Which lowering springs should I choose?

[Danish Yaris]

Hi

I have a Toyota Yaris 1,3 5dr. Hatchback from 2007, the European model.
I would like to get it lowered, but only by springs.

Which set does the job well and is a good quality so the springs doesn´t break when driving in the cold weather in Denmark with salt on the roads.

I have looked at some Tanabe springs, but what´s the difference on DF210 and NF210 and is Tanabe a quality brand, never heard of it in Denmark.
The DF210 should lower by 1,6 front and 1,8 rear, but why does it lower more in the rear, usually I think it should be lowered more in the front?

Also looked at Tein that is a little more expensive and it should lower by 1,9 inches front and rear.

Anybody have experiences with these sets or others and do they lower the car as much as promised?

Then I have looked at the original Toyota TTE springs, but they doesn´t lower it much, www.tte.de .

Regards Steven.

[thebarber]

tanabe seems to be a decent japanese brand....i wouldnt worry about them

and youre not THAT cold in denmark....hovering around 0C....but i could see the salt being a pain if they use a lot.....but no aftermarket spring would rust thru any quicker than OEM springs....

what size of drop do you want? big drop or not big drop?

[m911gt]

Like the Barber said, it depends on the desired drop. I had Tein S-Tech lows on my car for about 8 months, really liked the stance and feel they gave my car but they rubbed too much for my liking. More recently I swapped the Teins for a set of Tanabe NF210's and I like them much better...they seem to give the car a bit of a stiffer ride and there is virtually no rubbing even under hard cornering.

Unless you are willing to invest in coil-overs, I would put my money to use on a set of Tanabe's. If you would like a "dramatic" drop, get the DF210's, if you would like a mild drop and a great ride, buy the NF210's. Garm is selling them both at great prices...

www.microimageonline.com

[Danish Yaris]

tanabe seems to be a decent japanese brand....i wouldnt worry about them

and youre not THAT cold in denmark....hovering around 0C....but i could see the salt being a pain if they use a lot.....but no aftermarket spring would rust thru any quicker than OEM springs....

what size of drop do you want? big drop or not big drop?

Hi

I want a drop at about 4cm., it must be about 1,6 to 1,8 inches.

It´s not that cold in Denmark, but it´s just above 0*C now and they like to use very much salt on the roads.
I have just heard about some that has broke their H&R springs.

What do you use?

Regards Steven.

[cali yaris]

^ thanks for posting that info.

on the product pages it gives spring rates and drops. The DF210's are closer to 1.8-2" from customer reviews.

I might also mention the killer deal we have on Progress springs right now -- they are between the DF and NF Tanabe springs in drop, and only $144.95 right now (until I run out).

[Danish Yaris]

Like the Barber said, it depends on the desired drop. I had Tein S-Tech lows on my car for about 8 months, really liked the stance and feel they gave my car but they rubbed too much for my liking. More recently I swapped the Teins for a set of Tanabe NF210's and I like them much better...they seem to give the car a bit of a stiffer ride and there is virtually no rubbing even under hard cornering.

Unless you are willing to invest in coil-overs, I would put my money to use on a set of Tanabe's. If you would like a "dramatic" drop, get the DF210's, if you would like a mild drop and a great ride, buy the NF210's. Garm is selling them both at great prices...

www.microimageonline.com

Hi

I want about 1,6 to 1,8 inches drop.

What do you mean with it rubbed too much? Do the wheels rub onto the wheel wells or fenders?

How much did the Tein S-Tech lower your car?

You say I should choose the DF210 for a dramatic drop and the NF210 for a great ride? What do you mean by that? Does it get bad handling with the DF210´s?
I would like the car to be stiff and good in the curves?

Who is Garm?

Regards Steven.

[Danish Yaris]

^ thanks for posting that info.

on the product pages it gives spring rates and drops. The DF210's are closer to 1.8-2" from customer reviews.

I might also mention the killer deal we have on Progress springs right now -- they are between the DF and NF Tanabe springs in drop, and only $144.95 right now (until I run out).

Hi

I have sent you a PM.

Regards Steven.

[thebarber]

cali yaris = garm

sounds like progress springs might do the trick if the shipping isnt too much...

[Danish Yaris]

Hi

I have sent Garm a PM.

Regards Steven.

[ZING]

Hi

I have sent Garm a PM.

Regards Steven.


Steven, I think TRD have an outlet in sweden, they did when I lived there at least. Should be cheaper to order from there.

[ChinoCharles]

DF's FTW. I think those and the S Tech's have the best stance, since they're very similar. One of my few regrets on my car is that I am on TRD springs and not DF's, but that is what coilovers are for. :smile:

[ZING]

Might take that offer of DF's..

[Danish Yaris]

Hi

I think I will buy the DF210´s, but am a little cocerned about if the front tires will rub against the plastic on the fenders.

Regards Steven.

[m911gt]

Hi

I want about 1,6 to 1,8 inches drop.

What do you mean with it rubbed too much? Do the wheels rub onto the wheel wells or fenders?

How much did the Tein S-Tech lower your car?

You say I should choose the DF210 for a dramatic drop and the NF210 for a great ride? What do you mean by that? Does it get bad handling with the DF210´s?
I would like the car to be stiff and good in the curves?

Who is Garm?

Regards Steven.

Steven,

The rubbing was between the tire and the wheel well, not the fenders.

The Tein S-Tech springs lowered my car approximately 1.9" at each corner.

I apologize for my choice of words regarding the choice between the NF and the DF; what I mean is that the NF springs have provided me with a better feel than the Teins with a nice looking drop but the car does not sit as low as it would with the DF springs. You won't really get a stiff ride by just swapping out the springs, you may have to upgrade your shocks/struts and purchase other suspension add-ons.

-Matt

[Danish Yaris]

Steven,

The rubbing was between the tire and the wheel well, not the fenders.

The Tein S-Tech springs lowered my car approximately 1.9" at each corner.

I apologize for my choice of words regarding the choice between the NF and the DF; what I mean is that the NF springs have provided me with a better feel than the Teins with a nice looking drop but the car does not sit as low as it would with the DF springs. You won't really get a stiff ride by just swapping out the springs, you may have to upgrade your shocks/struts and purchase other suspension add-ons.

-Matt

Hi Matt

Ok, but it must me more stiff than it is stock when it´s lowered about 1,6"-1,8"?
Which wheels did you have on when it rubbed the wheel wells and can there be done anything to it? Was it every time you drove?

Regards Steven.

[cali yaris]

NF210 is about 5% over stock in stiffness, DF210 is 10-15%.

[ZING]

Is anything else necessary besides the springs, such as coils?

[Phaeton]

You can put new struts/shocks on but if you just want to drop it with springs, feel free.
I have DF210 springs on mine with the stock shocks and 37,000 miles, no problems.

[computerlove87]

I am looking for a slight drop for a 2009 LB 3dr that maintains ride comfort and more importantly evens out the front and back end of the Yaris (so that the bottom of the car is parrallel with the ground instead of being at an angle from it)(think of what a stock yaris looks like if 2 adults are sitting in back.). I do not like the fact that the yaris looks like the back is higher than the front. most people tell me to get the tannabe nf210's, but I heard there was a set from tein that works even better for an even trim. What do you guys think?

Also, I want the tires to be a little bit farther out from the chassis, and I also saw these:

http://shop.microimageonline.com/product.sc?categoryId=4&productId=60

H&R wheel spacers. I have absolutely no tuning experience, so I have no idea what these do. What do they do to the ride comfort? the handling? are they bad for the car in any way? Will there be too much rubbing with these AND lowering springs?

[ZING]

http://funny.tehjunk.com/ThreadHijack-Car.jpg

[Phaeton]

The spacers will only bring the back wheels out so they are flush with your fender.

[33OH]

I've been on DF210's ever since I bought the car; great ride, absolutely no rubbing (on 15" aftermarket wheels, can't remember the tire size off-hand, but they're wide.)

It snows a lot here in Ohio and I still highly recommend these springs. :thumbsup:



Not the greatest pictures, but here's before and after:

[texkid]

I am on DF120's as well. I like the feel and look. There are times in downtown Houston where I wish they had stock springs back on. They have made me more aware of my driving and remember where the potholes and speed bumps are. Other than that, well worth the money.

[MUSKOKA800]

Steven, I think TRD have an outlet in sweden, they did when I lived there at least. Should be cheaper to order from there.


I have TRD springs in my sedan. They advertise a 1.2" drop however after a month or so mine settled in at closer to 1.5" drop (~38mm), or close to 4 cm.

[Never Enough]

Progress makes great springs. Let me know if I can help you with the price. http://www.neverenoughauto.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=5202

[cali yaris]

Progress springs are pretty good, a little softer than Tanabe though.

They are also cheaper @ only $144.95 shipped.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10138

[train317]

I installed DF210s on my 2008 S Sedan two weeks ago and was extremely worried I would have some, or all, of the problems covered in the various forms. (I currently have the optional 15" Toyota alloy wheels and tires) To my relief I have not experienced any problems with rubbing, bottoming out, speed bumps, etc. My car looks awesome and I would have been disappointed if I had not gone as low as the DFs. I bought my DF's for $180.00 (including shipping) from California to Michigan. Micro Image appears to have an awsome price and good rep! (Wish now I would have ordered from them) The ride is barely noticeable firmer and feels great in the turns. Plan on posting pics once it stops snowing!!!:thumbsup:

[ZING]

Ryank I want that spoiler, where did you buy it from?

[Danish Yaris]

I've been on DF210's ever since I bought the car; great ride, absolutely no rubbing (on 15" aftermarket wheels, can't remember the tire size off-hand, but they're wide.)

It snows a lot here in Ohio and I still highly recommend these springs. :thumbsup:



Not the greatest pictures, but here's before and after:

Hi

I have decided to get the Tanabe DF210´s, I can see the difference from stock and now. Are your wheels a lot wider than the stock 15"?

Regards Steven.

[Danish Yaris]

Ryank I want that spoiler, where did you buy it from?

Hi

I have bought the same spoiler.
It´s a Toyota TTE original spoiler and your Toyota dealer can order it for you.
You can see it here: www.tte.de .

Regards Steven.

[cali yaris]

train317, thanks for the kind words -- I hope you can become our customer for other parts. :thumbsup:

[train317]

cali yaris, you can count on my business!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Pitt Yaris]

Anyone here have the progress springs or suggestions on them? I would like something between nf and df, but I'd appreciate reviews of them. I want a drop like the df, but i want comfort and no rubbing....?

[33OH]

You really won't rub on DF's unless you go with a rim/tire size not recommended in the guide. I rub a TINY bit if I turn my wheel all the way with DF210's on my new 17x7 +42 rims with 205/45/17 tires. When I had 15's on it, no rubbing at all.

[Pitt Yaris]

I have no knowledge of wheels, tires, springs, etc. As in what to combine. Basically, I wanna get either 16's or 17's and lowering springs. Which one will hurt me the least? *Shocks/struts wearing down due to springs*?

[33OH]

I really don't either. I just know I've been running DF210's with stock struts for about a year (30,000 miles) and have had no issues at all.

I'll let the experts chime in a little better if they could.

[frownonfun]

seems like one more hijack won't hurt soo...

can i run the DFs or NFs on TRD shocks/struts? and if so would there be much benefit over the stock struts?

[detroiter]

I'm guessing that it would be fine. The TRD shocks are going to be much firmer then the OEM ones on the car, so there should be no side effects such as bottoming out. But since it's going to be alot firmer, you should already know that the ride is going to be a bit stiffer instead of a smooth luxury ride.

[cali yaris]

Tokico > TRD

I've tried both, and both are great shocks/struts, but I think Tokico pricing is more favorable.

[detroiter]

can you give us some insight on the tokicos? I'm thinking of running tokico blues and TRD lowering springs, kind of curious how it will work out.

[dallas]

It will work out great, when you get a performance spring it is stiffer so when the spring compresses it bounces back with more energy and force, the performance struts/shocks are valved to have firmer rebound dampening to solve that issue, Cheers!