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ftblstr
01-25-2009, 04:38 PM
I have the itch for a new car. I currently drive a 1999 Dodge intrepid with 145,000 and I'm set on the Black 5 dr Hb

Got a written quote from the dealer for $15,671 out the doorwhich included Power windows, locks, cold weather package, air, and all the good stuff.

I saw some talk here regarding an updated 2010 model coming out later this year that improves on the car (mileage and anything else?). Does anyone have any info on this, or if it is true. Is it worth waiting?

Also I read on Jalopnik that toyota will be offering larger rebates on its cars. Currently in Illinois, the rebate is only $500 and for recent college grad...anyone think it will go lower?

Thanks for your help and enjoy reading about all of your love for these little cars.

firebird1999us
01-25-2009, 04:53 PM
I have the itch for a new car. I currently drive a 1999 Dodge intrepid with 145,000 and I'm set on the Black 5 dr Hb

Got a written quote from the dealer for $15,671 out the doorwhich included Power windows, locks, cold weather package, air, and all the good stuff.

I saw some talk here regarding an updated 2010 model coming out later this year that improves on the car (mileage and anything else?). Does anyone have any info on this, or if it is true. Is it worth waiting?

Also I read on Jalopnik that toyota will be offering larger rebates on its cars. Currently in Illinois, the rebate is only $500 and for recent college grad...anyone think it will go lower?

Thanks for your help and enjoy reading about all of your love for these little cars.

Toyota is starting to hurt for sales right now just like everybody else...I'm more than willing to bet that they'll com way off that price:iono:

voodoo22
01-25-2009, 06:12 PM
If you don't NEED, you should wait and you'll be glad you did, IMO.

Yawesh
01-25-2009, 08:31 PM
I have the itch for a new car. I currently drive a 1999 Dodge intrepid with 145,000 and I'm set on the Black 5 dr Hb

Got a written quote from the dealer for $15,671 out the doorwhich included Power windows, locks, cold weather package, air, and all the good stuff.

I saw some talk here regarding an updated 2010 model coming out later this year that improves on the car (mileage and anything else?). Does anyone have any info on this, or if it is true. Is it worth waiting?

Also I read on Jalopnik that toyota will be offering larger rebates on its cars. Currently in Illinois, the rebate is only $500 and for recent college grad...anyone think it will go lower?

Thanks for your help and enjoy reading about all of your love for these little cars.

if your Intrepid lasted that long it must be the 3.2 motor , or 3.5

sadly i once had the 2.7 :thumbdown: it didn't make past 30k!

Bob_VT
01-25-2009, 09:43 PM
Well Toyota really is not going to go to far since the Yaris holds the LOWEST profit margin for the dealer. Take that price and shop it at another dealer but they are not as hungry as you think.

Toyota does a 5 year cycle on cars so do not anticipate any major changes until 2012 on the US Toyota......

The pure pleasure from the Yaris will make up for the fact you did it as compared to your present car.

ftblstr
01-26-2009, 01:09 AM
Actually the intrepid is the 2.7l (worst engine ever made). Got it 4-5 years ago and it had 75 k on it.
Could have been a new engine. Thats why I'm expecting this one to go soon.

I did shop that price around, but other dealers replied that they couldn't meet/beat that price. Then I saw this link and thinking hey, could it get any better?

http://jalopnik.com/5134444/toyota-offering-cash-incentive-on-prius-for-first-time

I know I "should" wait to buy a car...I'm 25 y/old. Always had beaters that I used for a few years and got rid of

SilverBack
01-26-2009, 01:27 AM
If you don't NEED, you should wait and you'll be glad you did, IMO.

+1. If you're trying to save a few bucks and just need basic transportation, then getting one now would be a good idea. Also, it's pretty much the end of the month, which means dealers need to make their sales quota. Seeing as how they're more desperate to sell than usual (because of the recession), you should get an even better deal if you go in this week

tetzyamis
01-26-2009, 02:51 AM
I have the itch for a new car. I currently drive a 1999 Dodge intrepid with 145,000 and I'm set on the Black 5 dr Hb

Got a written quote from the dealer for $15,671 out the doorwhich included Power windows, locks, cold weather package, air, and all the good stuff.

I saw some talk here regarding an updated 2010 model coming out later this year that improves on the car (mileage and anything else?). Does anyone have any info on this, or if it is true. Is it worth waiting?

Also I read on Jalopnik that toyota will be offering larger rebates on its cars. Currently in Illinois, the rebate is only $500 and for recent college grad...anyone think it will go lower?

Thanks for your help and enjoy reading about all of your love for these little cars.


$15,671 out of door is such a good deal!
How much is the tax in your state?

fnkngrv
01-26-2009, 03:36 AM
If you can afford it I would take the opportunity. I doubt that the 5 dr would go much cheaper than that. They might known a couple hundred off if you are very lucky, but don't count on it. As it was mentioned this car is the least in their profit margin which does not equate to much for wiggle room, unless you are in an area where sales a slumping very very badly. You will start saving money just on fuel and maintenance in the first month over the Intrepid anyway not to mention having a solid warrantied vehicle.

Jungle Rot
01-26-2009, 12:54 PM
I priced a 09 Yaris Sedan M/T with Conv Pack with the 1000 rebate (TX). Out the door $14,762. (No power windows or locks).

marcus
01-26-2009, 01:07 PM
so is there a change in 2010..

Havana
01-26-2009, 01:44 PM
I have heard rumors of an all new Yaris for 2010. The current Yaris dates to 2005, correct? It was already available in foreign markets before being brought to the US in 2006. I've heard the new Toyota Aygo might make it to US in 2010 rebadged as a new Yaris. This is all rumor from car guys who love to spread rumors.

voodoo22
01-26-2009, 01:57 PM
so is there a change in 2010..

I've heard an all new yaris in 2011, but the 2010 yaris might get the new 1.33 engine in NA.

marcus
01-26-2009, 03:14 PM
well it seems like there will be a change toyota will try to beat the new fit will be hp of 120hp heres the link.

http://www.autoincar.com/next-generation-2010-2011-toyota-yaris-improved-more-powerful/

tetzyamis
01-26-2009, 03:36 PM
well it seems like there will be a change toyota will try to beat the new fit will be hp of 120hp heres the link.

http://www.autoincar.com/next-generation-2010-2011-toyota-yaris-improved-more-powerful/

This sounds like all new Yaris, since they're talking about body size being bigger.

nemelek
01-26-2009, 05:37 PM
The benefits of a new car are trouble free miles. The dodge might start to need things in the next year or so. Radiator, breaks, boots, transmission work are a few items that might start costing money. Did they offer a trade in quote on your car?

ftblstr
01-26-2009, 06:33 PM
Trade in...haha. I didnt even bother asking Kbb says ill get about 300 or so

I'm almost certain I have a leak in the radiator.

and I am positive I can sell it for 1200-1000 in the condition that it is in.

Dad does own a mechanic shop though...

Oh tough decisions.

I would have looked at the 08, but they don't have the 4 dr hatch for my fold down seats for my Puppy.

And I plan on having a little rugrat around in the next 3-4 years, but neither here nor there..

What is this someone said about the 1.33 liter engine. I really don't care about performance. As long as it can do 75-80 max on the highway and get me on the road merging I am happy (and hoping for 35 mpg average)

Thanks for the advice everyone

**oh and taxes would be $1097.00 in (IL)**

tetzyamis
01-26-2009, 07:08 PM
**oh and taxes would be $1097.00 in (IL)**

Wow, then you're quoted for below dealer invoice.
That's amazing.
5dr LB with just power package is $14,782 dealer invoice.
Is that price after $1000 rebate or something?

voodoo22
01-27-2009, 08:13 AM
well it seems like there will be a change toyota will try to beat the new fit will be hp of 120hp heres the link.

http://www.autoincar.com/next-generation-2010-2011-toyota-yaris-improved-more-powerful/

Nice link.

Notice it says september 2010 in Japan. Toyota (and Honda etc) usually get the kinks out of their new products before selling them in their North American market. They place an extremely high priority on minimizing possible issues for us to reduce bad press or loss of customer loyality.

You won't see those cars here until 2011 and we may not see that new 1.33l engine either, but that would be a huge mistake on their part. One way foreign companies keep the prices down for us cheapskates is by limiting our options and engine selection is one area which this practice is obvious. The Yaris in Japan has had start stop technology, nav systems, 1.0 engine options etc for years.

I'm really interested to see if they employ any of the manufacturing techniques developed for the new iQ in the Yaris as they said they would.

otterhere
01-29-2009, 02:49 PM
"Body size is more bigger than current overall."

Grammatically correct, not so much... But it makes me glad I bought THIS one; the Yaris is already more bigger than my Swift and plenty big enough!

otterhere
01-29-2009, 02:57 PM
About this TOYOTOA AYGO... What are its dimensions? Looked it up on the web, but I don't speak metric. Is it smaller or larger than the current Yaris?

:confused:

marcus
01-29-2009, 03:07 PM
About this TOYOTOA AYGO... What are its dimensions? Looked it up on the web, but I don't speak metric. Is it smaller or larger than the current Yaris?

:confused:

smaller..definetely smaller..aygo is toyotas smallest car i believe..it should match benz smart car.

otterhere
01-29-2009, 03:57 PM
smaller..definetely smaller..aygo is toyotas smallest car i believe..it should match benz smart car.

Drat; should've waited...

Now I'm upset. Wanted the absolutely smallest car I could find (but safer than the Smart Twofer), and NOW Toyota comes out with a smaller model... Grrrrr! So what do we know about the Aygo??? Guess I can always trade in the Yaris for one later...

:mad:

ftblstr
01-30-2009, 02:04 AM
Well just bought her

A Black 5 dr Hatchback
With

Power Package, Keyless Entry, Cold Weather Package, Cruise Control, Convenience package, floor mats. Think thats everything.

Before TTL I paid $15,177. A little below invoice.

However after all was said and done the car was 16000 OTD
$500 Rebate
with $1081 just in tax
with 5.9 % x 60 mo
and $2,500 down.

Plan to have the car paid off in 3 years.

I was actually at the dealership, on the phone with two other dealerships stating they could not beat that price, but would throw in the floor mats and match it.

I told my salesman that and he threw in the floor mats.

First new car purchase and probably my last. Not worth the hassle.

Cant wait to break in the micro machine!

Any suggestions what play with first? Increase fuel mileage or make it a lil zippier w/out losing any MPG

nemelek
01-30-2009, 07:45 AM
There is another post about 0% for 36 months. If you are planning on paying off the car is 3 years maybe Toyota will redo the financing for you.

otterhere
01-30-2009, 01:06 PM
"I'm really interested to see if they employ any of the manufacturing techniques developed for the new iQ in the Yaris as they said they would."

I'm assuming the Aygo is the same as the IQ, or are these different models?

The only factor that would deter me from an Aygo (in favor of a Yaris) is whether or not I could fit my kayak and/or bike in the hatchback. But it appears the Aygo/IQ gets much better gas mileage, since it IS smaller...

:rolleyes:

twowheels
01-30-2009, 02:06 PM
I would have looked at the 08, but they don't have the 4 dr hatch for my fold down seats for my Puppy.

The three door model also has 60/40 folding rear seat, but that isn't very convenient with a little baby that can't jump in through the hatch like the puppy. :-) My kids are big enough to get in and out by themselves and they like the two door.


What is this someone said about the 1.33 liter engine. I really don't care about performance. As long as it can do 75-80 max on the highway and get me on the road merging I am happy (and hoping for 35 mpg average)

I wanted a 1.3 L engine and this is the first I've heard about it coming to NA. Our average (heavily weighted to highway miles) has been about 38.5 MPG for all tanks so far.

daf62757
01-30-2009, 03:56 PM
I have the itch for a new car. I currently drive a 1999 Dodge intrepid with 145,000 and I'm set on the Black 5 dr Hb

Got a written quote from the dealer for $15,671 out the doorwhich included Power windows, locks, cold weather package, air, and all the good stuff.

I saw some talk here regarding an updated 2010 model coming out later this year that improves on the car (mileage and anything else?). Does anyone have any info on this, or if it is true. Is it worth waiting?

Also I read on Jalopnik that toyota will be offering larger rebates on its cars. Currently in Illinois, the rebate is only $500 and for recent college grad...anyone think it will go lower?

Thanks for your help and enjoy reading about all of your love for these little cars.


Here's what I did. Go to Carmax.com and find out what they are selling a new Yaris for. Then print out their price and ask you Toyota dealer if they will match it. I got mine for $14,898 and it has almost every option.

Only deal by email....never by phone or person. Never allow them to tell you know...just email them and attach or list the link for the car at carmax and they will call you to match or even beat carmax's price.

Kal-El
01-31-2009, 10:22 PM
Well just bought her....


Congrats! Good move on not waiting because the 2010 will be unchanged for the most part (Toyota just refreshed it for '09 - more standard safety, new bumpers, ect..).

Don't expect an all new Yaris until the 2011/2012 model year.

minired5stby
01-31-2009, 11:42 PM
Definately get the 2009 the "S" type looks much better.

Kal-El
01-31-2009, 11:47 PM
Definately get the 2009 the "S" type looks much better.

He already went ahead and bought it. :smile:

minired5stby
01-31-2009, 11:52 PM
Well show some pics yeah

invol
02-02-2009, 08:32 PM
"Body size is more bigger than current overall."

Grammatically correct, not so much... But it makes me glad I bought THIS one; the Yaris is already more bigger than my Swift and plenty big enough!

Agreed. Why do they keep insisting on making the cars bigger and bigger? Pisses me off. If I had wanted a bigger car, I would've gotten the Corolla in the first place. http://smiliesftw.com/x/Smiley-Facepalm.gif The whole reason I got my Yaris was it was the smallest (read: lightest weight) 2-door car I could find here in the States that I could shove my kids in the back. I'm glad I got mine before they make them bigger.

voodoo22
02-03-2009, 08:18 AM
I don't know if I'd fit in any smaller, but I could easily go with a 1.0l engine.

kimona
02-03-2009, 11:40 AM
Well just bought her

A Black 5 dr Hatchback with:

Power Package, Keyless Entry, Cold Weather Package, Cruise Control, Convenience package, floor mats. Think thats everything.

Any suggestions what play with first? Increase fuel mileage or make it a lil zippier w/out losing any MPG

Congrats. Post some pics when you get a minute.

Just drive it 'til springtime, then think about that stuff.

Shroomster
02-03-2009, 11:53 AM
OH YEAH CHANGE WHAT YOU DRIVE UNDER YOUR NAME!

otterhere
02-03-2009, 01:07 PM
[QUOTE=invol;234272]Agreed. Why do they keep insisting on making the cars bigger and bigger? Pi$$es me off. If I had wanted a bigger car, I would've gotten the Corolla in the first place. QUOTE]

It must be the American mania for "super-sizing" (look at the CA woman who just had 8 babies on top of the other 6)... "Bigger is better" and "more is more," according to conventional wisdom. I, too, bought the Yaris because it was the smallest I could get without going to a Smart Twofer (too dangerous for interstates). The Aygo/IQ looks intriguing, but I DO have to haul a kayak.

:wink:

kimona
02-03-2009, 02:28 PM
This, unfortunately, is a prime example of the "super-sizing" going on here; otherwise known as the modern American. No wonder small cars have had a tough go of it.

CIPNGAS
02-14-2009, 10:16 PM
I have the itch for a new car. I currently drive a 1999 Dodge intrepid with 145,000 and I'm set on the Black 5 dr Hb

Also I read on Jalopnik that toyota will be offering larger rebates on its cars. Currently in Illinois, the rebate is only $500 and for recent college grad...anyone think it will go lower?

Thanks for your help and enjoy reading about all of your love for these little cars.

We were at the Dealership yesterday and the Mgr said Yaris has a rebate I think it was 750 which is a lot...and 500 isn't bad either You can look on the internet for dealer nearest you and it should tell you..You will love your Yaris they are sooooooooooooooo much fun...I sold my new Lexus because I wanted to have fun...And the only thing I miss are the cornering lights..

Benggolf2
02-15-2009, 02:35 AM
This, unfortunately, is a prime example of the "super-sizing" going on here; otherwise known as the modern American. No wonder small cars have had a tough go of it.

Sad, but true. Our neighbors right across the border are most heavy weights. :eek: