meet, I'd probably drive down. :thumbsup:

SeaYa

02-13-2009, 11:53 AM

After 15,322 miles, the 08 MT Base Sedan Yaris and I are celebrating our 1 year anniversary on Feb 18th.

We've had our arguments: "Why can't you just idle 100 RPM higher?" :mad: "....".

We've had our debates: "I don't think you should roll as much in corners. ", "Well, I think you should buy a rear sway bar." "You know when you're right, you're right."

And we've had our moments of love: "I'm so glad you took it easy on me during the long highway drive.":wink: "I'm so happy you just set a record 47.7 MPG.":wub:

If you find problems with the car, keep posting them on this site. Some people may have fixes, or at least explanations to help.
Since I'm clearly in love with the car (and clearly need a girlfriend) here is my defense to some of the downsides people have posted:

For any complaints about the paint...I have two words for ya....WAX IT.

Ride comfort, noise, etc...I have two more words for ya... TEST DRIVE.

jambo101

02-13-2009, 12:59 PM

Only problem i have with my 08 Yaris is the placement of the cup holders drinks that are too full have a tendancy to splash fluid over the dash and into the little utility drawer just underneath it then ultimately onto your knee.

detroiter

02-13-2009, 01:13 PM

I love my Yaris aside from having to deal daily with Big 3 loving motherfathers. They will pull up and whine about how someone "sold out" and bought a foreign ride. Half of the dimwits around this area have no brains and are so clueless to there "American" cars being partially built in Mexico or Canada with Chinese/Japanese parts that it's sickening. Chevy Aveo? That's a nice DAEWOO your driving there pal!

Havana

02-13-2009, 01:13 PM

I've had mine for about 2 months now and am quite pleased with it. I love all the interior storage. I carry just as much junk as always but now my car looks so clean inside because it's all put away and out of sight. Even when I look at the car, I think it's really small but when I'm inside, I don't think of it as small at all. It feels substantially bigger than my Civic. That small size pays off in the city and parking lots. I have to look hard for any complaints. It's a bit hard to see out when backing up. While I like the center gauge cluster, I really don't care for the design of the gas gauge and every car should have a tach.

otterhere

02-13-2009, 02:37 PM

It's not "really small"; my Suzuki Swift was "really small"; the Smart Twofer is "really small"... I can't get over the feeling that I'm driving a slightly undersized minivan, myself... It's way too tall and just BIG for my tastes.

:thumbdown:

33OH

02-13-2009, 02:45 PM

Personally, I love the size of the Yaris.

If you think the Yaris looks like a minivan, look at a Fit.
http://www.risingsunofnihon.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hondafit.jpg

otterhere

02-13-2009, 03:04 PM

Yes, the Fit looks even MORE like a minivan, which is why I got a Yaris and not a Fit, but that doesn't mean the Yaris doesn't also, to a lesser degree, look like a minivan... Ya gotta admit, that Swift was DISTINCTIVE looking!

33OH

02-13-2009, 03:08 PM

Was it the geo metro looking one?

http://bp3.blogger.com/_B2wdPPOWcX0/RgJc3jS1J0I/AAAAAAAAAWY/pS-FqApUYic/s400/07.01.14+Suzuki_swift+005.jpg

marlondog

02-13-2009, 04:36 PM

I have had my Yaris for a year and a half, and I can say that I am happy with it. It's great on gas, and you can fit alot in it. It's just too bad that it didn't come with a bigger engine, like a 1.8. It's also too bad that it makes all that noise, and the interior was pretty cheap looking(cloth seats with polka dots?), and the rear passenger windows' don't even open a notch.

brainless twit

02-13-2009, 08:19 PM

N9, in Georgetown... Waving from Frankfort; and Twit, too... WHOO HOO, Kentucky!!! We should hold our own "convention" here...

I wouldn't mind heading over your way sometime.... Maybe Louisville or Lex though just to find somewhere good to eat!

tomato

02-19-2009, 02:54 AM

I refuse to spend $400 on a car payment,just to get me to work and back.
:thumbsup:

+1

MadMax

02-19-2009, 08:19 AM

Hell, we own a Honda Odyssey and the Fit looks like a 1:3 scale version of it! That is why I passed on the Fit, despite having owned seven Hondas over my life.

The Yaris looks nothing like a minivan. I think it is a cool looking little car and very reminiscent of the cars I see in Europe. It is almost a Japanese Opel! Sure, it was a bit of a step down from the fully-loaded VW Passat wagon I used to drive, and the 1.5L I4 doesn't come close to the 185HP VR6 I had in the wagon; but overall I am very happy with the Yaris. It is enjoyable to drive and quite versatile. It is also very practical on gas, it is nice to be able to fill up a car with a $20 bill and get change back! It also offsets my 15 MPG Jeep nicely!

You just have to remember that this is a $12-14K car. Keep it in that perspective and you will see that it is a good deal. Toyota quality throughout, good gas mileage and absolutely a fun little car to scoot around in. I self-eliminated much of the competition based on image/looks (Fit, Prius, Rio), and when I saw Sprocket sitting at the dealership, I knew I had found my Yaris!

Cheers! M2

tomato

02-19-2009, 01:48 PM

I haven't yet responded to this thread because I only put in a couple hundred miles on my Yaris since I got it, so it's a little early to pass judgment but here is my first impression:

Negative points:
- acceleration could be better, would make merging on the highway easier.
- tends to "dance" a little bit on the road in high wind / rain situation
- a quick release lever accessible from the driver seat for the trunk would be nice
- not a fan of the console located in the middle of the dashboard, but you actually get used to it pretty quickly
- visibility in the back not as good as it should be, makes parallel parking on the right side of the street a little tricky, even with side mirror
- sitting so high up takes a little getting used to it.

Positive points:
- Great value
- Toyota reliability
- Really cute (possibly the best looking small car out there right now)
- Subcompact
- Manoeuvers great in tight spots
- Good gas mileage
- Manual transmission
- Hatchback (love the design, allows you to transport more stuff in the car than a classic sedan design, I think)

Overall, I'd give the little Yaris a thumbs up. It's a good car and the price is right.

:burnrubber:

PETERPOOP

02-19-2009, 01:52 PM

Not enough aftermarket engine parts and turbo kits! BOO!

otterhere

02-19-2009, 02:30 PM

Twit: come on over! L'ville, esp., has the restaurants goin' on...

MadMax: "Sprocket"; cute!

I realize it's a cheap car, but Swift was a cheap car, yet more "richly" made (I also can't stand the polka-dotted seats, but wasnt' going to mention that)... I DO remind myself that this is just the general trend; you get less for your money in every area of life now.

gaffo

02-20-2009, 10:28 PM

You do have that center seatbelt locked into the roof, don't you? I see a lot of Yarii that don't do that, but it is quite easy to do!

And I don't think 40 MPG is "typical," more like 35 MPG. This is one car where you can't expect much better than the EPA estimates unless you concentrate on efficiency using hyper-milling or other techniques. I downshift my auto into '3' to kick the DFCO in when decelerating, and go easy on the gas most of the time; but I also drive 70-80 MPH and am not as worried about gas mileage as some. And even with the larger(215/45ZR17)/wider/“gripier” tires and my auto I am still getting 35 MPG.

Overall, I am very happy with the car and don’t have any major gripes about anything. I do have a few minor ones (such as the lack of a split-folding rear seat on my car), those are things I can fix given the opportunity. But for the most part, the Yaris does everything I expect of it!

Cheers! M2

Hi! not been here for many months. YES the first thing I did was lock that back seatbelt in its holder. "Outtahere" you should do this - it takes 2 seconds.

Also got rid of that shelf thing in the back the first day I bought my car - 16 months ago. I now have 33k miles on it and no problems so far.

..........

VERY happy with the car: I did have THREE compliants with it BEFORE I bought mine car, solved two of them and live with the one.

1. Springs were WAY to "americanized" - BOATY, car just did not feel planted on the interstate above 75 mph. I put TRD stiff springs and struts on the thing the fist week I bought it. It now handles like my old Truimph TR7 sportscar of old (without the mechanical headache issues). She is now fully planted on the interstates even at 90 mph.

2. It took me nearly a year to find a STANDARD 5 speed with the POWER PACKAGE (power windows are a MUST for me!!!). I had to call all over the country to find that simple combination and I blaime Toyota incompetent marketing and region option bullshit. I had to travel out of state just to get a standard with power windows and split folding rear seats! Deaders in the Gulf State area REFUSED to dealer swap outside of region.

3. No tach on the STANDARD - WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, this fucktiod of Toyota incompetent packaging I just live with. Shift to 2nd at 18 mph, 3rd at 38, 4th at 50, and into 5th at 65.

.............

seats make me sit too high up (like in an SUV instead of low like I like), and no side support - but minor compliant.

stearing is a little mushy - not bad, but I generally dislike power stearing and such a light car don't need it. stearing is not quite "self-centering" enough either - but again a minor compliant. The 3 numbered above were the big three important complaints I had and 2 of them were solved for/by me.

..........

mileage - well I'd love to get that magical 40 - but I hit 37.5 every damn time (35.5 in winter) combined. I do get 40 on interstate, but 35 in city, so I average 37 or 38 mpg.

I traveled to Florida last year and got 42 mpg there, but Oklahoma is hillier and colder so no 42 here ;-/.
.........

She's ALMOST as fun to drive as my old TR7 and a flog the shit out of her (very agressive driver with the whole downshifting fun and jack rabbit starts). I LOVE SHIFTING - and live in fear that they will no longer be offered here in the States shortly. I have no idea WTF I'll do when I can no longer buy an new 5speed, I love not having to use my brakes!!! ;-). I bet my rotors look brand new with that 33k on em.

just my 2-cents.

gaffo

02-20-2009, 10:34 PM

I come from the BMW world so no need to let me know about the S or forced induction. You paid just under $18K? That's a lot. If you can find an S for anywhere near $23K, let me know and I'll trade in my Yaris. There is no way that you are going to get an S for that price and if you could, everybody would be driving around in one. By the time you even remotely option out the Mini you are upper 20's...ad in the S and closer to 30.

I looked into a MINI base model (19k last year - in THEORY) when I had such a hard time finding a 5sp Yaris with Power Package (the whole no options for the standard Yaris got me RABID with HATE toward Toyoya at the time - still does actually when I think about it), and there was NO MINI anywhere under 26,000 bucks. period.

I was not willing to go over 19k (cash) for my car. I saved for 1-1/2 years and simply had no wish to spend 26k for any car.

gaffo

02-20-2009, 10:41 PM

I would've gotten the turbo mini S instead of my yaris if it had came out in 2006... You can look at it this way... 40MPG AND 175HP 6 speed of FUN ?? Not to mention the sweet and HUGE moonroof ??

mini has a 1.6 (not mentioning the Turbo which takes a small mileage toll) instead of a 1.5 and it weights 2600 lbs instead of 2300 lbs.

If the Yaris has a hard time getting 40 mpg, there is no way in hell that the MINI-S will average 40 mpg.

Stock MINIs get 32 average - that turbo is probably more like 31 or so in the REAL WORLD mileage.

- its all about wieght and engine size (a balance of the two also). simple really.

- can't have a HUGE engine in a small car and expect great mileage - nor can you have a heavy car with a dinky engine (the american car make solution to fuel effiency!!) - either combo equals poor mileage.

good mileage = BOTH light body and small engine. there is no other magical solution.

gaffo

02-20-2009, 10:54 PM

In this forum, somewhere; will try to find it. I think in the "buy new or wait till 2010" thread. By converting from metric to US, I've discerned that it's more than a foot shorter (in length), but am having trouble with the mileage claculations; sure 10 mpg isn't right, but it couldn't be 100... COULD IT??? Anyone have more info on Aygo?

Aygo is not comming. there was talk about offer the IQ but with gas so cheap I have my doubts that we will even see it.

I've wanted a micrcoar since the days of the MG midget, but Americans are so safety phobic and fat today no car maker has the balls to offer a truely small are here in the States. ;-(. Yaris was the smallest car I could buy and it is bigger than I like my cars.

Even Ford is pussing out of offering their new KA (what a sweet car too) now, and Fiat 500 if it ever come here will be a boutique offering and cost as much as the mini I'm sure ;-(.

Fiat 500 (both the old one - which I saw here in town!! last week - and the new one) is a sweet looking vehicle.

Forrest

02-21-2009, 09:00 AM

[QUOTE=otterhere

I am not so thrilled with mine. Never thought I'd even consider trading in but, depending upon what makers come out with in the next few years, I might...[/QUOTE]

As you have complained in the other thread about foolish things, why don't you go and get your swift !

id3379

02-23-2009, 05:08 AM

Love My Yaris,

Love My MPG,

Love My Payments.

otterhere

02-23-2009, 11:08 AM

Gaffo, glad you solved all the aggravating problems with the (mostly interior) design of the Yaris, the "too-high" ride, etc., but should you really have to do all this work on a brand new car to make it acceptable? I think not... Just, to take one example, that stupid shelf in the hatchback; did they actually TRY putting bags of groceries back there with the shelf in place before approving that design (which actually interferes)? No...

Sorry to hear your prediction about the Aygo, but I mostly agree.

Morgan

02-23-2009, 11:15 AM

didn't we already have this thread?

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10948&highlight=complaint+thread

:D

otterhere

02-23-2009, 11:50 AM

Oh, dear... Hilarious; is this the best photo of the Suzuki Swift Wikipedia could come up with, LOL? Couldn't they at least find one that was washed and not covered in mud???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Suzukiswift96.jpg

abdallah380

02-24-2009, 08:37 AM

tomato

02-24-2009, 01:12 PM

im very happy with my yaris... very cute car. great gas mileage. stock speakers are great exceot gets really annyoyin when the door rumbles n makes that awful weird noise coz of the bass :( .... yaris is fast n can keep up with almost any car on the higway, but the acceleration is killing me, its terrible... anyone facing with acceleration problem?

Same here. Acceleration is not a strong point on that car.

You can adjust the bass on the factory stereo (don't ask me how, though, but I've seen the sales guy do it at the dealership), but the acceleration is something you might have to get used to :(

eht13

02-24-2009, 01:42 PM

You can adjust the bass on the factory stereo (don't ask me how, though, but I've seen the sales guy do it at the dealership)

On the sedan at least, the knob on the right end of the top of the stereo controls bass, treble, balance (left-right), fade (front-back), and a feature that turns the volume down when the car's speed decreases (the knob on the left end being for power and volume). Just press the knob in once for each setting and cycle through them until you see the one you want to change. Then turn that same knob up or down to adjust, and the equivalent relative number will show on the screen as you do it. To set it there, just wait until the screen returns to normal.

SailDesign

02-24-2009, 02:06 PM

... but should you really have to do all this work on a brand new car to make it acceptable? I think not...

Otterhere, did you actually drive or play with a Yaris before you bought one, or did you just order it online sight unseen? Your attitude says "Spoiled Brat" so frikkin' loud I'm deafened. If the car is "unacceptable" as new, then what does that say about you as a purchaser? It says you did no research, did not look at the car AT ALL, and have a bad habit of blaming everyone else for the fact that you bought something you didn't like.
Toughen up, get over yourself.

Forrest

02-24-2009, 05:04 PM

Otterhere, did you actually drive or play with a Yaris before you bought one, or did you just order it online sight unseen? Your attitude says "Spoiled Brat" so frikkin' loud I'm deafened. If the car is "unacceptable" as new, then what does that say about you as a purchaser? It says you did no research, did not look at the car AT ALL, and have a bad habit of blaming everyone else for the fact that you bought something you didn't like.
Toughen up, get over yourself.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thum bup::thumbup:
Well Said !!!!!!!!!!!

twowheels

02-24-2009, 05:17 PM

On the sedan at least [...] and a feature that turns the volume down when the car's speed decreases

:( Why don't we get that in the HB?

abdallah380

02-25-2009, 06:27 AM

Same here. Acceleration is not a strong point on that car.

You can adjust the bass on the factory stereo (don't ask me how, though, but I've seen the sales guy do it at the dealership), but the acceleration is something you might have to get used to :(

thanks for the reply, lol the acceleration is really a weak point.. but im getting used to it already. i cant complain much, i really love this car. love everything else about it.:smile::rolleyes:

SailDesign

02-25-2009, 09:48 AM

... but the acceleration is killing me, its terrible... anyone facing with acceleration problem?

Small engine + GREAT mileage = Slow off the line.
Fact of life. If you want acceleration, you'll pretty much have to go for something more expensive to run. The way most people drive, though, you'll still beat them off the lights, simply because they don't realise you're racing :biggrin:

abdallah380

02-25-2009, 02:39 PM

Small engine + GREAT mileage = Slow off the line.
Fact of life. If you want acceleration, you'll pretty much have to go for something more expensive to run. The way most people drive, though, you'll still beat them off the lights, simply because they don't realise you're racing :biggrin:

lol ur right... i cant complain about it... i wont deny about trying to beat the ppl when the lights go green, love kickin butt. hehehehehe:tongue:

churp

02-27-2009, 01:46 AM

tomato

03-01-2009, 03:03 AM

Yar Is Word

03-01-2009, 02:02 PM

Had well over 100 cars since 1964, and this is one of the tops!!!!

Sorry about you situation. Perhaps a way out will come to you.
Why so may cars?

churp

03-02-2009, 12:40 AM

Sorry about you situation. Perhaps a way out will come to you.
Why so may cars?

Word came down Friday 32 hours...I can live with that. Just about every factory around here has done this, after they laid off to the bare bones.

Why so many cars???? :iono: Why not? Maybe ask Jay Leno.

Yaris is near the top of the list out of all of them. Or maybe I'm just getting old and want something practical and dependable, that does everything I need.

gaffo

03-02-2009, 06:03 PM

Small engine + GREAT mileage = Slow off the line.
Fact of life. If you want acceleration, you'll pretty much have to go for something more expensive to run. The way most people drive, though, you'll still beat them off the lights, simply because they don't realise you're racing :biggrin:

get a STANDARD - that will solve your acceleration issues.

small engine = small car =/= automatic.

offering an automatic for such small cars is just..........dumb.

and if you just have to have it, then expect your power reserve to be alot less!

gaffo

03-02-2009, 06:06 PM

2 year anniversary for Black Betty tomorrow....59,800+ miles. Had well over 100 cars since 1964, and this is one of the tops!!!! Does everything I need.....5 of us travelled over 1,000 miles in a 3 day weekend, have hauled 1,000 lb payloads, have averaged over 38 mpg (have records to prove it).

Sad thing is either getting hours cut, pay cut, or laid off next week....Black Betty may have to go....:cry:

33k here , also have the hitch like you. its great being able to haul crap around without worrying about finding a damn truck to borrow.

-sorry about the bad economic news, its bad all over. Oklahoma has dodged the bullet...........so far.

I do NOT expect that she will continue to do so ;-/. its getting scary out there ;-(.

tomato

03-02-2009, 08:00 PM

get a STANDARD - that will solve your acceleration issues.

Er.. not quite. Coming from the Honda CRX, I can tell you that the acceleration in the Yaris is not the greatest. :cry:

You get used to it pretty quickly, but it's sometimes a bit of a pain (like when you want to merge on the highway)

I think the SMART is even worse than the Yaris in that regard, though.

tomato

03-02-2009, 08:03 PM

-sorry about the bad economic news, its bad all over. Oklahoma has dodged the bullet...........so far.

I do NOT expect that she will continue to do so ;-/. its getting scary out there ;-(.

It's scary everywhere lately. Hang in there. We'll get through this.

Cutie Pie #2

03-02-2009, 08:28 PM

I'm happier with my Yaris now, it's paid off, well not really just paid off to a line of credit which has better interest rate (1.9% Line of credit vs 8.25% toyota financial) and I will also help my husband with paying it off the line of credit sooner we have other things on it.

Just hang it there everyone, it will be better soon.

SailDesign

03-02-2009, 08:28 PM

You get used to it pretty quickly, but it's sometimes a bit of a pain (like when you want to merge on the highway)

Best way to get over the merge problem is to use the Yaris' ability to corner to its fullest - banch the ramp and match intrinsics BEFORE you get to highway itself. :biggrin:

tomato

03-02-2009, 09:29 PM

I'm happier with my Yaris now, it's paid off, well not really just paid off to a line of credit which has better interest rate (1.9% Line of credit vs 8.25% toyota financial) ..

:clap::clap::clap:

Well done!!! :thumbsup:

otterhere

03-03-2009, 10:40 AM

That's Sail... Always looking on the bright side of the Yaris... Gas tank is always half-full; not half-empty!!! What's that saying? You can't control the wind; you can only set your Sail... :wink:

SailDesign

03-03-2009, 11:21 AM

That's Sail... Always looking on the bright side of the Yaris... Gas tank is always half-full; not half-empty!!! What's that saying? You can't control the wind; you can only set your Sail... :wink:

As opposed to bitching and moaning about everything YOU bought, and now don't like? I prefer my way :smile:

otterhere

03-03-2009, 11:31 AM

As opposed to bitching and moaning about everything YOU bought, and now don't like? I prefer my way :smile:

We definitely balance each other out... I'm honest about the failings of this otherwise great little car, whereas you're over-the-top-besotted with it...

Only there are TWO of you (Forrest) and only one of me, so I have to B&M twice as loud and long...

:laugh:

SIPNGAS

03-03-2009, 11:36 AM

We definitely balance each other out... I'm honest about the failings of this otherwise great little car, whereas you're over-the-top-besotted with it...

Only there are TWO of you (Forrest) and only one of me, so I have to B&M twice as loud and long...

:laugh:

For some reason, I don't think that's a stretch for you. Honestly, I can't imagine living like that...constantly complaining about everything. Is anything/anyone ever good enough? That would drive me and everyone around me UP THE FLIPPING WALL.

otterhere

03-03-2009, 12:19 PM

There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.

Ever heard of "Devil's Advocate"?

KCALB SIRAY

03-03-2009, 12:50 PM

There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.

Ever heard of "Devil's Advocate"?

ever heard of the want ads?

SailDesign

03-03-2009, 02:01 PM

There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.

Otter - the thing you fail to understand is that I bougfht the car because I liked it. I'm sorry, but that is the case - and I STILL like it. Is it perfect? nope! But it's a sh!t-load better than anything else out there for my purposes.
You bought the car because .... Well, I haven't been able to figure that out. Obviously, neither have you. Can I suggest a Honda Fit, and maybe another forum? Please?

SIPNGAS

03-03-2009, 02:07 PM

There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.

Ever heard of "Devil's Advocate"?

Born critic? This is extreme! Just because someone doesn't continuosly whine and b!tch and complain mean they're a Pollyanna.

Do you have a significant other? How about kids? Good luck with either one because from what I can tell, there isn't a thing or anybody that will make you happy and the constant criticism will make one lonely Advocate. Of course, you will always have yourself to listen to...but sooner or later, that will be it. Good luck with that.

otterhere

03-03-2009, 02:19 PM

Born critic? This is extreme! Just because someone doesn't continuosly whine and b!tch and complain mean they're a Pollyanna.

Do you have a significant other? How about kids? Good luck with either one because from what I can tell, there isn't a thing or anybody that will make you happy and the constant criticism will make one lonely Advocate. Of course, you will always have yourself to listen to...but sooner or later, that will be it. Good luck with that.

Thanks for the free psychoanalysis! Does your SO ever get tired of that?

Sail, I bought it because - exactly as you said - it's a boatload better than anything else out there, but that's just a sad commentary on the small-car market in this country today. There have been better small cars in the past and, hopefully (if anyone heeds my suggestions), there will be in the future.

To be honest, the dealership didn't have a hatch, so I test-drove a sedan. Turns out it was "different." Then I switched from wanting an '09 (which I test-drove) to finding and settling for an '08 in the next state over. So, no, I guess technically I didn't test-drive the '08 Yaris before buying it, but assumed it was much the same car. That may account for some of the dissastisfaction (with the seat fabric, at least), and yes, that's my own fault.

But, again (I keep saying this), I think Toyota could do better... And will...

Note: when you are negative about "negatives," that makes you POSITIVE!

:biggrin:

tomato

03-03-2009, 03:08 PM

Yar Is Word

03-05-2009, 01:03 AM

Word came down Friday 32 hours...I can live with that. Just about every factory around here has done this, after they laid off to the bare bones.
Why so many cars???? :iono: Why not? Maybe ask Jay Leno.

Thank you for your response. Hope things will get better.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/jjj/

otterhere

03-05-2009, 10:28 AM

Well, that's the problem right there, I think. You gotta test drive the car you're going to buy OR be ready to be real flexible with what you get.

After a couple of months, you should be used to the shortcomings of the Yaris, no? I don't know, the car is growing on me.

Just surpised a 2008 hatch could be/feel so different from a 2009 sedan; what's up with that? But yes, I confess, I didn't test-drive the ACTUAL car I ended up with... : (

I don't hate it as much as I used to, it's true... After one weekend overnight trip (six hours on the road tota), I actually got a little warm-and-fuzzy twinge for it... But it passed when I tried to put my sunshield back in the car and fit it under the front passenger seat like I did in the Swift; nope, it wasn't going in there... Not without a lot of maneuvering... I was peeved...

First warm, sunny day, I'm going out in the driveway with my owners manual and really getting to know my car; will secure that rear seatbelt and get rid of that stupid hatch shelf that just gets in the way and outfit it with the paperboxes and canvas grocery bags I've read about on this forum and lay the backseat down for my kayak and bike and try to learn to love the Yaris.

Wish me luck...

:headbang:

tomato

03-05-2009, 01:07 PM

Just surpised a 2008 hatch could be/feel so different from a 2009 sedan; what's up with that? But yes, I confess, I didn't test-drive the ACTUAL car I ended up with... : (

You know, I test-drove 2 different Yarii LB, MT, one 2008 and mine, the 2007, and they handled slightly differently, so yeah, I can imagine a Sedan would feel way different at handling, It has to!

First warm, sunny day, I'm going out in the driveway with my owners manual and really getting to know my car; will secure that rear seatbelt and get rid of that stupid hatch shelf that just gets in the way and outfit it with the paperboxes and canvas grocery bags I've read about on this forum and lay the backseat down for my kayak and bike and try to learn to love the Yaris.

Wish me luck...

:headbang:

Good luck, then! :biggrin: You don't have to love it, just get comfortable in it and forget about the polka dots! :wink:

I intend to do the same thing this WE, since it'll be the first sunny day since I drove the car back from the dealership. I think I'm going to go out in the country and see how she likes it, and also do a more thorough visual inspection of the inside, check out all these compartments people are revving about!! :wink:

You'll get used to the car. You know, every time I see a CRX drive up the street, I get pangs of regrets because I truly loved the car and had it for a long time. But it was her time to go, RIP :wink: and I know it, no matter how much I loved the car.

The only thing I am thinking of doing to the Yaris is possibly put in a SSK to make shifting smoother. I'm still reading the threads about that, though, so haven't decided yet if it's worth the money or if I'll just suck it up and learn how to drive the car as is instead. :iono:

:burnrubber:

otterhere

03-05-2009, 01:24 PM

KCALB SIRAY

03-05-2009, 01:31 PM

I've gotta "learn to love it" 'cause I'll take too big a hit otherwise, and I'm too cheap for that... ; / But there are still many days I wish I'd just kept my Suzuki Swift going until manufacturers get wise and come out with more choices in the subcompact category...

Okay; from now on, THINKING POSITIVE! : D

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http://scrapetv.com/The%20Visual/Choose%20your/Jesus/buddy_christ-3.jpg

gaffo

03-07-2009, 08:20 PM

Thanks for the free psychoanalysis! Does your SO ever get tired of that?

Sail, I bought it because - exactly as you said - it's a boatload better than anything else out there, but that's just a sad commentary on the small-car market in this country today. There have been better small cars in the past and, hopefully (if anyone heeds my suggestions), there will be in the future.

To be honest, the dealership didn't have a hatch, so I test-drove a sedan. Turns out it was "different." Then I switched from wanting an '09 (which I test-drove) to finding and settling for an '08 in the next state over. So, no, I guess technically I didn't test-drive the '08 Yaris before buying it, but assumed it was much the same car. That may account for some of the dissastisfaction (with the seat fabric, at least), and yes, that's my own fault.

But, again (I keep saying this), I think Toyota could do better... And will...

Note: when you are negative about "negatives," that makes you POSITIVE!

:biggrin:

I have to agree, the current state of American offerings of small cars is pathetic. No choices, no models.

1st off truely small cars ("A" segment) are not offered at all!, and very few "B" segment cars (MINI (too overpriced), and Yaris).

FIT and VERSA are not "B" cars - they may call themselves such but they are both alot longer in length than the Yaris.

..........

and sadly in conclusion - truely "fun cars" - those with stiff suspensions, tight non-powered stearing, and stick simply no longer exist in this country. People have lost the concept of driving for fun and unlike 20 yr or more ago, there just is no desire from the buying american public for buying a car that is fun to drive.

- that is why there is no modern equivalents to the Bugeye Sprite or MGs or VW Beetles anymore.

Americans used to have a joy for driving - but it was "marketed out" by the bean counters drumming the SUV and the endless "safety mantra" - and the sheople bought into it.

...........

Europeans still have a love for driving, that is why the new Fiat 500 ("A" Segment car), Ford KA ("A" segment car), Toyota IQ ("A segment car), Chatent Speedino (mini-car), and France and Itally offer microcars that are smaller than small! - like the perfor mentioned Speedino, and a whole class of fun cars.

http://www.qdoscars.co.uk/chatenex.htm

http://www.qdoscars.co.uk/m72.htm

http://www.automobiles-ligier.com/

etc..........

just boring cars here in america ;-/. Yaris is just the least boring of the boring in my book. (former Triumph driver - so I should know).

otterhere

03-09-2009, 01:19 PM

"...and sadly in conclusion - truely "fun cars" - those with stiff suspensions, tight non-powered stearing, and stick simply no longer exist in this country."

Sad, but true; they stopped making the Suzuki Swift hatchback in 2001...

:cry:

freeridelectric

03-21-2009, 04:15 PM

55 mpg? Sure you don't mean mph??? That's just hard to believe... Why would they advertise it at 36 hwy (or whatever was on the window sticker; I forget) if it routinely gets 40 or better (55 is quite a leap; that's as good as the Smart car in Europe)? I managed 34 mpg last fill-up; my best yet...

:mad:

Have any of you checked your odometers at a official hwy check point? I checked mine and it was found to be over .3 miles off after 5 miles. When I traveled 5 miles the odometer read over 5.3 miles. This could be because of the electric conversion but I was wondering if anyone else checked their speedo/odometer for accuracy.

was until the recent recall . :mad: . Now gotta worry about the help screwing up or damaging something when / if taken in for fix . :rolleyes: .

Well I guess I don't have to worry about the exhaust part of this recall as it was removed in the conversion. That leaves the seat belt part of this recall.

The only thing I can say is how disappointed in the RS package I got, other then a couple things it's not worth the money really. If there was some type of engine upgrade with the RS/S model then it would be worth the increase in price.

*sigh* Scion can't come to Canada soon enough.

I was thinking about the s version of Yaris, with this review of it I am glad I did not order it.

mini has a 1.6 (not mentioning the Turbo which takes a small mileage toll) instead of a 1.5 and it weights 2600 lbs instead of 2300 lbs.

If the Yaris has a hard time getting 40 mpg, there is no way in hell that the MINI-S will average 40 mpg.

Stock MINIs get 32 average - that turbo is probably more like 31 or so in the REAL WORLD mileage.

- its all about wieght and engine size (a balance of the two also). simple really.

- can't have a HUGE engine in a small car and expect great mileage - nor can you have a heavy car with a dinky engine (the american car make solution to fuel effiency!!) - either combo equals poor mileage.

good mileage = BOTH light body and small engine. there is no other magical solution.

Corvette their is no substitute. Close to 30 mpg on the hwy with cruise on at 55 mph.

Aygo is not comming. there was talk about offer the IQ but with gas so cheap I have my doubts that we will even see it.

I've wanted a micrcoar since the days of the MG midget, but Americans are so safety phobic and fat today no car maker has the balls to offer a truely small are here in the States. ;-(. Yaris was the smallest car I could buy and it is bigger than I like my cars..

Too fat? LOL Ain't it the truth though. I run into people that are scared to drive a car as small as the Yaris. I think they are and were suseptable to SUV advertisement sufficiently brain washed by Detroit.

Gaffo, glad you solved all the aggravating problems with the (mostly interior) design of the Yaris, the "too-high" ride, etc., but should you really have to do all this work on a brand new car to make it acceptable?

Any lower and it would be like you are climbing out of a Corvette. The front end would scrape as you entered driveways unless you took it at a angle. :smile: My Yaris only has 5" clearance now.

im very happy with my yaris... very cute car. great gas mileage. stock speakers are great exceot gets really annyoyin when the door rumbles n makes that awful weird noise coz of the bass :( .... yaris is fast n can keep up with almost any car on the higway, but the acceleration is killing me, its terrible... anyone facing with acceleration problem?

I like the sound system. Surprizingly good.

Small engine + GREAT mileage = Slow off the line.
Fact of life. If you want acceleration, you'll pretty much have to go for something more expensive to run. The way most people drive, though, you'll still beat them off the lights, simply because they don't realise you're racing :biggrin:

:eyebulge:

lol ur right... i cant complain about it... i wont deny about trying to beat the ppl when the lights go green, love kickin butt. hehehehehe:tongue:

I don't like jerks who think they can blow me off the line so I am a jerk back and mash the accelerator down.:barf:

Word came down Friday 32 hours...I can live with that. Just about every factory around here has done this, after they laid off to the bare bones.

Why so many cars???? :iono: Why not? Maybe ask Jay Leno.

Yaris is near the top of the list out of all of them. Or maybe I'm just getting old and want something practical and dependable, that does everything I need.

Ah yes for the love of cars.:drool:

get a STANDARD - that will solve your acceleration issues.

small engine = small car =/= automatic.

offering an automatic for such small cars is just..........dumb.

and if you just have to have it, then expect your power reserve to be alot less!

Yes dumb from a power utilization point but smart in marketing and selling of more Yaris's than if auto trans was not available.

For some reason, I don't think that's a stretch for you. Honestly, I can't imagine living like that...constantly complaining about everything. Is anything/anyone ever good enough? That would drive me and everyone around me UP THE FLIPPING WALL.

I admire some one speaking their mind and not blindly ignoring the short commings of any car. This is Toyota's entry level vehicle and that is that.

"...and sadly in conclusion - truely "fun cars" - those with stiff suspensions, tight non-powered stearing, and stick simply no longer exist in this country."

Sad, but true; they stopped making the Suzuki Swift hatchback in 2001...

:cry:

The wrx from Subaru has these traits. Guess it is not considered a micro car?

-I thought the car could use more insulation from road noise. Though it would make it heavier and I don't want that.

-Steering is very precise.

-Rattles in a few places though it may be from the conversion.

-Seats are comfortable IMO.

I like the idea behinde the car. Inexpensive transportation to own and to drive. I have 3000 miles on mine and I like it. Take care.:bow:

pirate

04-10-2009, 11:42 PM

I love my Yaris. Both of them! My wife has a 2007 sedan, and I have a 2008 sedan. The price was right and the mileage is fantastic. I average 42 mpg, and my wife averages 47mpg. She has gotten as high as 50 mpg (she drives like a girl!)

I really wanted to purchase an American made car, but I couldn't find an attractive and economical one. Apparently, US automakers think Americans only want overpriced inefficient cars. (Go figure they need a bailout...)

joelitton

04-11-2009, 12:23 AM

I've not read this whole thread. But I can say this:
- I used to have a Geo Metro ...I believe it and the Suzuki Swift were really the same car. Loved that car, and routinely got 50 mpg ...but it did not feel safe. The metal was SO thin. Still, it was a fun car...even with no A/C
- traded it in on a Subaru Outback that I had for 10 years. Loved that car too (my sis owns it now)
- I've had my 08 Yaris LB for 15 months and absolutely LOVE it. It looks good, gets good mileage (consistent 40mpg these days), drives great ...I still enjoy every single time I drive it.

So after glancing at some of the posts in here, I feel real lucky that I've had so many years of truly digging whatever car I had at the time. I DID look for a US car that would be comparable ...ended up buying the Yaris because it was the ONLY car that met all of my requirements. And I'm just as happy with it now as the day I picked it up :)

mryaris

04-12-2009, 03:06 AM

- that is why there is no modern equivalents to the Bugeye Sprite or MGs or VW Beetles anymore.

I have a '59 Bugeye that was, believe it or not, my daily driver for the past 2 years......until I bought my Yaris last month. It is, without a doubt, the most fun car I have ever owned. It just really sucks in the snow and being in Colorado, you have to contend with snow enough times to make it impractical to really drive it year round.

I also owned a '93 Suzuki Swift GT.....it was an entertaining car and pretty fun to drive too. The suspension was set up to handle corners very well.....it had 4 wheel disc brakes (something I think all cars should have) and a 100 HP twin cam engine that loved to rev. I averaged 38 MPG with that car until the engine died.

I have had my Yaris hatchback for a month now (~1200 miles) and I'm averaging 35 MPG in almost all city-style driving. I have not been able to do any long highway drives yet, but I am fairly confident that it'll get 40MPG on the highway.....as it is, I am very pleased with the mileage I am getting considering the 12 miles of stop and go traffic I contend with every day.

It gets me to and from work reliably, which is what I needed. Not that the Bugeye is unreliable, but it was in the sense that if it snowed then I had no way to get to work. Now that spring is upon us, I will be driving the Bugeye more than the Yaris......I get the same 35 MPG, but in top down style. :headbang: