Chino's Turbo Thread

[ChinoCharles]

HUGE thanks to Joe (Black Yaris), Ryan and Paco from Doug's Tranz South, Mark, and Joe's wife for not killing him.

Installed, running, working... all is well.

As of right this second this is ZPI's turbo kit. As of this weekend that begins changing. Step one: replace the exhaust.

Impressions:

[1] Boost kicks at 3000 RPM. It is extremely easy to drive the car without touching the boost.
[2] In daily driving situations the car is dreamy. Acceleration is really smooth.
[3] The turbo kicks like a donkey. 14b is a good candidate.
[4] The car would wildly benefit from the following: LSD, beefy axles, internals and a tune. At 225+ WHP on slicks it would be an absolute riot.
[5] Cruises at 70 MPH @ 3100 RPM, just when the turbo kicks in. The setup is perfect for the freeway. Gives you that extra passing oomph.
[6] Ran pretty awful on 87. Much better on Sunoco 94. I'll be using Shell 93 from now on probably.
[7] This is no longer a snow-worthy car. I have 6 months to find a beater.

Pics in 20 minutes. There aren't many.

[jinxor]

Very Nice... Give us more details

[ChinoCharles]

Ask away.

[Nexus1155]

and a video you suspenseful mastermind you or atleast more pics!!!! Well heres also the kicker for being a brand new kit, no one sells 14bs anyone except the dealer for $1200 lol!!

[LtNoogie]

Don't forget that if it survives for 24 hours, you should ask Whooppee to add you to the list of boosted Yarii.

[mikenacarato]

very cool. awaiting pics!

[ChinoCharles]

Don't forget that if it survives for 24 hours, you should ask Whooppee to add you to the list of boosted Yarii.

IF... haha.

Added one thing to the impressions.

On the drive back, selling it crossed my mind once. This car belongs down south. Maybe I'll go and take it with me.

[kurokoma-kun]

Congrats! :clap: pretty awe inspiring

So, where do we donate to the Chino Needs Serious Head Work and More Fund? :wink:

[ChinoCharles]

So, where do we donate to the Chino Needs Serious Head Work and More Fund? :wink:


Though about that too. :laugh:

Think a port and polish would help at this point?

[LtNoogie]

Now you need tons of gauges and a ScanGauge to make you wonder if you are on the edge of blowing up your engine at any time. We Blitz'd owners need to share our nightmare with you turbo'd people.:tongue:

[cali yaris]

Hmmm, I need a first car for my son... :rolleyes:

[m911gt]

subscribed

[blacksandiegovitz]

and a video you suspenseful mastermind you or atleast more pics!!!! Well heres also the kicker for being a brand new kit, no one sells 14bs anyone except the dealer for $1200 lol!!

Really ??? I see them go all day long on craigslist/ebay for around 100 , you can rebuild it yourself for about $50 in parts or have a shop do it for about 250 . Just look for a stock 1g(89-94) eclipse turbo.

[ChinoCharles]

Oooooh, I just realized I can finally get my center exit exhaust! Yes!

I also want to see if I can yank 38 MPG on a tank. I'm guessing not.

[jinxor]

Did you dyno the car yet?

[ChinoCharles]

No. I'll be contacting Perfect Power in hopes of hearing that they think they can tune it, and then hopefully I can ditch the Emanage. (and the CEL) If not, I'll just get it retuned the way it is.

[jinxor]

So did you install it yourself? or got a professional to do the job..?? Is the kit bolt on or needs modifications to get it on

[kurokoma-kun]

Though about that too. :laugh:

Think a port and polish would help at this point?


Port & Polish... is that a drink?

j/k :wink: if not you should invent it, and soon... maybe a Guiness with a racing fuel chaser :biggrin:

[ChinoCharles]

I did almost none of the work. I can do little piddly installs but this one was way over my head. Black Yaris did most of the work. Paco @ Doug's Tranz wired the piggyback, and Ryan made sure we didn't blow anything up.

The kit is a bolt on that ZPI was selling a while back. As far as I know two or three were sold. One was damaged in an accident, so this is one of only one or two left. It is a bolt on kit and the piggyback was already tuned since it came from a donor Yaris c/o Spkrman. A few little things have to be moved or removed, but for the most part it basically bolts right in.

[ChinoCharles]

And so it begins...

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Shot from the back down the side

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Front is stripped

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Glorious blue stripe care of Highland Auto Body

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The HKS axle-back that Thomas sold to me. Next owner will be John's. The only one in the US! Can't buy this bad boy anywhere!

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Of course, Micro Image or fail.

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Decals on bottom.

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NST lovin'.

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My bumper.

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[ChinoCharles]

Me contemplating life.

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Me saying goodbye to...

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The "Chinotake." Made from the finest hacked xA intake and Cadillac radiator hose, she ran faithfully for 40,000 miles without throwing a CEL.

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Joe holding the turbo up triumphantly.

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Funny pictures on the lift.

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Unfortunately, pics of the final product have to wait two days. It is going to snow tonight and tomorrow. Sorry guys!

[Nexus1155]

love the pics!!! hopefully you have more. and i was talking about a new 14b, but i know used ones are plentiful!

[ChinoCharles]

This is all we got from the install. Time became a factor towards the end and we didn't have time to tool around taking pictures, but I promise once the weather breaks I'll give you guys plenty to look at.

[mikenacarato]

ooo and your coming to IA too....and giving me a ride... :)

[Gideon]

What's the possibility of getting the tuning map from the E-manage to give us DIYers someplace to start?

[ChinoCharles]

I'll be posting the tuning map. ZPI had rights to it before they fizzled to nothingness.

[Thej3sta2]

were are the install pics mannn

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Nice. Congrats on the new turbo. Glad the deal went thru smoothly.

[djgab101]

i want more pics.... !!!!! congratulations on the new turbo.......

[dallas]

Great stuff :thumbup:, can't wait to see more pictures, how many hours for the install?

[PETERPOOP]

sweeet. can't wait for dyno and a/f readings!

[cali yaris]

Welcome... to the real world. :clap:

[djgab101]

Welcome... to the real world. :clap:

i wish i was in that world.......:burnrubber:

[Sabretooth]

I'll be posting the tuning map. ZPI had rights to it before they fizzled to nothingness.


Awesome, at least this gives us something to start with instead of letting the ECU figure out wtf was going on.

[ChinoCharles]

Deal! :burnrubber:

[eTiMaGo]

ChinoCharles ridealongs: $10
handjobs accepted in lieu of cash :biggrin:

but seriously, awesome! I cannot think of a YW member more deserving of extra boost :laugh:

[ChinoCharles]

I can think of one... YOU!

[cali yaris]

I cannot think of a YW member more deserving of extra boost

EXTRA boost? umm... me? :bigggrin:

[AlexNet0]

huh, I cant see the pics

Awesome to hear it went well though, even if I dont know what it looks like! lol

[SIPNGAS]

Nice!!!

I am not worthy! ;o)

[PHXDEMON]

Glad the local deal went through for you. :thumbsup: I just couldn't trust someone I have never met across the country with a check for 800 + dollars.

[Black Yaris]

ChinoCharles ridealongs: $10
handjobs accepted in lieu of cash :biggrin:

but seriously, awesome! I cannot think of a YW member more deserving of extra boost :laugh:

I can think of one... YOU!

what about me :(
I know I can be an ass online, but ask any member that I have met... I am always there to help someone out

[eTiMaGo]

Joe, you have a cool xB which had pink wheels, those were equivalent to at least 10lb in boost, coolness-wise :biggrin:

[at3GG]

at least

[ChinoCharles]

Pictures this evening. Sit tight!

[PETERPOOP]

Whataboutvideos? :(

[KCALB SIRAY]

hold on Pete, I found one

[ChinoCharles]

All you would see is a really fast Yaris that sounds like shit because it needs a new exhaust. Sit tight for vids.

[KCALB SIRAY]

http://th176.photobucket.com/albums/w161/RandomE_photo/th_HamsterWheel.gif

Can't wait to see it for real

[ChinoCharles]

Getchya popcorn ready.

[ChinoCharles]

180 WHP and 179 WTQ I believe.

[whooppee777]

tight

[LtNoogie]

180 WHP and 179 WTQ I believe.

This thread is worthless without dyno charts posted. Make sure you post your AFR too.

Did you do anything to your fuel system? Bigger injectors, replaced the fuel pump? Are you lean?

[PETERPOOP]

180whp!? If you are making that, I'm jealousssss !!!!!!!!!

[Black Yaris]

Joe, you have a cool xB which had pink wheels, those were equivalent to at least 10lb in boost, coolness-wise :biggrin:

wish those bent pink wheels created 10psi... that would have been awesome

[ChinoCharles]

This thread is worthless without dyno charts posted. Make sure you post your AFR too.

Did you do anything to your fuel system? Bigger injectors, replaced the fuel pump? Are you lean?

Patience, Long. Jeez. Just because I don't have dyno charts yet doesn't mean I can't talk about the fact that there is a 14b strapped to my motor. I promise its there. :rolleyes:

Stock fuel pump, tC injectors, plugs 1 step colder. Running fine at low RPM. High RPM I'm running quite rich. I need an exhaust and a tune now... no, yesterday. I'm staying out of boost until I get both.

I know I promised pics yesterday but we were too busy going over the car. Didn't have time to run home and get the camera, but no worries... tonight we're going to the Forced 4's meetup @ Quaker Steak and Lube in Independence. 25 boosted Subys and one lonely Yaris. :laugh: I'll bring my camera to that.

[KCALB SIRAY]

Patience, Long. Jeez. Just because I don't have dyno charts yet doesn't mean I can't talk about the fact that there is a 14b strapped to my motor. I promise its there. :rolleyes:

Stock fuel pump, tC injectors, plugs 1 step colder. Running fine at low RPM. High RPM I'm running quite rich. I need an exhaust and a tune now... no, yesterday. I'm staying out of boost until I get both.

I know I promised pics yesterday but we were too busy going over the car. Didn't have time to run home and get the camera, but no worries... tonight we're going to the Forced 4's meetup @ Quaker Steak and Lube in Independence. 25 boosted Subys and one lonely Yaris. :laugh: I'll bring my camera to that.

I read all that and all I actually retained was the Quaker Steak and Lube...mmmm good wings:headbang:

[ChinoCharles]

Don't know yet. Need to find a dyno in Ohio that [1] is worth a damn, and [2] doesn't deal exclusively with Corvettes and Mustangs. :rolleyes: The wideband thing isn't going to happen before the tune. I'm not bankrolled by Garm. :laugh: I've come to the decision my previous dyno shop wasn't cutting it.

[33OH]

What about Buschur?

[ChinoCharles]

Where is Buschur?

OMG, Buschur tuned Yaris. I just got randy.

[33OH]

It's in Cleveland.

[33OH]

On the other hand, I did watch a Buschur tuned RX7 Turbo II catch on fire last time I went drag racing. haha. :laugh:

[ChinoCharles]

Yeah, I saw a Buschur Evo VII so an 11 second quarter mile. :bow: I'll call them @ lunch.

[33OH]

There was also a Buschur first-gen Corolla there, that thing was awesome.

[cali yaris]

how do you know you're running rich?

[ChinoCharles]

You can smell it.

[ChinoCharles]

Buschur doesn't deal with the E-manage. They specialize in the Apexi S-AFC. I could use their dyno and self tune, but I'm not nearly that 1337.

[33OH]

Ah, that's lame. Well I tried.

You might be able to call Summit and just ask them if they have a listing of dyno/tune shops.

[ChinoCharles]

I'm calling Slowmotion in Columbus. They're expensive, but they're pro.

[33OH]

When would you be going? We'd have to meet up either before or after on your way through. You'd drive straight through New Phila and Cambridge (where I work).

[ChinoCharles]

SlowMotion is going to tune it. $1000 for a custom exhaust and their best college try at getting rid of the CEL. They're one of the best tuners in the state. I'm emailing them info today.

[33OH]

That sounds great actually.

[at3GG]

sweet i hope it works out for you man. Every give that shift knob a try BTW?

[ChinoCharles]

Yes and I love it, thank you very much!

[Doc Zaius]

Hey Chino! Congrats on the boost! You've earned your wings, for sure! :biggrin:

[ChinoCharles]

Thanks Doc! :smile:

Just sent the info to Slowmotion. We will see what they say about our ECU difficulties.

[cdydjded]

how do you know you're running rich?

He went from 190cc injectors to 370cc injector. His car & your if you still have the TC injectors have to be running rich. Also for everyone's infomation, you cannot put more than 20% larger injectors without tunning. The 370's are 50% more, that too much.

[PetersRedYaris]

So if your going to eliminate the CEL, don't you have to (1) put the missing O2 sensor back, and (2) put the MAF where it's supposed to be (as in after the filter but before the turbo)? I'm just trying to think back to how the ZPI kit was built... Isn't the MAF in it's stock location, trying to measure pressurized air flow? I can't remember...

Oh, and congrats on the turbo. I'm jealous but must admit I was skeptical based on the sellers history.

[ChinoCharles]

He went from 190cc injectors to 370cc injector. His car & your if you still have the TC injectors have to be running rich. Also for everyone's infomation, you cannot put more than 20% larger injectors without tunning. The 370's are 50% more, that too much.It has a tune. Greddy E-manage. It just isn't the RIGHT tune.

So if your going to eliminate the CEL, don't you have to (1) put the missing O2 sensor back, and (2) put the MAF where it's supposed to be (as in after the filter but before the turbo)? I'm just trying to think back to how the ZPI kit was built... Isn't the MAF in it's stock location, trying to measure pressurized air flow? I can't remember...

Oh, and congrats on the turbo. I'm jealous but must admit I was skeptical based on the sellers history. That is correct. The MAF is in stock placement measuring boosted air. Poor MAF.

As far as tuning it without a CEL, as long as you can replicate the correct signals from the missing second O2 sensor in theory you should be able to tune it. In a perfect world I'd go standalone and we could forget about it, and since this is Ohio and it is the beginning of race season I could probably find a deal on a standalone, but I'm not going to bother. I'd love to be the one to figure out the tuning issue for the rest of us. I'm going to stop talking about tuning like I know anything about it now. All I know is my exhaust smells like gas and that is bad and it needs to be fixed.

I don't blame you for your concerns. I would have never done this deal if it weren't in person, and I was half tempted to not let anyone else do it remotely either, but I didn't want it to look like I was being a mizer. I just didn't want anyone to get "Evan from PE'd." Now that all is said and done I'm glad it went as planned. (Sort of... took an extra day)

I am going to go home and wash my car and go to this Suby meetup in hopes that between 25 boosted cars, one owner will know a guy who knows a guy who is a little closer to home and can help me with this tune. If this doesn't work, I'm going to Slowmotion.

[Black Yaris]

Tell Kirko what's up when you go to Slomotion.... he used to be one of the big tuner guys up here in Toledo, till he was offered the job down there

[LtNoogie]

He went from 190cc injectors to 370cc injector. His car & your if you still have the TC injectors have to be running rich. Also for everyone's infomation, you cannot put more than 20% larger injectors without tunning. The 370's are 50% more, that too much.

Yeah, I've offered to test fit some RC Engineering injectors in my motor to see if they'll fit. According to my calculations, 270 to 300 cc would be the max we can put into the Yaris and still expect the stock ECU to be able to control at idle.

[Crandall]

Congrats on the turbo Chino, hopefully all goes well and you make some good power. Nice to see another going the turbo route :)

[ChinoCharles]

Just got home from the meet @ Quaker Steak. Here are a few pics I snapped before I left.

Intercooler

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Engine Bay

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Shot down behind the block

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New filter

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The exhaust that needs to be put out of its misery

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Aaaand the car.

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[33OH]

:bow:

[Sabretooth]

:envy:

[eTiMaGo]

me likey :biggrin:

[crankyelbow]

Very cool :)

Now go beat up on some hondas ;)

I've yet to address my CEL issue... hoping its a simple fix.

[ChinoCharles]

Double check the sensors.

[blacksandiegovitz]

Very nice !

[TheRealEnth]

sorry if uve already mentioned it.. What wheels are those?

[ChinoCharles]

Konig Helium 15x6.5. They might go up for sale soon. I need something a little wider.

[ChinoCharles]

32.5 MPG on my first tank. Shell 93. ROFL awesome. :thumbsup:

[AlexNet0]

very nice, have you put it on the dyno yet or are you waiting for the tune?

[ChinoCharles]

Waiting for the exhaust. I was going to go to Slowmotion but I changed my mind. I joined Forced 4s, which is a forced induction car club from the Cleveland area. One of the members does exhausts and I'm going through him. I want to do a center exit dual tip setup but I'm not sure if it will be feasible yet. I have to see how much clearance it would leave me in the rear. Here are some pics from the meet on Thursday.

This is either a Solstice or a Sky. Can't remember which. Hahn Racecraft turbo setup that pushes over 300 WHP. Placed 10th in X class last year. Probably a top 5 car now.

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GMC Syclone. Something you don't see every day! These are uber rare! less than 3,000 made! This had a GT35R turbo pushing 25ish psi. 10 second pickup truck. :laugh:

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Imported twin turbo banana yellow JDM right hand drive RX7. :drool: x 4038568

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Pics of the crowd and the cars. There were probably 50 or so cars that came. By the end of summer that number could triple.

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One you may recognize. :biggrin:

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[PHXDEMON]

So how many people there were like "Holy shit is that a boosted Yaris" :laugh: Also why do you hate the exhaust so much?

[ChinoCharles]

Everyone was saying "holy shit that is a boosted Yaris." Nobody was ragging on me. It was refreshing. As of right this second I can claim I'm the only one in the states until Garm gets his on the ground. The unique factor always wins amongst cookie cutter DSM's and SRT-4's.

I hate the exhaust for two reasons. One, it rattles against the heat shield. Two, and this is my big pet peeve, but it sticks out too far from the bumper. It must DIE!

Also, it has no catalytic converter, and I'm all for power but I'm not all for not passing e-check when the time comes, so I'm putting a high-flow cat back in the system. Flame away, but you won't change my mind.

[ka0sx]

nice nice!


that first car is infact a SKY redline, looks slightly modded.

[cali yaris]

I want to do a center exit dual tip setup but I'm not sure if it will be feasible yet.

works for me :wink:

[Chris07LB]

Awesome man! What a great post to open tonight!

[ChinoCharles]

We shot a 0-90 run tonight. Video coming soon.

[Sabretooth]

Post now, or prepare to be banned!

lmao, jk

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Yup, I did my center exit WAAAAAY long ago. You can even do it on the factory exhaust if you really wanted to.

[ChinoCharles]

Just paid 50% down on my exhaust. Components arrive Wednesday, exhaust gets installed Saturday.

[PETERPOOP]

We shot a 0-90 run tonight. Video coming soon.

hurry up

[AlexNet0]

lol I am anxious as well

[at3GG]

am i the only one who cant see those pics? all i see is text lol

[at3GG]

ahh figured it out nm...sweeeettt.....No Problem on the shift knob man glad it found a good home! Now i know my little piece has been paid to the first turbo yaris on the east coast!

[ChinoCharles]

Hell yeah man!

Video is out of my hands, but I'm checking the other forum often looking for it. As soon as its up you guys will know.

[ChinoCharles]

Alright, video.

Before anyone goes crying, we made this as safe as humanly possible.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v644/turbotractor97/?action=view&current=MVI_0569.flv

[KCALB SIRAY]

woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChinoCharles]

Keep in mind my tires are pretty much shot and I lurch out of first. Don't take it as a top speed run, but at least you can hear her purr.

[KCALB SIRAY]

I'm just dizzy from the camera, but glad to see it run pretty well for you

[ChinoCharles]

I think a 7 second 0-60 is reasonable. Quarter in the high 13 range? This is just me estimating. No way to know without tires and a better camera shot.

[KCALB SIRAY]

excel, I'd agree....for now lol

[PETERPOOP]

whoa 13s?

Need way more videos. That did not suffice, at all.

[ChinoCharles]

I ran a 16.5 stock, so I think a 13.9 sounds reasonable. Its all speculation though. Track is open April 21st, so we will know soon enough. First thing first... exhaust!

[ChinoCharles]

http://forced4s.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=568&sid=316e36f1dbee154c768fc38804bae38b

One of the club cars. Look at that DROP and that FENDER ROLL and those WHEELS. UGH.

[PETERPOOP]

I ran a 16.5 stock, so I think a 13.9 sounds reasonable. Its all speculation though. Track is open April 21st, so we will know soon enough. First thing first... exhaust!

2.5" mandrel? Cat back? Headerback?

[ChinoCharles]

2.5" mandrel header back. Saturday.

[PETERPOOP]

how long of resonator or hi flow cat?

[ChinoCharles]

That I don't know. I'm leaving it to the expert. All I specified was that it have a cat, muffler and flex tube and that it is geared to perform.

[ruimond]

The turbo sounds sweet, Mmm the BOV.:thumbup: Looks pretty fast. Congrats on the Turbo setup.

[ChinoCharles]

Thanks dood. Hope we find a kit for everyone else soon! Turbo Yarii everywhere!

[djgab101]

Thanks dood. Hope we find a kit for everyone else soon! Turbo Yarii everywhere!

i hope soo...

i dont think i can wait till the 21st!!! for mroe test runs!!
congrats!! :clap:

[m911gt]

Don't be messing with my gangster lean!

yes, Chino is quite the g, let me tell you.

nice video Charles, I can't wait to check out your car again this summer.

[Yoda]

<<<<<, Me jealous looks and sounds nice. almost wet my pants...

[ChinoCharles]

I deleted a few posts because I was in a bad mood and made an ass out of myself. Woops! Keep your hands at 10 and 2, kids!

[cali yaris]

..or 9 and 3.

Thanks for the PM chino - we're friends again, whew

:: extends hand to shake hands ::

now go tear it up, dawg [and make more videos]

[ChinoCharles]

Ah, of course. I can be stupid sometimes, too. Hard to believe, right? :rolleyes: :laugh:

Now, that supmet guy... :slice: LOL

[supmet]

Now, that supmet guy... :slice: LOL

Yes, if only I was dead, that would somehow prevent you from posting and making yourself look like an ass.

[at3GG]

::sigh:: back to the turbo...how many pairs of underwear you go through so far?

[ChinoCharles]

LOL

[KCALB SIRAY]

I deleted a few posts because I was in a bad mood and made an ass out of myself. Woops! Keep your hands at 10 and 2, kids!

and keep your hands off the bishop while driving the turbo...no chubbin the monkey while spooling lol

[ChinoCharles]

... only you Mike. Only you. :bellyroll:

[cali yaris]

I think that's allowed, actually... it's pretty hard to resist, I have to say.... :rolleyes:

[Russelt3hPirate]

2.5" mandrel header back. Saturday.

Header back or turbo back?

are you re doing your downpipe?

pics of the exhaust/intercooler piping and better shots of turbo placement would be nice.

[Russelt3hPirate]

are you having issues with it being Blow thru?

[ChinoCharles]

Turbo back, you're right Russel. My bad. Also, by blow thru do you mean the fact that it dumps under the car?

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

DAMM, I keep forgetting to look at this thread at home. i want to see that video......

[Russelt3hPirate]

no.

I mean your maf now sees boost where it never did before.

generally on Turbo cars with a maf the maf sensor is pre turbo to avoid some of the issues with the blow thru.

[ChinoCharles]

:iono: Haven't been to a dyno yet, but I'm assuming the E-manage accounts for that somehow. Actually, it runs better now than it did when i first installed it. I'm really happy with it now, minus the CEL. I'm declaring war on that light this summer.

[Russelt3hPirate]

what's the CEL for?

good luck getting it all tuned, once that MAF sees boost you may need to re do your intake piping.

that MAF isn't used to seeing that much air flow, the Emanage may not be able to adjust the trims enough.

either way keep us posted.

[at3GG]

dyno that %#$% !!

[ChinoCharles]

The MAF is already seeing boost. It is in the stock location.

[Russelt3hPirate]

The MAF is already seeing boost. It is in the stock location.

you said you were staying out of boost until you got it tuned?

has the maf seen 8psi yet?

[at3GG]

something tells me he's wound it up once or twice....

[ChinoCharles]

you said you were staying out of boost until you got it tuned?

has the maf seen 8psi yet?

The kit is already "tuned" and honestly like I said I think there was some ECU wonkiness in the beginning that went away over time. It runs a lot better now than it did on day 1.

Yes, the MAF has seen 8 psi. Watch the video a couple pages back.

[Russelt3hPirate]

The kit is already "tuned" and honestly like I said I think there was some ECU wonkiness in the beginning that went away over time. It runs a lot better now than it did on day 1.

Yes, the MAF has seen 8 psi. Watch the video a couple pages back.

gotcha, keep us posted.

can you post a log of the maf volts?

[ChinoCharles]

I want to drag ZPI's tune off the E-manage and post it up. Patience... new exhaust this Saturday, 1/4 mile full tree on Tuesday (weather permitting) and we will go from there.

[PHXDEMON]

DAMM, I keep forgetting to look at this thread at home. i want to see that video......

Same here :laugh:

[cali yaris]

ooh 1/4 mile.. YES!!!

[ChinoCharles]

Yes, 1/4 mile hopefully with cockpit video.

[dallas]

Finally a quarter mile comming, this is what I have been waiting for for over a year on this forum :bow::bow: :thumbup:

[CtrlAltDefeat]

*hops up and down in his chair*:drool::drool::drool::respekt::respekt:

[33OH]

I want to drag ZPI's tune off the E-manage and post it up. Patience... new exhaust this Saturday, 1/4 mile full tree on Tuesday (weather permitting) and we will go from there.

Where you heading to 1/4 mile it?

[ChinoCharles]

Dragway 42 in West Salem. http://dragway42.com/ You should come Ryan, it isn't too far from you.

[ChinoCharles]

I just checked the weather for next week. Not looking good. Rain on Tuesday. Might have to wait! Cross your fingers!

[33OH]

Dragway 42 in West Salem. http://dragway42.com/ You should come Ryan, it isn't too far from you.

That's where I always run. But Tuesday? Come on, haven't you heard of a weekend? :biggrin:

[ChinoCharles]

They're usually booked on the weekends, although it looks like in the beginning of the season they do run on weekends. If not Tuesday, maybe Saturday.

[33OH]

They're not booked on the test & tune nights. Hell, I'll even run ya. =P

[cali yaris]

14.2 -- my prediction

[Russelt3hPirate]

14.2 -- my prediction

15.8 with a 2.4 60ft

[ChinoCharles]

15.8 with a 2.4 60ft

DEFINITELY not. Ran a 16.5 bone stock.

14.2 sounds reasonable. I'm going to gun for 13.9 though.

[Russelt3hPirate]

DEFINITELY not. Ran a 16.5 bone stock.

14.2 sounds reasonable. I'm going to gun for 13.9 though.

think you can break into the high 80's trap?

[eTiMaGo]

only one way to find out :wink:

[Nexus1155]

I think you should scoop up a cheap set of racing slicks from craigslist... and do the poly engine mount mod, then rip it down the track

[ChinoCharles]

Its all speculation, but I'm shooting for a 100 MPH trap too. Going to be tough.

[PETERPOOP]

whoa now, whoa now guys..

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

15.8 with a 2.4 60ft

i believe i can run that now with my setup.....

[ChinoCharles]

I don't know, I did everything short of a clutch drop @ 5 grand and couldn't get into the low 16's, and I had damn near every bolt on imaginable.

[AlexNet0]

^ dont forget about the "chinotake" :bellyroll:

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

I don't know, I did everything short of a clutch drop @ 5 grand and couldn't get into the low 16's, and I had damn near every bolt on imaginable.

clutch drop @ 5 grand will do that. i do believe i will fare better.....

[Nexus1155]

Ughhh don't clutch drop thats how i ruined my clutch, try to get it on the swing of the clutch pickup, practice and you'll get a better launch every time

[ChinoCharles]

Hey, the Chinotake was the shiznit. I'd stack that bad boy against anything for suction purposes... problem is the car was never tuned to know what to do with it.

Good luck with that Rockland! I know what I could have shaved off my time with better shifts, but my launch was almost perfect. 2500-3000 RPM is the sweet spot for a stockish Yaris on street tires. Get some slicks, up that starting RPM and shift a little faster than I and you might have a prayer for a 15.9.

[at3GG]

swing of the clutch pickup? what does that mean?

[ChinoCharles]

Let off the clutch fast enough to gain good traction off the line without spinning the tires. Tire spin is BAD.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

Good luck with that Rockland! I know what I could have shaved off my time with better shifts, but my launch was almost perfect. 2500-3000 RPM is the sweet spot for a stockish Yaris on street tires. Get some slicks, up that starting RPM and shift a little faster than I and you might have a prayer for a 15.9.
thanks for the good words but im no where near stockish.....

[ChinoCharles]

What... intake, full exhaust, pulleys, short shifter... what else is there?

[PETERPOOP]

and it's not even the underdrive pulley......

[cali yaris]

is the Chino-take for sale? I want to put it up on my wall "Yaris History"

[at3GG]

Let off the clutch fast enough to gain good traction off the line without spinning the tires. Tire spin is BAD.

thats what i was thinking just never actually heard a name for it

[at3GG]

What... intake, full exhaust, pulleys, short shifter... what else is there?

flux capacitor

[cali yaris]

Micro Image stickers? :laugh:

[LtNoogie]

Charles, how is your idling and low rpm engine response?

[Nexus1155]

flux capacitor

1.21 JIGGAWATTS!!!!!!

[at3GG]

1.21 JIGGAWATTS!!!!!!


:laughabove:

[ChinoCharles]

Long, idling is as good as stock. Idles a little high when it is cold (1100-ish RPM) but once it warms up it goes back to the 750 RPM or so it was before the kit.

Under about 2 grand the engine feels exactly the same as it did before. From 2,000 to 3,200 RPM you can feel a little kick and hear the turbo spool a bit. From 3,200 on its a frickin' rocket. The turbo sounds like 20 vacuum cleaners under my feet.

Garm, I would be honored to send you the Chinotake. :laugh:

[PETERPOOP]

I believe 750 is above stock idle at a warm idle.

[ChinoCharles]

Only a hair if at all. Stock was what, 700?

[PETERPOOP]

idk, I remember reading somewhere it's 550-650 or something like that (no a/c). Don't quote me on that.

[ChinoCharles]

I'm going by what I saw on my tach. Can someone else confirm or deny?

[LtNoogie]

It's different for the MT and AT. It's listed in the service manual.

[ChinoCharles]

Good deal, I'll have to check later. I'm curious now.

[LtNoogie]

This is all I found so far for the automatic.

Engine idle speed, (A/C OFF) N position, 650 to 750 rpm

[AlexNet0]

warmed up (mind you this is no boost at all) my mostly stock 07 MT LB idles between 500 and 650

[ChinoCharles]

OK, so I'm a little high. Makes sense when you consider the larger injectors and colder plugs, no?

By the way, second tank was 34.1 MPG on Shell 93.

[LtNoogie]

From the Engine Mechanical section of the 2007 repair manual

(5) Inspect the engine idling speed.
Idling speed:
550 to 650 rpm for manual transaxle
650 to 750 rpm for automatic transaxle

NOTICE:
• Turn all the electrical systems and the A/C off.
• Inspect the idling speed with the cooling fan off.
• When checking the idling speed, shift the transmission to either the neutral
position or the parking position.

[ChinoCharles]

OK, I'll get an exact reading on idle on my way home from the game.

[PETERPOOP]

Thanks NOOOOOOG.

[LtNoogie]

I was going to ask... you're posting on YW while your're at a game? Boy, you are dedicated.

[AlexNet0]

lol he got a spam removal request while there as well, well, either him or etimago

[ChinoCharles]

Haha, I'm blogging too. Multitasking.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

Micro Image stickers? :laugh:

naw that only puts $$$'s in your pocket......

[CASTREX]

15.8 with a 2.4 60ft

14.9 -15.0 my prediction for your first time, after a few runs.


Perhaps you can get it to mid to low 14's but with some tires and a little practice.... oh!! and a new tune!:biggrin:


13.9 is a bit on the optimistic side I think.... but we will see!!!


You should give the Chinotake to the one that gets closer to your lowest time! :thumbup:

[mikenacarato]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlm9EX7u40

[HTM Yaris]

Dude , powdercoat the axle back part black . Be a little stealthy....ish .

Sounds Good
:cool:
:headbang:

[mikenacarato]

im not sure chino will see your post but i will relay it to him. i cant believe some assclown told him he needed to earn his respect here. that person knows who they are...and needs to fu** off permanently.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

im not sure chino will see your post but i will relay it to him. i cant believe some assclown told him he needed to earn his respect here. that person knows who they are...and needs to fu** off permanently.

?? wtf?

[Gideon]

Yay, he's back!

Now, post that Greddy map. :wink:

[ChinoCharles]

Track first! Saturday during the day @ http://www.dragway42.com. I think my local car club rented the sucker out. Should be awesome. All sorts of cool cars... 7MGTE Toyota Cressida, 10 second Dodge Omni... us Ohio boys are strange.

[PETERPOOP]

i thought you were gone? makemorevideos

[at3GG]

yes more more more!

[Nexus1155]

I don't think a member who contributes so much to this community would ever leave.... I can't wait to see the track vids after you fixed up the boost leak... try to shakedown some quick cars ;)

[ChinoCharles]

So I'm driving today and my boost disappears. :cry:

Threading on one side of the compressor stripped out. The bolt was almost lost. Might need a new housing. Luckily its a 14b and it'll be cheap. Doubtful to make it to the track this weekend though. :mad: I can't even really drive it right now... its an NA car on an FI map. Probably would foul the injectors before too long. I'll keep you guys updated.

For the record, this ZPI kit is garbage. The kit works well, but some of the hardware they chose is laughable. I may have the whole thing overhauled and retuned. Still deciding...

[m911gt]

So I'm driving today and my boost disappears. :cry:

Threading on one side of the compressor stripped out. The bolt was almost lost. Might need a new housing. Luckily its a 14b and it'll be cheap. Doubtful to make it to the track this weekend though. :mad: I can't even really drive it right now... its an NA car on an FI map. Probably would foul the injectors before too long. I'll keep you guys updated.

For the record, this ZPI kit is garbage. The kit works well, but some of the hardware they chose is laughable. I may have the whole thing overhauled and retuned. Still deciding...

sorry to hear about your spout of bad luck Charles, hopefully you will take care of this problem and it'll be smooth sailing.

[Gideon]

That blows.

Great time to upload the map though. :wink: :laugh:

[ChinoCharles]

I'm not crazy enough to have done this and expected no downtime. Its OK, it will get resolved. I'm getting a quote tomorrow.

[PetersRedYaris]

[QUOTE=ChinoCharles;297099]...For the record, this ZPI kit is garbage...QUOTE]

I was wondering how long it would take you to say that. :biggrin: At least you can upgrade it over time to a reliable system.

[ChinoCharles]

The kit isn't all bad. They used top of the line parts... HKS BOV, TiAL wastegate, 14b, E-manage blue... can't complain there. However, I will never in my life understand why you would use hex bolts on a turbo kit. It is baffling. Kenny, if you're reading this, just quit. Go deliver papers or something. You suck at this.

[cali yaris]

That blows.

Um, that's actually kind of a joke :laugh:

meanwhile how about unplugging the piggyback if you're running N/A?

[ChinoCharles]

Can I just unplug it? That certainly beats not driving it.

[cali yaris]

well... is it hardwired or did they make a nice plug 'n play harness?

if the latter you can just bypass the piggyback and try it.

[PETERPOOP]

E-manage blue.

Actually the blue isn't something people suggest to use...

[33OH]

Sucks Charles. :cry: Maybe you should stop ragging on me to get my kit painted. Karma. :laugh:

Maybe next track day I can actually make it now!

[ChinoCharles]

Well, we still might fix it tonight and go tomorrow. Not sure yet...

Ryan, paint your kit.

[33OH]

Ryan, paint your kit.

It is painted. Just not the same color. :wink:

[KCALB SIRAY]

http://www.freewebs.com/votecartman/Kenny%20dead.gif

[at3GG]

damn, best of luck getting it fixed ASAP

[dallas]

I second that a second time, re-paint to match body color ASAP, LOL.

P.S Chino Charles keep us posted if you get her up and running, our thoughts are with you.

Well, we still might fix it tonight and go tomorrow. Not sure yet...

Ryan, paint your kit.

[ChinoCharles]

Car is in the shop getting fixed. Pick it up @ 2 pm. We just studded the housing. No biggy.

After that, time for a wash! Pics later maybe?

[at3GG]

ah good....didnt cost you and arm and a leg did it?

[ChinoCharles]

Nah, but I'm definitely tapped for the month. :laugh:

The Yaris is always for sale guys. :smile:

[ChinoCharles]

OK, just got back. Car is running MUCH better. Problem solved.

[at3GG]

good to hear....now more videos !!

[ChinoCharles]

LOL, I'll take one on the way to the Indians game tonight.

[at3GG]

:thumbup:

[ChinoCharles]

Turbee is runnin' STROOOONG.

Left at 6:30 and the sun was right in our faces so the vid didn't come out. Sorry guys!

[scape]

this thread is making me pensive! i want to see some track time, haha! ;d
kudos on the turbo, sounds like the kit is working out well

[cali yaris]

Left at 6:30 and the sun was right in our faces so the vid didn't come out. Sorry guys!

This is now three DAYS ago -- you're slacking, and we're waiting. :smile:

[33OH]

Charles, early July we're having a track day at Midvale Speedway. Time attack and drifting. You should come down. =)

[ChinoCharles]

I'm there.

Strip soon!

[33OH]

Text me when you're thinking about the strip. I'd like to go if I can.

[Russelt3hPirate]

we putting bets down on how slow you guys run? :)

[33OH]

I'll either run 17's or high 10's, depending on the vehicle I choose to take.

[DerFlosser]

All you need now is some NOS.

[ChinoCharles]

All you need now is some NOS.

Last thing I need! :laugh:

[cali yaris]

we putting bets down on how slow you guys run? :)

no, we're betting on how fast they run.

[33OH]

no, we're betting on how fast they run.

Glass is half full kinda guy? :wink:

[Russelt3hPirate]

no, we're betting on how fast they run.

for those 15 seconds or less...:bellyroll:

[ChinoCharles]

Russel, would you like the list of cars that couldn't keep up? :laugh: It really isn't slow, I promise.